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Can I have my HD Video (bluray & hddvd) passing through and going out HDMI and My SD Video (Laserdisc/VCR) being enhanced by the vp30 and going out over Component? would that have less flaws than all out the one Hdmi?
Cheers
PS.
How much does the Edge cost and are there optional cards you need for it or is it all there?.

The output is not the problem. HDMI all the way is fine, but you might run into problems with passing through "newer" signals like 1080p24. And the VP30 definitely won't pass through HD audio signals.


between $500 on ebay and $600 through retail channels. There are no add ons, everything's included.

Just some added detail on this. The VP30 is HDMI 1.1 compliant, which means that it won't pass through HD audio formats (TrueHD, DTS-MA) as bitstream. If the player converts these signals to LPCM, the VP30 should be able to pass them through.

Hi
Sound doesnt worry me as i run the Analog outs from my HD DVD & Blu Ray Players straight into my amp.
Thanks

Ok
I have my VP30 up and running and everything work perfectly, The only thing i would like it to do is let me put a 1080P signal in.
My software is vers 1.11b, Has the new 1.14 software got any problems, what features will I lose by getting the 1080p passthrough in the new software.
I am only interested in the picture as all my sound is fed in to my amp.
Thanks in advance.
PS. There is also a warning about serial/USB drivers with the new firmware is this a Major problem?

Yes if you use the "non" recomended USB to RS232 converter you may Brick your VP30
DVDO recommend FTDI chip based USB-RS232 adapters and the driver they have on the DVDO web site as well as Tera Term... I just use an old PC with RS232 and the supplied RS232 cable with tera-term and have never had A problem updating...

When I had the VP30/ABT102 Pass through was working fine from memory but that was before V 1.04... When in pass through mode You were still able to change colour space contrast brightness and Gamma from memory...

Cheers

Hi
I dont quite understand the FTDI thing, Is it only because of the Serial port to USB that is the problem, What if I use a DB9 Male to Female extension cable will that bypass the problem?.

When you say RS232 do you mean the 9 pin male VGA type connector on the back of my PC?

I have the VP30/ABT102 and I dont get passthrough with vers. 1.11b do you remember what Version you had and where can I find it.

Sorry to ask so many questions but I really dont want to stuff this up but I also really want the passthrough feature because I find the Picture is a little grainy compared to going straight through to my CRT at 1080P.
Thanks Alan

Yes.

You need a nine pin SERIAL cable, not video cable. It's unlikely you have a 9 pin VGA connector (but not impossible) as they are normally 15 pin. See http://pinouts.ru/

BTW: Test it on something other than your VP30... You could easily loop back Tx to Rx...

Mark

Hi
I have the 9 pin VGA Female to Male Cable that came with the VP30 and I have 2 x 9 pin VGA outs on my Mobo and there not Monitor outs.
One of them has a Symbol engraved in to the PC back plate which looks like a Universal serial Bus logo the one with an arrow and two lines coming from it.
Thanks

VGA = Video Graphics Array, so perhaps it's really a RS-232 serial cable. Other than that, it's tough to say what you have. Perhaps your manual for your PC would help out.

Mark

Hi
Thanks for all the help so far.
I said VGA because it is the same shape as a VGA only it has 9 pins not 15.
I know much older computers had a 9 pin VGA out but that is really old.

So Has everyone that has upgraded to software 1.14 happy or is there an older version that is better and if so where is it available for download?

Sorry for sounding so Anal but I am in Australia and if anything goes wrong with this I am screwed trying to find a tech to fix it.
Thanks

Hi Alan, No prob with questions mate..

What I mean by A FTDI chipset based USB to RS232 converter is that the internal brain of the USB-RS232 converter is A type that DVDO Know to work reliably..

I have used el-cheapo $15 USB-RS232 converters and had issues with them losing sync & if that happens while you are updating your VP30 you run A high risk of BRICKING it meaning it will be in A useless state...

Here's A Link to Australian Dist of the correct USB-RS232 converter,
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/easys...ter-cable.html

But you need to use the Driver that is on DVDO's web site not the one that comes with the converter...

Sorry I dont recall what Version firmware I ran with the VP30/Abt102 as it was well over A year ago when I upgraded to the VP50pro...

Hope this helps...
Cheers....

1.14 supports pass through, 1.10 does not.

for my unit (and possibly only my unit? we never really got to the bottom of this with DVDO support) 1.14 introduced a small problem with color. for this reason i prefer to run 1.10. older versions are not posted on their site- someone had to email it to me.

i think 1.10 was a good stable version. not familiar with 1.11 or any variants of it so i don't know if any other features got added between 1.10 and 1.14 besides pass-through.

Ok, So If i load Tera program and the 1.14 on my old PC and connect it to the VP30 using the serial port out of my PC through a serial cable female to male to the VP30 I will work?

What color Problems with 1.14?
Thanks

Yes, your old PC with TeraTerm and a straight serial-to-serial connection should work without any issues.

I honestly can't remember the color issues with 1.14, I am sure others here do, but I think it was related to passthrough.

OK, Heres what happened.
The software loaded without a hitch.
I Turned the Blu Ray Player on, selected 1080P, Set the VP30 to passthrough and output to 1080P, Put on Casino Royale and James Bond looks like a Smurf, everybody in the movie has blue skin and the Ocean has turned red.
I then turn off the Passthrough and I get nothing, I set my blu ray player to 1080i and its back to how it was.
So updating to the new software did nothing to get 1080P.
Anyone had this problem and fixed it?
Thanks

First what projector or display are you using??

