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post #211 of 2774
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Originally Posted by smack518 View Post

If this is off-topic, apologies and feel free to delete, but correct me if I'm wrong, I believe the concensus was that if I'm only needing an 4-8ft cord, there's no need for me to buy a $100+ hdmi cable, that a $20-ish hdmi cable would be just as good, as its digital to digital? Obviously I'm currently using component.


(I would prefer a black screen to all that crazyness that happens now as I switch formats... all those line hurt my eyes)

http://svideo.com/hdmicable.html

Unless you're going some insane distance or need some crazy shielding, these will do you just fine. It doesn't take much for a cable to transfer 0s and 1s.
post #212 of 2774
For those wondering which 50 inch RPTV to purchase, Consumer Reports finally got around to testing the A-10, and placed the updated tests on their website. The 50 inch A-10 is rated # 2, out of 25 tested sets of various large sizes, and is a 'quick pick'. ( The obscure Sharp 56DR650 DLP was rated first, and essentially equal to the Sony. CU does warn buyers about the rainbow effect on DLP though) The A-10 outgunned all the Samsung's and 'was among the best HD performance in a rear projection TV.' It had an 'excellent' HD picture (only 3 of the 25 sets rated that high), and was 'very good' on DVD's, and 'good' on regular TV. This was quite an improvement over the lukewarm reviews of the GWIII, and IV that Consumer Reports gave in the past. The outgoing Sony KDF-50WE655 is rated 21st out of the 25 micro-display sets tested. The A-10 was also rated higher than an additional 6 CRT-type RPTV's tested. I suspected that the A-10 would do a lot better than the older Sony's, since I too am much more impressed with mine than I ever was with my GWIII
post #213 of 2774
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Originally Posted by smack518 View Post

If this is off-topic, apologies and feel free to delete, but correct me if I'm wrong, I believe the concensus was that if I'm only needing an 4-8ft cord, there's no need for me to buy a $100+ hdmi cable, that a $20-ish hdmi cable would be just as good, as its digital to digital? Obviously I'm currently using component.


(I would prefer a black screen to all that crazyness that happens now as I switch formats... all those line hurt my eyes)

DON"T buy a HDMI cable at Best Buy. Absolute rip off. Radio Shack had 6ft ones on clearance for $12.49 last month, but every store is sold out.

I went to Monoprice.com, got a 10ft HDMI to HDMI for $13 total (S&H included), took 3 days to get, no complaints. I have not seen any good prices at retail stores, so I went the online route.

I think the general consensus if that you don't need anything "special" in a HDMI cable UNLESS you are going over 25 ft, so no need to worry.
post #214 of 2774
I just purchased the Sony 50A10, everything is great with the tv, great picture, great design, no noticeable screen door effect at 9 ft back , but one thing I do see is near the middle of the tv is a type of glare or silk look, very noticeable on white's or people's skin. What is this? Is there a setting that can tone this down?
post #215 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Thrill View Post

I just purchased the Sony 50A10, everything is great with the tv, great picture, great design, no noticeable screen door effect at 9 ft back , but one thing I do see is near the middle of the tv is a type of glare or silk look, very noticeable on white's or people's skin. What is this? Is there a setting that can tone this down?

I know what you mean, I only have this when the screen is black. Seems to be more an issue of light bouncing off the screen from others sources, since when I move around the room, it comes and goes depending on how I'm looking at the TV.

But when a regular picture is on the screen I don't notice anythnig.
post #216 of 2774
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Originally Posted by KevinXbox360 View Post

I know what you mean, I only have this when the screen is black. Seems to be more an issue of light bouncing off the screen from others sources, since when I move around the room, it comes and goes depending on how I'm looking at the TV.

But when a regular picture is on the screen I don't notice anythnig.

I've noticed it as well but have pretty much trained myself to ignore it (most of the time).
post #217 of 2774
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Originally Posted by aronparsons View Post

I've noticed it as well but have pretty much trained myself to ignore it (most of the time).

Same with me, but I only notice it when I'm looking down-ish at the TV, which already presents other problems.
post #218 of 2774
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Thrill View Post

I just purchased the Sony 50A10, everything is great with the tv, great picture, great design, no noticeable screen door effect at 9 ft back , but one thing I do see is near the middle of the tv is a type of glare or silk look, very noticeable on white's or people's skin. What is this? Is there a setting that can tone this down?

I have needed to control the room lighting to avoid this. The antireflective screen is not perfect; instead of eliminating reflections it seems to leave a reduced but visible hazy glare.
post #219 of 2774
Hi all,

I just got a 50" A10 and LOVE it. No regrets. I want to thank Dark Rain on his settings, their very good. The one change I've made is to bump the brightness up one or two notches.

Question: I've found gaming settings for this set few and far between. Does anyone have any good recommendations for this? Also, I assume that the red push fix applies to all inputs, correct? Or do I have to redo it for my gaming input?
post #220 of 2774
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Originally Posted by travis33 View Post

Question: I've found gaming settings for this set few and far between. Does anyone have any good recommendations for this? Also, I assume that the red push fix applies to all inputs, correct? Or do I have to redo it for my gaming input?

