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post #241 of 3764
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Well I won my Projector Today on eBay.
I got a brand new Factory sealed Optoma H79 for $4k from a authorized Optoma Dealer.

Saved like $900.00 from what they sell for at a good price.
post #242 of 3764
Welcome to the 79 club!
post #243 of 3764
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Welcome to the 79 club!

Thanks, Very Happy to be Part of it
post #244 of 3764
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Thanks, Very Happy to be Part of it

Repeat after me, do NOT hook that MOFO up until the very last minute! :-)

Congrats on the win!
post #245 of 3764
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Saturday we will be Veneering the Light Trays Front and Bottom. Going to Stain some Oak and Maple and see what I like Better. I will Post some pictures after the Veneering is done.

Ruben

You're a man of many talents. Keep up all the great work and like always, take many pictures
post #246 of 3764
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Repeat after me, do NOT hook that MOFO up until the very last minute! :-)

Congrats on the win!

Yes, I know that is the Biggest Mistake of HT.
My Optoma is coming UPS Ground from NY and It will take about a week to get to me. I plan on having my theater room Done by then. I still need to get a Screen and I am still doing research on that. I am also still waiting on my Equipment Rack to arrive as well. Since I allocated some money to pay a couple guys to finish up the theater due to my hectic work schedule, there should be no reason for it not to be ready in time.

Also there was no way in the World I could pass up an opportunity to own the Best DLP Projector for a Discounted price. I was just about to drop $4,899.00 plus Tax plus Shipping on One, until I saw this auction at the final stage. I was willing to go up to $4,500 on the auction, but it stopped at $4k (lucky me).
post #247 of 3764
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What got done today?

Well today we masked off the whole Star Ceiling and Prepped the Soffits/Light Trays for the Veneer. That pretty Much took 3 hours to smooth everything down and putty the screw Holes.

Monday we will begin the Veneering first Thing, then Stain, then Lacquer Coating. I decided to go with Red Oak for the Veneer. It seemed to have the Best Grain for What I wanted. We shot a Nice Red Stain on a Few Veneer Samples and Red Oak showed the Grain the Best through the Stain. This High Gloss Lacquer will bring the Red out lovely.

For Those you want to know, we are using a Pre-Mixed Stain, and then a High Gloss Lacquer Coating that will get about 3 - 4 Coats with Sanding. The Stain is a Spray on with no wipe off Stain. The Lacquer gets Sprayed too.

We will be using the same process for the Columns as well.

Ruben
post #248 of 3764
Not to be a wet rag but I'd reconsider the high gloss finish. You've spent a lot of time and money to make this a good looking and performing place. I'd hate to see you get a bunch of nasty light reflections off those glossy elements that would compromise the screen image.
post #249 of 3764
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Monday we will begin the Veneering first Thing, then Stain, then Lacquer Coating. I decided to go with Red Oak for the Veneer.

Ruben,

I was planning to build my columns out of MDF and then veneer them also. Any pictures of the actual veneering process would be very appreciated!

Thanks,

Steve
post #250 of 3764
Chirpie:

I resemble that remark. I've got 500 hours on my 79 and my theater isn't done yet.
post #251 of 3764
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Hey Friends, I'm gonna need your help here. I decided to do a Dark Carpet (Black or Dark Grey) based on what you guys said earlier in this thread here. Problem is, I went to the Carpet store today to look at carpets and can't figure out if I should go with a Black with a Grey Pattern or an all Black with a Black Raised Pattern (See Samples below).

This Place is pretty expensive (Charging $4.85 a SQUARE FOOT to $5.85 a SQUARE FOOT). Yes I said a Square Foot Above. The Carpets I always looked at in the Past were priced by Square Yards.

This is what I brought home today...

This comes in Black


This comes in Black (Same as above You See the Pattern Better)


This is Black with Brownish/Goldish Lines (Also Comes in Dark Grey with Light Grey Lines)


This is Black with a Grey Pattern


This is the same as above
post #252 of 3764
I vote for the black with grey.