By what you are saying You may have the RGB or Component set wrong ..

As A starting point Just set the Player, VP30, and display to RGB and see if that fixes the colour space issue (wrong colours)..

Second you may have the aspect ratio set wrong, if the display is 16:9, set the player to 16:9 under display type then set the VP30 to auto or 16:9 screen for Frame aspect ratio & then make sure your display is set to its native 16:9....

Hope this helps,
Cheers....

Hi
Thanks for the reply.
All the settings on my Projector, Blu Ray / HD DVD Player and VP 30 are correct, The VP30 just does not want to Passthrough a 1080P signal with this 1.14 software without giving me Color problems.
What Software works with the passthrough?
Where can I find It?
Can I backdate the software?
Thanks

What type of projector do you have ?

Yes you can roll back to an older ver firmware...
Cheers....

Crt

just for the record my color issue with 1.14 was described previously here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post13082437
and here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13085490
and as far as i can tell is not at all the same issue being reported by G70

Are, So do you have A G70 CRT projector with A Moome HDMI internal card or HD fury ? for HDCP..

If the above is true, I am not sure if you are aware but 1080p is not optimum for A G70 it cant fully resolve that rez and will look soft compared to say 1080i / 1920x800p/ 810p/ 817p or 720p...

Also CRT's cant display A 24Hz frame rate as it's way to low for A CRT but can display 1080i/ 1080p @60Hz..

Cheers...

Hi
Thanks for all the help.
Yeah, I know about 24Hz.

I have read this about the G70 as well and It is not true, In my case anyway.
I have a 2.4 mt wide screen and sit back about 5 mt.
It is connected by a HDMI cable running into a Sony First Hdmi moome card.
I have the Sharpest, Cleanest picture you could ever want.

I have tried 1080i but I could see lines, I tried the 720p and it was soft.

I think that the guy who wrote this originally had an older G70, I say this because I Bought another G70 last month as a Back Up and the Guy I bought it from is a TV Tech Repairman.
He did try 1080p but it was soft and because he had read the same thing, that it cant fully resolve he never tried any further with it and stuck to 1080i.

He offered to come around and do the Astig on mine and lens flap.
When he walked in and saw the 1080P pic i had up from a blu ray his jaw dropped, He could not believe how Good the pic was and that was before we did any adjusments.
He ended up giving my G70 an Astig adjustment and a focus and the picture got even better.

The only thing we could think of as to why the 1080P worked so well with mine was that his G70 was one of the early makes with differant firmware and mine was one of the last to be made.
The tube condition on both sets was about the same 8/10.

Anyway back to my color problem.
The size of my picture is not the problem, when I said that James Bond looked like a Smurf I meant in Color not stature.
I tried to look at the pics in the link but they werent the best quality to tell if it was the same problem.
Peoples faces that have a Pink color turned Bluish and objects that are blue turned redish. I have tried the Color space and there is no differance.
Thanks again

Hi
have never taken a pic of my screen before or ever uploaded one, so here goes.
Cheers
This has the Passthrough mode on and the Blu ray player Set to 1080P.
If I keep the BD Player on 1080p and the Passthrough mode off I get a just a blue screen.

Hi G70, Have you been in contact with DVDO about your issue ??

I looked through my Hard drive for the VP30 firmware up date's, I had them all at one
time but must have deleted them all ..

I would get in contact with DVDO and ask them to Email you some of the older versions of firmware that also have the 1080p pass through feature, as I am sure they would have copy's of all of them ...

Cheers....

Hello forum members. I am trying to interface the HDMI output of the VP-30 to an HDFury2 to connect with the component (1080i) input of my Pioneer Elite 710HD display. I cannot get a picture out of the HDFury2 even though the VP-30 seems to be processing the signal (steady blue LED on the VP-30) and there is a blue light on the HDFury2 indicating there is a signal that is being processed by that.

Any ideas? Incidentally, the HDFury2 will output a useable signal to the display if the source is connected directly to it's input bypassing the VP-30 even though there are random 3-4 second dropouts of the video blanking the display.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

there is a "HDCP on/off" toggle somewhere in the VP30 as i recall- did you try that?

If you are trying to get your fury to output component, then make sure that the switch on the side isn't set to rgb.

I spoke with many of you who were quoted a different rate than was given to be straight by DVDO support, and some that got rates $200 higher for no reason. The original offer did not include returning the DVDO which some of you were told this is now a must.

We have invested ~2200US in this unit. Some of us scoff in laughter (Fabio is a member here, right), but for some of us, we have to save for parts of this hobby.

As I originally spoke (for and hour and 45 minutes) to DVDO about my issues-how I completely bypassed the unity more than 50% of the time. And I let them know the forum was full of similar complaints (he didn't deny it at all), I am willing to take the lead in working with DVDO on a non-;itigation matter to get newer units, versions of our units that work as advertised (and DVDO, the features your removed from the posts and website are still visible on Archive,org.Oops)- and I have local copies both hard copy and digital.

We just want out nits to WORK. Personally, I will take the EDGE "upgrade" you offered me over the phone, I transcribed all the details. Unfortunately OneCall jacked the price by 200.00 and played dumb.But something has got to be done. If not, your forum will earn a place right under TV Authority. And judging by the PM's I get alone, I suspect this post will be copied and pasted across the web like wildfire.

-Shawn Croswell

have been doing that and still no go. Worked well with the vp 50pro but the vp30 hasn't.


it's what I have been expericing also would vista have anything to do with it?