It applies to some inputs, but not all. In my case I had to do it once for HD (OTA) and once for SD, plus one more for the HDMI input. You should check all your inputs one by one.
post #221 of 2774
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

For those wondering which 50 inch RPTV to purchase, Consumer Reports finally got around to testing the A-10, and placed the updated tests on their website. The 50 inch A-10 is rated # 2, out of 25 tested sets of various large sizes, and is a 'quick pick'. ( The obscure Sharp 56DR650 DLP was rated first, and essentially equal to the Sony. CU does warn buyers about the rainbow effect on DLP though) The A-10 outgunned all the Samsung's and 'was among the best HD performance in a rear projection TV.' It had an 'excellent' HD picture (only 3 of the 25 sets rated that high), and was 'very good' on DVD's, and 'good' on regular TV. This was quite an improvement over the lukewarm reviews of the GWIII, and IV that Consumer Reports gave in the past. The outgoing Sony KDF-50WE655 is rated 21st out of the 25 micro-display sets tested. The A-10 was also rated higher than an additional 6 CRT-type RPTV's tested. I suspected that the A-10 would do a lot better than the older Sony's, since I too am much more impressed with mine than I ever was with my GWIII


Ouy... thanks for the great summary.
post #222 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Rico66 View Post

It applies to some inputs, but not all. In my case I had to do it once for HD (OTA) and once for SD, plus one more for the HDMI input. You should check all your inputs one by one.

Which red push setting did you end up using?
post #223 of 2774
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

Which red push setting did you end up using?

I'm currently on 0002. The red for 0005 didn't look much different to me than the original setting (3c). The draw back is the mentioned greenish/yellowish skin tone in dark scenes. So I might change it again at some stage

BTW, does anybody know why the original settings differ between HD (46) and SD (3C)?
post #224 of 2774
I am going to have to play with a few of these different setups to find the one I like the most. Can't wait til I get my A10!!!
post #225 of 2774
I checked other inputs besides my cable box and none of them haad the red push fix. Also, I had to do the fix in SD AND HD through the HDMI.
post #226 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Rico66 View Post

I'm currently on 0002. The red for 0005 didn't look much different to me than the original setting (3c). The draw back is the mentioned greenish/yellowish skin tone in dark scenes. So I might change it again at some stage

BTW, does anybody know why the original settings differ between HD (46) and SD (3C)?

I tried 0002 for a couple weeks, and changed it back to 003b last night. I think 003b may be a tiny bit better than 0005, but I am not really sure. You have to scroll through so many settings between them, that a direct comparison is impossible. I was more bothered by the yellowish/greenish skin tones that showed up too often on 0002, than I am by the moderate red push on 0005, or 003b. I think some red push is 'insurance' against green faces on some program material. I bet if we could get a good grey scale calibration, 0002 might work better.
post #227 of 2774
Would anyone have some setting advice for my set-up:

42a10
D* HD using the RCA DTC210
DVI to HDMI cable
My OTA goes thru the DTC210
seating distance 9 feet


I'm still getting a grainy picture with a lot of motion blurring on HD.
Also, are there any enhancements that I need to disable that may be causing the terrible SD
I tried component cables from the STB and the picture was alot worse!
thanks

thanks
dave
post #228 of 2774
Have you calibrated your display? I used Avia on my neighbor's new 42" A10 and he couldn't believe it was the same tv. BTW, I also reduced red push successfully using the CHAXIS adjustment in the service menu. It's a nice tv at an attractive price.
post #229 of 2774
Also try running your coax from your OTA directly to the UHF/VHF connection, do an autoprogram and see if PQ improves. But if you haven't calibrated to standardized video test patterns such as found on Avia, DVE and others - you're just wasting time. THX Optimizer will work in a pinch (it's found on some DVD's). I prefer not to use it though because there is variation between DVD's.
post #230 of 2774
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by recoil55 View Post

Would anyone have some setting advice for my set-up:

42a10
D* HD using the RCA DTC210
DVI to HDMI cable
My OTA goes thru the DTC210
seating distance 9 feet


I'm still getting a grainy picture with a lot of motion blurring on HD.
Also, are there any enhancements that I need to disable that may be causing the terrible SD
I tried component cables from the STB and the picture was alot worse!
thanks

thanks
dave

Your problems may mostly be due to crappy pictures at the D* source. If you have any nearby over the air HD stations try a small antenna like a zenith silver sensor and compare the picture quality. You should also calibrate the display.
post #231 of 2774
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Originally Posted by deconvolver View Post

Your problems may mostly be due to crappy pictures at the D* source. If you have any nearby over the air HD stations try a small antenna like a zenith silver sensor and compare the picture quality. You should also calibrate the display.

He did mention that he already had an antenna and the coax from it was connected to his STB.
post #232 of 2774
I have had my set for about a week:

* A10 with Comcast Digital/HD Cable.
* Component Hook-ups from STB to TV

SD Questions:
* Is it normal for some standard digital channels to be grainy?
* Some standard digital channels are OK, but others really bad/grainy.
* Is it normal for some SDC in full mode to look stretched.
* Is it normal for the TV to auto-jump its size during a commerical and back. Sometimes I'll get three or four different modes during commercials.

