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post #61 of 182
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Originally Posted by todd_asevedo View Post

I just bought the 42PF7220A/37 at Costco and want to use the U3T but the Omnimount site says I need an adapter for all the 42PF models? Did you guys need it? The spec on the U3T says Vesa 75, 200 X 200. Is all of ours 400 X 800? Please help I want to purchase tomorrow and hang this baby...

Todd

The omnimount tiltmount U3 will fit that planel without any adapters. Call the 800 number you'll see.
post #62 of 182
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Originally Posted by timn420 View Post

I haven't seen this set at CC or BB yet. Are these out in the stores floor or just online?

My experience with BB is that this model is only available by ordering in the store or on-line. They do not have models on display for this TV. CC has no idea if they will have display model or not.

I based my decision to purchase this TV on the picture quality of the 37 inch model which IS on display at BB and CC.
post #63 of 182
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Originally Posted by todd_asevedo View Post

I just bought the 42PF7220A/37 at Costco and want to use the U3T but the Omnimount site says I need an adapter for all the 42PF models? Did you guys need it? The spec on the U3T says Vesa 75, 200 X 200. Is all of ours 400 X 800? Please help I want to purchase tomorrow and hang this baby...

Todd

Casey is right the Ominmount UT3 is the best option. It worked very well for my 42PF9730A.
post #64 of 182
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Originally Posted by jes1955 View Post

My experience with BB is that this model is only available by ordering in the store or on-line. They do not have models on display for this TV. CC has no idea if they will have display model or not.

I based my decision to purchase this TV on the picture quality of the 37 inch model which IS on display at BB and CC.

Thanks Jes, hopefully they'll get this sucker out soon.
post #65 of 182
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Sorry this took so long to post. My wife's camera was not working properly.

Here is some more info on my setup.

Wall Mount

I hung the TV using the Omnimount UT3 tilt mount. It worked very well. The TV came with adapter screws to use with a wall mount. These things would have stuck out from the TV over 2 inches! I don't see how they could support the weight of the TV. Plus they would have made it stick out from the wall another two inches. I just used a set of screws that came with the Omnimount and they worked great. The Onminount UT3 comes with an abundance of screws to fit almost any TV. The screws I used were in the packet labeled J. They fit perfectly. The mount comes with extensions that you can screw on the sides to make the mount wider for wider TV's. I only needed to use one set of extensions. I screwed them in on the left side and adjusted the centering of the mount accordingly. See pics earlier in this thread.

Wiring

1. HDMI cable from up-converter DVD player to TV.
2. Coax cable from cable outlet to TV (I have not arranged to have digital cable yet). I'm currently exploring my options set-top box, cable card, or set-top with built in DV Recorder. It may be some time until I get digital cable as we primarily bought this TV to enjoy movies.
3.Digital coax from TV to home theater system. This for using the home theater when not playing a DVD.
4.Fiber optic from DVD player to Home Theater. This is for listening to music CD's and for watching DVD's

Equipment

TV - Philips 42PF9730A
DVD Player - Sony DVPNS70H. Very good for the price. I am very happy with this.
Home Theater System - Sony HTDDW670. Very happy with this as well. However, I did have to take first one back because I couldn't get sound out of the right speaker. Exchanged for new one and it now works great.

As far as cables, I didn't use Monster (much to the dismay of the BB salesman). I used Acoustic Research cables which were less expensive. I am very satisfied with them.

See below pics.
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post #66 of 182
Jes,
Nice setup, very clean.
post #67 of 182
[color=Yellow]i just purchased this model (42PF9730A/37) from best buy on sunday. They did not have this particular model in the store nor on display. I did my research and this lcd seems to be one of the best out there for the price. I mean you cant compare this to a pioneer like the sales person in best buy was trying to do. I certainly was not gonna pay over $1000 extra for a pioneer which has detachable speakers and a all black bezel. The detachable speakers in the pioneer are cool cause most people use a home system and not the built in speakers. But anyways .. i bought the philips and it should be delivered on friday so i will keep you guys posted.
post #68 of 182
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i just purchased this model (42PF9730A/37) from best buy on sunday. They did not have this particular model in the store nor on display. I did my research and this lcd seems to be one of the best out there for the price. I mean you cant compare this to a pioneer like the sales person in best buy was trying to do. I certainly was not gonna pay over $1000 extra for a pioneer which has detachable speakers and a all black bezel. The detachable speakers in the pioneer are cool cause most people use a home system and not the built in speakers. But anyways .. i bought the philips and it should be delivered on friday so i will keep you guys posted.

