New DVDO iScan VP30 - Page 212

Movie_fan,

My audio dropouts disappeared at 1.11 or 1.12 for the most part.

DVReid

Barry,

I love what your utility can do. On 1.12 the serial stopped working. I could not install 1.13 through your utility because it would never find the VP30 and after 1.13 installation it still would not work. If you look back in the thread the was a small conversation about this. As soon as I installed 1.14 the utility found everything just fine.

DVReid

Well, mine just got worse. Running FW 1.07 now...

Can't wait for the version that properly HDCP handshakes with a Sony PS3 doing 1080p passthrough, a device that tons of VP30 owners definitely use!

V1.13 -> 1.14 went from 1080p passthrough flickering or sometimes working with PS3, to a completely black screen.

So you're saying that with v1.14 the flickering is gone, right?



(along with the rest of the picture, apparently)

Anybody try it with another Blu-ray player like the BDP-S1 yet?

-John

Doug, Yes I now recall that. I am working on other things that have me tied up right now so my mind, what little is left of it, is somewhere else.

I got a note from Mark Strega who let me know about the changes in certain parameters H zoom, V zoom and Overscan. The ini file just needs to be changed. I think I will just let the users do it, and if they have issues they will let me know. It should not be a problem for any one competent enough to deal with a VP30 or VP50.

Would just like to chime in and mention that the VP30 can't passthrough 1080p from my HTPC, either (image OK, but constant snow and flickering).

So, for now, 1080p passthrough should be considered non-existent!

1920x1080 @ 60 hz.
It's interesting to note that using the newest Catalyst drivers, if I let the 1080p signal from my HTPC output UNDERSCANNED, there are no problems. But as soon as I set it to 0% underscan in my video card settings (so that it will fill the screen completely), the VP30 output goes bonkers. Works fine going straight to my HDTV, so I know I am dealing with a passthrough problem.

Currently, have 1.14 loaded.

Happens on both 1.13 and 1.14.

Hope to see both this and PS3 1080p passthrough working in the near future!

What version of the utility are you using? I uploaded the 1.14 sw but no luck connecting with Barry's, haven' tried the 151 version yet, but it did not work with the latest upgrade version 136, I think. I did not perform factory reset or such, did you do one?

Seems like remote response is better with this latest version.

I loaded 1.14 and now have a new HDMI/HDCP issue. If the source (say a Moto DCT5100 cable box) doesn't send an HDCP handshake, the curtain closes and no video is displayed. I tried turning off HDCP in/out but that did not help. So I can't view sources over HDMI wothout HDCP handshakes.

Hi,
did you try all the easy fixes like turning power off then on and unplugging the vp30 for a min. then plugging back in? You probably tried all these - just checking.

I tried all of the obvious restarts; I reverted to 1.11b and everything is working again. I've got an e-mail into ABT, we'll see what they say about the issue.

Would like to chime in and say that I have the same problem with 1.14. I'm going back to 1.13 now until this gets sorted out.

Ok, installed 1.14. Audio dropout situation is better, but it's still there.....

God, that looks like a tough one!

Similar issue here. Except that mine was working fine for a few months (ver 1.11) and while watching HD on a Motorolla cable box the "curtain" closed over the pic and now no pic from that source. If I remove the vp30 from the link the pic is back to my pj


John

John,

You are saying you have the issue after upgrading the FW to 1.14, correct?

Actually, you can watch your high def channels, just not the ones without HDCP (at least I can).

I am not making much progress with reporting this and getting it acknowledged as a real problem.

Mark,

I didn't upgrade because of the problems you had so I am still on 1.11. Everything was working fine but not anymore. I haven't messed with it too much so I have yet to do a factory reboot.

John

My interest in VPs have grown substantially over the last couple of months, however, I have a few questions that would help me in my decision and understanding. I have the moto 6416 hd/dvr box and have it set to 1080i for HD sources and 480i passthrough for 480i sources. My question is, if I connected a vp30 or 50 would I leave the moto box set at 1080i? I guess I'm wondering what would happen to 720p channels... is the moto upscaling and interlacing into 1080i and then would pass that to the vp30/50 for deinterlacing? I have a panasonic 50px60u (1366x768) and I'm not sure if it supports 1:1 pixel mapping (thru dvi or hdmi), is there a way to know? What would be the ideal setting at the VP level to feed to the TV?