HD:
* Is it normal for some HD channels to look amazing and others almost like SDC.
* Why are some HD channels full mode different than others
* Example: ESPN HD normal mode shows the black bars on left and right.
* There seems to be no consistency from any channels. You never know what mode (i.e full vs wide zoom etc) you will get.
* Example: My local HD channels look like crap

Sorry for so many questions but I just wish there was one or two simple things to do for decent pics all around.

Thank you.
post #233 of 2774
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bostongmw View Post

I have had my set for about a week:

* A10 with Comcast Digital/HD Cable.
* Component Hook-ups from STB to TV

SD Questions:
* Is it normal for some standard digital channels to be grainy?
* Some standard digital channels are OK, but others really bad/grainy.
* Is it normal for some SDC in full mode to look stretched.
* Is it normal for the TV to auto-jump its size during a commerical and back. Sometimes I'll get three or four different modes during commercials.

HD:
* Is it normal for some HD channels to look amazing and others almost like SDC.
* Why are some HD channels full mode different than others
* Example: ESPN HD normal mode shows the black bars on left and right.
* There seems to be no consistency from any channels. You never know what mode (i.e full vs wide zoom etc) you will get.
* Example: My local HD channels look like crap

Sorry for so many questions but I just wish there was one or two simple things to do for decent pics all around.

Thank you.

These do sound like typical source quality problems. I thought that Boston over the air stations had good quality during HD shows (prime time dramas and football etc) though. It is possible that Comcast could be compressing the signal; you should ask about each issue in your local thread in the local HD forum.

Some SD looks awful because the station seems to be using equipment with only about VHS tape quality signals. Other SD stations can be as good as a 3x4 DVD picture.
HD stations don't always broadcast HD. When they broadcast SD they usually have the pillar bars but one of my local CT stations (WTIC) stretches the SD to 16x9.
post #234 of 2774
Well I took some of the excellent above advice and ordered the Avia disk which should arrive in a few days.
I realize that this is a DVD and will calibrate my input that I have my DVD player connected to, but how will it calibrate my input #6 connected to my D* via HDMI since my DVD player has component hookup only.

thanks
dave
post #235 of 2774
Hi,

I have 50A10. My HD Cable box is hooked to the TV via component cable. When I'm watching any HD program through my cable box, the PQ is much much better if I select coax cable input. When I select the component input, the picture looks like it's been put through some sort of a yellow filter. All colors are not live. I know I'm doing something terribly wrong since it's not possible that HD picture would be so much worse than SD. I did tweak settings in Wega Gate for both cable and component inputs, but then I re-set the component input and it made no difference. When I watch DVD also through component(different input though), the colors are great. It's just a little frustrating since one of the reasons I bought the HD TV was because I wanted to enjoy HD programs over the cable and I cannot do that now.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-TS.a
post #236 of 2774
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Originally Posted by TonySh View Post

Hi,

I have 50A10. My HD Cable box is hooked to the TV via component cable. When I'm watching any HD program through my cable box, the PQ is much much better if I select coax cable input. When I select the component input, the picture looks like it's been put through some sort of a yellow filter. All colors are not live. I know I'm doing something terribly wrong since it's not possible that HD picture would be so much worse than SD. I did tweak settings in Wega Gate for both cable and component inputs, but then I re-set the component input and it made no difference. When I watch DVD also through component(different input though), the colors are great. It's just a little frustrating since one of the reasons I bought the HD TV was because I wanted to enjoy HD programs over the cable and I cannot do that now.

Is is possible that one of your three component connections has come loose? Either at the TV or the box? Someone else had this question a couple days ago (can't remember if it was on this thread or not), and it was simply a loose connection.
post #237 of 2774
Thanks, I'll check it out when I get home. It's always possible I suppose.
post #238 of 2774
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by recoil55 View Post

Well I took some of the excellent above advice and ordered the Avia disk which should arrive in a few days.
I realize that this is a DVD and will calibrate my input that I have my DVD player connected to, but how will it calibrate my input #6 connected to my D* via HDMI since my DVD player has component hookup only.

thanks
dave

It won't calibrate the HD input but it will give you a starting point for the HD input settings for the type of picture that you like. For the HD input you will need to tune to HDnet when they put their calibration pattern up. There should be info about HDnet's pattern in the calibration forum (and on cheezmo's site I think).
post #239 of 2774
What I did on my neighbor's tv was calibrate the HDMI input with Avia using my DVD player. I made note of the final settings and manually adjusted to those settings on the other inputs.
post #240 of 2774
Hay, first post. Been lurking a while.

Just wanted to say thanks for the info. I bought a KDF-E50A10 yesterday. The SM fix for red push has made a heck of a difference. Used 0002 and don't see any green cast at all. Looks great!

Anyways, cheers all!



Edit> P.S. What the heck does the "high altitude" function do?
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