I think youwill be pleased. I am very satisfied with mine so far. Had it for about three weeks. The only complaint (which is minor) is that there is no volume bar when you adjust the volume. For some reason, I like to see a volume bar when I am adjusting it.
post #69 of 182
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As stated before, I am still in the process of researching options for HD cable, so we've only been watching DVD's. We only had time to watch a couple so far. I've discovered that if you get a DVD that says it has "anamorphic widescreen" you don't have any black bars when viewing in widescreen mode. It utilizes the whole screen and looks great. I hope this becomes a standard on more DVD's. Just thought I'd pass this along.
post #70 of 182
I am looking to purchase my first Flant Panel TV and was looking into the 42PF9830A/37 , is there a major difference between that and the 42PF9730A/37. The only difference I see on Phillips site is a Bypacked motorized swivelstand and Ambilight 2 channel ON THE 830A, does this make the 830a much better??

Thank you
Gordon
post #71 of 182
I am pleased to report that I now have a new order for this TV at the same price that my first order was for. My seller is out of stock but has been advised that its supplier will have them in by mid-December. jes1955 has a beautiful setup. I am sure that I will be driven crazy by the wait but it will be worth it. I plan to buy the same Sony DVD player as jes1955 and use the HDMI connection to the TV. jes1955, have you had any copy protection issues with the DVD's you have watched using the HDMI connection? What I would really prefer is to get a DVD recorder/VHS unit with upconversion via HDMI for both sources. Samsung has one but I have read that some have had issues with copy protection and the VHS side of that unit. The idea really appeals to me as with that I would only have 4 wires hooked to the TV. 1 is power, 2 is the HDMI for the DVD and VCR, 3 is the cable wire, and 4 is the digital out line from the TV to the receiver. Until a better unit than the Samsung comes out, I will simply buy the Sony DVD player with upconversion that jes1955 is using and then move it to the TV in my game room or bedroom when the better unit is available. By then I should have an LCD in one or both of those locations with HDMI input and CableCard slot, just like this Philips that I should have before Christmas.
post #72 of 182
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Originally Posted by Hardhawk View Post

jes1955, have you had any copy protection issues with the DVD's you have watched using the HDMI connection?

I'm glad to say that I have not had any copy protection issues. Before buying the TV I read a techno-bable blurb in the owners manual mentioning about the possibility of this and I was worried. However, I've watched both newly released and fairly old DVD's and have not had any trouble with this. So far so good. Glad to hear that things are starting to work out for you in getting your TV from the on-line source.
post #73 of 182
Jess 1955,

I will be getting the Sony DVP NS90V(upconverts to 720p or 1080I) shortly how do you like your player?I'll be using the HDMI to HDMI connection to my 9630a. From what I have read these players have some great picture quality and donot suffer from the macroblocking issues of players using other chipsets.
post #74 of 182
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Originally Posted by Casey Jones View Post

Jess 1955,

I will be getting the Sony DVP NS90V(upconverts to 720p or 1080I) shortly how do you like your player?I'll be using the HDMI to HDMI connection to my 9630a. From what I have read these players have some great picture quality and donot suffer from the macroblocking issues of players using other chipsets.

