Grand Wega V Tweeks - Page 11

None. But this is one of the biggest gripes I have with the A10. It's really hard to get good blacks and shadow detail without making the screen dimmer. You just have to strike a good balance and be done with it. It's better than driving yourself mad over it since this technology is still limited in what it can deliver in contrast ratio.

Yeah. The great thing about my settings right now are, it doesn't look dim. The white level is up pretty high so it's still got a nice bright picture, the black level is set the way it's supposed to be (somebody may prefer it to be up one more notch or whatever), and the colors look pretty vivid as well. Since the advanced Iris is off, you don't get these bright whites in darker scenes to look well, less than white. The blacks look really good and in the darker areas with detail you may lose a little more than you would like, but as you said, it's all about finding a nice happy medium that you may find acceptable. But, even though you may be missing out on a little, it's still not anywhere near as bad as what the black level correction feature will get you. I suggest anyone who's picky about having great looking whites and good looking black levels, to try my settings. Just adjust your picture and brightness a couple notches if need be. But so far after watching some scenes from King Of The Hill, War Of The Worlds, Friends, and The Polar Express... I'm happy with it.

[quote=Dark Rain]I will post my settings for each input I'm using on my Sony 42A10 as I've gotten several PMs asking for it. We should probably keep bumping this thread to keep it active for a awhile.

These settings are for low/mid-level lighting for day and night viewing. All settings listed are CUSTOM with the exception of SD digital cable. These settings give a more "flat" look since my lighting conditons do not change very much. I don't like overly contrasted/saturated whites or colors. Fine detail is lost and it causes eye strain which makes viewing the TV less enjoyable.

Viewing distance from my 42A10 is around 8 feet.

*Please note the Color setting differences between the red push fix and out of the box color decoder settings. See the first post in this thread on directions to fix the red push.

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SD analog cable using the A10's RF coax input:

*Calibrated by eye
*I don't use my Motorola 6412 cable box for analog channels because of the poor PQ

Iris - 1 or 2 depending on room lighting
Picture - 60
Brightness - 48
Color - 33 (CH-AXIS1 0002 red push fix - 40)
Hue - 0
Color Temp - Neutral
Sharpness - 30
Noise Reduction - Off
DRC Mode - High Density
DRC Palette -
Reality 65
Clarity 63
Black Corrector - Off
Advanced Iris - Low
Gamma - Low
Clear White - Off
Live Color - Off

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I can't seem to get into the DRC palette. I tried all three of the vivid,standard and custom. How can i get in. I have the 50" A10.

You need to keep scrolling down the Settings menu until you see it (it's right after Noise Reduction). It only works with SD sources like cable and non-progressive DVD players. It will be shaded gray for HD and progressive DVD players using progressive scan.

I've found that in this setting, yellows don't look right. They tend to look greenish, sort of that glow in the dark greenish color.
I was watching Monday Night football, and the Packers yellow helmets had that green tint.

On the other hand, there is something unnatural about watching SD with the setting at 046.. bright reds and oranges glow... but I feel it looks OK in HD..

Maybe I'll try 0002 or 0005 and warm the colors a bit..

003c isn't quite the same.. but is close to 0046, the Yellows don't look at yellow, and oranges aren't as orange.. greens also look a bit different.. at least to my eye.

Many of the settings.. most of them.. appear very similar to the eye... 003b lookd similat to 0045 and 0044 for example. It's really hard to judge the colors without a test pattern though....

As already stated, 003c is the same thing as 0046. Dark Rain covered that. But try 0005. It looks decent enough to me.

Just have to say, that I've been watching TV shows and a couple of movies on my set and I'm completely happy with the automatic Iris off, the Iris all the way down, my Brightness at like 46, and my picture at about 80, with neutral color temp and a low gamma. I'm finally completely satisfied.

Settings Update...

In the first setting under CRT.. the default was 0002... but somehow it was 0000. I changed this back to 0002, and now the CHAXIS_1 at 0002 looks good.
However... to make it look right.. I had to raise the color and set the color temp to warm.. I actually chose warm2.

For me, this eliminated the red bush, but the warm cast moved the yellows to where they were supposed to be. I was very happy with this setting.



- Set the color to "warm"
- Raise the color about 7 notches

Hi,

I just receive my DVE DVD and last night I try it a little bit to see how it works. One thing that since the beginning with this TV always give me trouble is the white adjustment with the picture control. On my old TV, when I adjust the white with the pattern in the THX Optimizer or with the chapter 18 of Star Wars II, I was able to find the right spot but with this tv I can't. For low light I set the Iris to low or 1 and if I use the pattern for white, I can put the picture setting to the max and it's not enough to reach the good setting. So how have you set the picture setting. Even with the Iris at max I can put the picture setting near the max. I also notice that may be the problem is with the advance iris on low, I think that if I put the advance Iris to Off I will have better succes with the picture setting. So how do you set the picture setting?