Question about specific application, in jist of the question is, how much benefit will I get using the processors component out?

I am using a Netstreams distributed HD A/V system, Netstreams claims the unit (MLAV300) can take a HD component signal (uncompressed) and then put it back together near your TV at the other end, via the internet.

So the scenario is this:
You have 6 sources, then you put two DVDO vp-30s inline, with dual connections for all of the sources. The VP-30 can accepts component, DVI, HDMI video and digital coax, optical and HDMI audio. It has both HDMI AND a processed output to component video and coax audio.

From here, you connect a VP-30 into 1 of 2 NetSteam MLAV300 which will accept the VP-30's single component video and single audio output, 1 per TV. This will go into the network and then comes out at the TV at one of two VL100's.

The question, as stated earlier is, will there be ANY processing on a signal that comes out of the VP-30?

Thanks

I think all of my Comcast box signals are in either 480 or 1080i. I'm not sure which channels are 720p, but I believe the ones that I watch are all 1080i. The box outputs the signals in these resolutions and the VP30 upscales the standard definition stuff. My PS3 does have a number of games and trailers in 720p. Once again I let it output everything in it's native resolutions and let the DVDO/ABT102 do all the scaling. Hopefully your DVR will allow you to output 720p channels as 720p. I only watch a couple of HD channels that are 1080 native.

In general the operation of the VP line is best (IMHO and others) configured as follows:

1) Set the output section first and try to get a 1:1 pixel mapping with your display over a digital output. This can be checked for using the test patterns in the VP. Doing this implies that the display will do no scaling the assumption being that the VP does it better. If that assumption is wrong then why did you buy . . There may also be some setting on the display to force it to not perform any scaling or other picture "improvement" activities.

2) On each input source set it to put out the native resolution of the signal coming in. This in theory should stop the source device from doing any scaling on the assumption that . . . (see above). On a DVD palyer without SDI set it for interlaced output not progressive as that is what is on the DVD; unless of course the DVD player has a better de-interlacer than the vp, see above assumption. On a set top box set it to output whatever resolutiuon the signal comes in at. In my situation using a SA HD8300 DVR I set t to output all resolutions which then achieves the desired result.

3) Lastly adjust the VP parameters for each source / signal type to look the best. The VP remembers all settings major by source (well actually selected input connection), minor by signal type (resolution)

If done right you could end up with a pure digital chain from head end to display or pretty close to it. I have that with my STB's, and with the DVD players from the dvd signal (non SDI) to the display. When the signal is good, it looks very very good, when the signal is crappy it looks crappy.

Josh, thank you for the reply. Just to make sure, there really wouldn't be a benefit to have a VP50, in this situation?
Thanks

Josh,

Should this legal restriction also apply to RGBHV (VGA) outputs? Does HDCP forbid all analog output if it is present on any input?

The reason I ask is, IIRC, the Xbox 360 is able to provide an analog 1080p output via its VGA output for HD-DVD sources. Granted, that's just dealing with AACS (not HDCP licensing) but I thought I'd float it out there.

-John

Josh,

When are you planning to release a production software for VP-30? I think the beta version has been there for more than a month. Some users have pointed out to some bugs in ver 1.14, are you guys working on a fix for these bugs?

Thanks

The remote receiver in the VP30 has never been very sensitive, but using my Pronto has overcome this to some degree.
But since the latest firmware upgrade even the Pronto must be aimed very exact to get some response, no to speak of the original remote which is now even more difficult to operate.
I already have the replacement lens, which didn't make much of a difference btw.
Anyone?

Sorry if I am missing something obvious, but I intend to get a blueray player from Santa, and I wonder if my VP30 will support the 24 images-per-second movie mode as offered by BlueRay?
BTW- just bought a full HD Panny plasma and 1080p from the VP30 works flawlessly- I wonder what HD will be able to add to the magnificent picture in SD mode...

Could you explain to me, how firmware changes can do this?

Not a clue- but it's not impossible that currents, voltages and routing of signals can be changed from software.
DVDO has been very silent on the issue I must admit...
Anyway, I think I'm gonna replace the ir diode by a more powerful one, which might be helpful if the available current allows this.