Casey,

I'm very satisfied with the player. Movies look great. No motion blur or macroblocking that I've noticed. The DVD player is currently outputing 1080i. I'm thinking of changing it to 720p (the native resolution of the TV) to see if this looks even better. I might have time tomorrow to try this.
post #75 of 182
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I changed the output of the DVD player to 720p. I really couldn't see any difference in the picture quality. I didn't have time to watch it very long though. My thinking is that if I set the DVD player to 720p rather than 1080i, the DVD player has to do less processing to "upconvert" and the TV (which is native 720p) would have to do no "downconverting". So, all around there is less processing. Anybody know more about this?
post #76 of 182
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Originally Posted by jes1955 View Post

Casey,

I'm very satisfied with the player. Movies look great. No motion blur or macroblocking that I've noticed. The DVD player is currently outputing 1080i. I'm thinking of changing it to 720p (the native resolution of the TV) to see if this looks even better. I might have time tomorrow to try this.


Thanks for the info
post #77 of 182
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Originally Posted by jes1955 View Post

I changed the output of the DVD player to 720p. I really couldn't see any difference in the picture quality. I didn't have time to watch it very long though. My thinking is that if I set the DVD player to 720p rather than 1080i, the DVD player has to do less processing to "upconvert" and the TV (which is native 720p) would have to do no "downconverting". So, all around there is less processing. Anybody know more about this?


I've been doing alot of reading in the DVD players section of the forum. It seems the conventional wisdom is as you said less processing of the signal is best. However having said that it seems that most people are setting the units at 1080i while the remainder are using 720P. I think this may be both a visual preference as well as how the unit displays on screens , projection TV, LCD and of course Plasma displays. I guess in the final analysis it what looks best to you that counts.
post #78 of 182
Even if you set the resolution to 1080i or 720p on your DVD player, the TV will still do some upscaling. Only because the native resolution for this TV is 768P (1366X768). I beleive the TV's internal processor would have to upscale to 768P to fill the screen. Only a few 27" LCDTV's have native 720P (1280X720) resolution.

This is a moot point since most manufacturers have adequate internal scalers that the difference would be minimal, hence why you see no difference in changing between 1080i or 720p resolutions on the dvd player. The real magic on upconverting dvd players is the Digital video outputs (HDMI/DVI). No digital to analog conversions that usually softens the picture.
post #79 of 182
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Originally Posted by Audball View Post

Even if you set the resolution to 1080i or 720p on your DVD player, the TV will still do some upscaling. Only because the native resolution for this TV is 768P (1366X768). I beleive the TV's internal processor would have to upscale to 768P to fill the screen. Only a few 27" LCDTV's have native 720P (1280X720) resolution.

This is a moot point since most manufacturers have adequate internal scalers that the difference would be minimal, hence why you see no difference in changing between 1080i or 720p resolutions on the dvd player. The real magic on upconverting dvd players is the Digital video outputs (HDMI/DVI). No digital to analog conversions that usually softens the picture.

Thanks for the info. I had forgotten that the native resolution of this TV is 768p. Your right about the HDMI. The picture really looks good through the HDMI.
post #80 of 182
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Originally Posted by jes1955 View Post

I think youwill be pleased. I am very satisfied with mine so far. Had it for about three weeks. The only complaint (which is minor) is that there is no volume bar when you adjust the volume. For some reason, I like to see a volume bar when I am adjusting it.

there is a volume bar if you want it. HIT MENU ON REMOTE --> GO TO SETTINGS --> GO TO PREFERENCES -->GO TO MENU PREFERENCES --> CLICK OSD --> THEN CHANGE IT TO NORMAL INSTEAD OF MINIMUM.
post #81 of 182
Thanks Cygnet. I changed it to Normal and now can see the volume bar on the left side of the screen. However, the channel number stays on screen and does not go away. Is that normal?

Also, does anyone know if the INFO feature shows things like which format the OTA broadcast is in (i.e. 720p, 1080i, etc.)?
post #82 of 182
Bump!


Does anybody know if Costco will ever sell this unit?
post #83 of 182
If anyone is interested in the service manual for the:

42PF7320A/37
42PF9630A/37
42PF9730A/37
50PF7320A/37
50PF9630A/37

Please PM me and I will send you the link.
post #84 of 182
Since my last post, I have upgraded from the 37" Philips to the 42" version being discussed within this thread. I love this television!
post #85 of 182
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Thanks Cygnet. I changed it to Normal and now can see the volume bar on the left side of the screen. However, the channel number stays on screen and does not go away. Is that normal?