Thanks
Kafou

Well LCD's can handle a higher contrast than most other TV's, so if you set your picture all the way up, you'll still be able to distinguish all the different variations of white most likely. So really, you just need to find a setting in picture that's still white enough for you without burning your eyes out of your skull.

Added this today for those needing more of an explanation on fixing the red push and what settings to use. Feel free to correct any errors that I may have made:

Update settings for red push fix 11/25/05 -

CH_AXIS1 0002 - most neutral setting but yellow may look a bit green; some green pull. Use Warm 1 or 2 color temp and more color to fix if needed. Thanks go to Akysten for the tip.

CH_AXIS1 0005 - similar to CH_AXIS1 003b with slight red push.

CH_AXIS1 003b - slight red push but color rendering closer to default setting of 003c without the "poppy-looking" reds. Probably the best overall setting.

CH_AXIS1 003c - default color decoding with heavy red push. Turning color down to 38 on most sources will give more natural looking reds at the expense of desaturated colors. Use the red push fix to get the best color rendering so you can get full color saturation.

I went back to using 003b (thanks AlanBuck for checking it with AVIA) for now. IMO, it does appear to render colors better than 0002.

I'd also like thank others that have contributed to this thread. It's been helpful to me and everyone else. Keep up the good work!

Hi DarkRain,

just wondering if ur settings are suitable for the 50" version of the 3lcd sony wega rear projection?

cheers

Thank's for this answer. That was also my impression that it is something wrong with this test for this TV because with so high setting I was unable to watch I hockey game. So I will adjust it to be the most white without burning my eyes.

Kafou

Use the same settings for the 42" and 50" tv's.

So here's a question, is 0005 and 003b the same exact setting?

no

Woohoo my new 50" baby arrives next week. Thanks for this great info guys.

hey can someone hook me up real quick?

After seeing dark rains suggestion of 003b I decided to go back into the service menu and change it from 0002 to 003b.

When I pressed 2 eight times I got to

CST 08 Service
CH_ITU_MODE1 00 0002 BE Micro

Hmmmm...I think when I went in the first time I may have accidentally set the CH_ITU_MODE1 to 0002 instead of the Chaxis.

So can anyone go into the service menu and tell me what their CH_ITU_MODE1 setting is?

My CHAXIS is now 003b. But the CH_ITU_MODE1 is 0002.

That may be what it should be and I never changed it but it seems too uncanny that the CH_ITU_MODE1 setting is the same as the CHAXIS setting I wanted to change to 0002 .

Just wanted to bump this because it's making me paranoid.

It looks like 003b is a common settings.. I don't see a difference between it and say.... 003a.... or 0045

Did you make the tweak mentioned in Post #19?

Dark Rain - Are your settings based on this being at default of 0002?

My red push Color settings, in parenthesis, can be used with either 0002 or 003b. But as was mentioned, you may want to also set the Color Temp to Warm 2 with 0002.

You could drop the Color down a notch or two with 003b using my settings since the reds still have a little "pop" to them. But I really think 003b is the setting to use as of now. The color rendering looks more accurate over 0002 to my eyes. Skin tones look more realistic as well.

Red push is eliminated with 0002, but yellow starts to look more green because of it. I was noticing some weirdness of skin tones with 0002. Some people would have a green-yellow cast while others would look yellow or yellow-orange.

what a lot of info!!!!!! first post here, thanks for the input on settings and my 42 is looking amazing!!!!!! is there a limit to how close speakers can be to this tv? i know that they cause distortion on CRTs, is that true for an RPLCD?

Sorry...I guess I wasn't clear with my question. I was referring to the first setting (referenced in post 19) and whether you had made the change from 0002 to 0000 or not.

They made a mistake in that post since all A10's have the CH_AXIS1 set at 003c or 0046 by default (unless it was tinkered with). I looked at 0000 and didn't see much of a change from 0002.

As of now I recommend everyone doing the red push fix to set it to 003b.

Deconvolver, Thanks very much.

I will double check what I have now.

Dark Rain, I made the change to 003b and things look good, although I have Colts Steelers on HD right now and the yellow does have a green tone.

Which makes it look a bit gross, to be totally non-technical with my description!

Wife is around so I can't go messing with the service menu right now without being annoying, but I am going to check 0002 and 003b with the Steelers yellow as soon as I can.

I think it's just ABCs cameras. If you notice, some weren't calibrated well before the game. The MNF letters near the bottom of the screen look okay. You could try setting your color temp to warm 1.

I watched the Packers/Eagles game yesterday on FOX HD and the Packers helmets and jerseys looked normal.

Yep, that is it exactly.

Switched over to CSI and things looked incredible. Came back to the game and noticed that it was really just the main camera shot and a few others that tinted the yellow with green. The tight camera shots look perfect.

That's the rub of all this stuff, it's only as good as the feed our TV's get.