All black carpet looks nice - when it's clean - which is for about 15 minutes after you vacuum it...
post #253 of 3764
I like the 1st one best also (interesting pattern). However, with dirt and lint (as bpape mentioned), it may not be the best choice. With that in mind, the 2nd one may be a good alternative. Has a hint of brightness to break up a single color pallet.

Steve
post #254 of 3764
The last one looks like a tire pattern.

I would go for the second chioce, based on your couch colors, since the brown looks more red than anything. Not as bright as your recliners, but still the same idea. That may just be the lighting with the camera, but in your theater, nobody is really going to notice the brown is not the same red as the chairs.
post #255 of 3764
I like the Black Brownish with gold lines. It does come off as a little red, which it perfect for a theater.

I like the first textured carpet, but I think that in solid black would be a nightmare to keep clean, not to mention getting every last peice of popcorn out of it!

Sean
post #256 of 3764
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Thanks Guys, for Helping me out.

Actually That Carpet you think is a Bronish Red is an extremely Deep Black with Brown Lines. The Scan I did on my Scanner messed the colors up on it. I really Love the Black Carpet with the brown Lines as well. I was thinking about it for a month I just was real worried about it not matching the Red & Black Theme I am Doing. I went as far as taking a red Sharpie marker and tried to color in the Gold Lines on the Sample I have. It just came out to dark. I must say, The carpet sample looks awesome next to the theater chairs. I wish I could Special order it with Red Lines or Grey Lines at Least.

They are charging $4.84 a Square Foot for that and that's gonna end up costing about $1,500.00 to do my 300 SQF Room. I figured for that much money, I should be getting a more elegant type carpet.

What do you think?

Any online carpet retailers I should check out first before making the commitment?

Thanks
Ruben
post #257 of 3764
Sandman:

Look in the yellow pages for places that carry a LARGE selection of commercial carpets, look for the "graphic loop" style. You'll find a little more pronounced patterns and prices around $2.5 to $3 sq ft.

Having said that I haven't picked a pattern yet.
post #258 of 3764
Sandman, this is an incredible thread. Thank you for your efforts. I think you could add some more content and publish this thread as a booklet of "How I did my DIY HT" I know I'd buy it.

I may be getting ahead of the game but was wondering how you were planning to tune your room. Are you going to hire an acoustic engineer (? $), or dB meter/MIC with spectrum analyzer/ freq response software, or a proprietary product like the Audyssey from Texas Instruments (DENON) type thing?

Thanks,

Mehran
post #259 of 3764
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Originally Posted by radm1f View Post

Sandman, this is an incredible thread. Thank you for your efforts. I think you could add some more content and publish this thread as a booklet of "How I did my DIY HT" I know I'd buy it.

I may be getting ahead of the game but was wondering how you were planning to tune your room. Are you going to hire an acoustic engineer (? $), or dB meter/MIC with spectrum analyzer/ freq response software, or a proprietary product like the Audyssey from Texas Instruments (DENON) type thing?

Thanks,

Mehran

Thanks for your words.

I will Analyze the Room with some software and a laptop. I will first see If I can tune it properly with the help of BPape. If that doesn't work correctly I will bring someone in to do it locally.
post #260 of 3764
Did I miss the final renders? Let's see them... before he finishes the room
post #261 of 3764
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For Those you want to know, we are using a Pre-Mixed Stain, and then a High Gloss Lacquer Coating that will get about 3 - 4 Coats with Sanding. The Stain is a Spray on with no wipe off Stain. The Lacquer gets Sprayed too.

Ruben

I really want to know how this stain applies and where to buy it. Is it available at HD or Lowes? It seems a much simpler approach than the conventional wipe off style. TIA.
post #262 of 3764
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Originally Posted by bpape View Post

Not to be a wet rag but I'd reconsider the high gloss finish. You've spent a lot of time and money to make this a good looking and performing place. I'd hate to see you get a bunch of nasty light reflections off those glossy elements that would compromise the screen image.

But man, bpape, it looks so freakin' cool! ^_^ (Speaking as a biased person who laqured up his bottom half columns as much as he could stand it.) Let's not forget all the times he'll just recline back in those chairs and listen to some multi-channel music... then it's all about the visuals of the room. :-)
post #263 of 3764
Understand. I agree that it would look really sharp.