The channel number should go away in ten minutes.At least with the plasma version it does.Still annoying.Maybe they could fix it with a firmware update?
post #86 of 182
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Originally Posted by Bavarian_Bully View Post

Bump!


Does anybody know if Costco will ever sell this unit?

I sure hope so. That's what I'm wating for too.

A few months ago they had last years 42" model for $3000. I am hoping they will carry this year's model for even less.
post #87 of 182
Listen folks...don't do it. I bought the Phillips 42PF 9730a/37 LCD from Best B.
Since my purchase Oct. 15 05 I've had 3 of these TV's. I found out this morning I'm about to have my 4th one in 3 months.........yes..........you heard me my 4 one in 3 months.

First TV: Developed line in middle of screen..........ghost (October 2005)
Second TV: HDMI port #2 wouldn't except 480i signal but HDMI 1 could (November) 2005
Third TV: Unit goes off and on (resets itself) sporatically. Now I know what your thinking TOO HOT I live in a ski resort and keep my living room at 63 degrees NOT HOT! I turned the TV on early this morning and in 45 min TV reset itself 5 times. Talked with Phillips and they said "yep its your power supply" after an hour on the phone they finally admitted that they have seen "more bad power supplies than we would like".
Please people.............don't end up like me..........stay away from this TV!
If you want the major details on any particular problem just ask.............I've done hours of research both with phillips and BB.
post #88 of 182
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Originally Posted by Scottsfire View Post

Listen folks...don't do it. I bought the Phillips 42PF 9730a/37 LCD from Best B.
Since my purchase Oct. 15 05 I've had 3 of these TV's. I found out this morning I'm about to have my 4th one in 3 months.........yes..........you heard me my 4 one in 3 months.

First TV: Developed line in middle of screen..........ghost (October 2005)
Second TV: HDMI port #2 wouldn't except 480i signal but HDMI 1 could (November) 2005
Third TV: Unit goes off and on (resets itself) sporatically. Now I know what your thinking TOO HOT I live in a ski resort and keep my living room at 63 degrees NOT HOT! I turned the TV on early this morning and in 45 min TV reset itself 5 times. Talked with Phillips and they said "yep its your power supply" after an hour on the phone they finally admitted that they have seen "more bad power supplies than we would like".
Please people.............don't end up like me..........stay away from this TV!
If you want the major details on any particular problem just ask.............I've done hours of research both with phillips and BB.

I've had two Philips units, and haven't experienced any of the problems that you have. Sorry that your experience left more to be desired.
post #89 of 182
Thread Starter 
Scottsfire,

Its really too bad that you've had all of these problems. I've had mine for nearly three months and love it. Mine did power off and on one time, but I was running a space heater and I think that the power fluctuation caused this. The TV supposedly has built in protection that it shuts itself off when voltage fluctuates too much.

If I had your problems, I'd be skeptical of Phillips too. So far I've been very pleased.
post #90 of 182
My TV arrived yesterday! I was able to use the Smart Mount SF660P-S with this unit for a flush non-tilting mount to the wall. The TV looks great so far and I was able to watch the Rose Bowl in Hi-Def last night. WOW! The strange thing about the Hi-Def with this TV is that I don't have to install a CableCard to get the Hi-Def stations. SInce it has both digital and analog tuners, the auto search mode picks up all the channels except for the pay per view and premium movie channels such as HBO, etc. So, I can get the Hi-Def channels without having to pay for any additional services or the cable card or a set top box.

I went ahead and tried the Samsung DVD/DVD recorder/VHS unit that has the HDMI connection and upconversion. It works fine with only the HDMI wire connected to the TV when playing a DVD or using the built in tuner. I have not tried a VHS tape yet. I do have a thin green vertical line on the far right side of the TV display when using the Samsung but imagine that I can adjust that away once I have a chance to read up on all of the adjustments between the TV and the DVD/VCR unit.

So far I am very pleased with the TV and can hardly wait to have the time over the weekend to get all the settings and adjustments made. I saved a lot of money going with this set compared to many others and cannot imagine that the other brands are worth the price premium they charge.
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