His design goals are primarily for HT and a very little bit of music. In any case, if the veneer is nice and it's stained nicely, IMO you don't need the gloss. Wood is gorgeous all by itself. A nice satin urethene would do nicely.
post #264 of 3764
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Well the Veneering of the Light Tray/Soffit got finished up today. Took about 6 hours with One Guy. Basically we layed out all the Veneer pieces and Matched the Grain for But pieces as clos as possible before applying the Contact Cement.

First About the Veneer, it is a Paper Backed Oak Veneer. We used paper back because it is very flexible without cracking. It's a little bit more money, but it is much easier to work with opposed to non backed veneer.

First we smoothed out the entire MDF, made sure all Screws were counter sinked, filled up screw holes with wood putty, Sanded the whole light tray down to make sure it was all smooth.

Next Applied the veneer. The Glue to apply the veneer is a Special Contact cement for veneers. We first shot the glue on the first piece of Veneer with a spray gun. Then rolled the glue out with a roller to make it smoother. Then Shot the MDF with the glue and rolled it out as well. Then you let it sit for a few minutes and then apply the veneer to the MDF. We then used a special hard heavy roller to smooth the veneer out over the MDF. Then we Began the Second Piece.

There is a little trick to hide But Seams (where 2 veneer edges meet up with each other). You use a special glue and apply it to the crack of the Seam, let it dry a bit and then sand the seam in multiple directions with a corse sandpaper (like 100 Grit). What it does is forces the Saw dust your sanding off to fill up the Seam and blend in so it looks like one continuous piece of wood.

Once it gets coated/sealed you do not see the seam. You are going to see the Seams in my pictures below because we did not seal the Veneer yet.

Here are some pictures below, all we need to do now is a light final sanding of he Veneer to roughen it up a bit and then the sealing and Staining begins and the final clear coat finishes it.

Here are some flicks..

First off, these are some half rounds I am going to experiment with for possible Columns.


Here is what the Veneer looks like unapplied...



Here is the Veneer apllied to the light tray...

Front of the Theater...
(Good Thing we Covered the Ceiling First with Plastic)



Back of the Theater...



Some Close ups...

Veneer wraps around the Light tray. 1 peice does theSide and bottom...


Close up of a Bottom corner...



Some other Shots...



post #265 of 3764
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Continued...

Here is the Sealer that goes on after we do the light sanding of the Veneer. This Goes on before the Stain, this basically makes sure your stain gets evenly applied so you dont have light and dark spots...



For those who want to know about the Stain that We are going to spray on, here it is...



The Staining begins tomorrow! Finally, we get to see some color brought in this room!

More Pictures tomorrow after the Staining is done. Stay Tuned!
post #266 of 3764
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Originally Posted by hvn4179 View Post

I really want to know how this stain applies and where to buy it. Is it available at HD or Lowes? It seems a much simpler approach than the conventional wipe off style. TIA.

It's available at Specialty Stores. Try checking out their website for distributors in your area. I posted a picture of the Stain above. http://www.mlcampbell.com/
post #267 of 3764
Dude,

You're absolutely coming up to do the finish work in MY room when I build my next one. That's going to look schweeet.
post #268 of 3764
"Veneer wraps around the Light tray. 1 peice does the Side and bottom..."

Did you have to round the corner a bit to keep the veneer from cracking?

Reason I ask is when I veneered my subwoofer using paper-backed red oak, I had to round the corners to keep it from cracking.

It's coming along really nice Sandman - keep up the good work.

-Gerry
post #269 of 3764
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Originally Posted by Gerry S View Post

Did you have to round the corner a bit to keep the veneer from cracking?
-Gerry

Thanks, Yes, we rounded off the corners a slight bit to Wrap them with one piece. If you look at the closeup shot of the light tray above, you will see the corner.

Ruben
post #270 of 3764
You definitely have the patience and skills. Can't wait to see the final product.

Keep up the good work
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