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post #61 of 3744
Would he like to come do some work for me!? That's DIRT cheap.
post #62 of 3744
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

I currently Got some incredible Renders of the Room from Ryan Kramer being worked on

Cool. Care to share the renders with the forum? I'd like to see the work of another 3d modeler. I'm sure he'll embarass my efforts.
post #63 of 3744
Are you sure about $75.

I think in the translation he said "$75 a sheet". She heard $75 for that Sheet.

just kidding but I really think you should check man. The going rate around here is $ 200-250 per day for skilled (residency not a requirement) drywall finishing. And I don't see how he can do your job in less than 4 half day sessions with drying time in between.
post #64 of 3744
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Are you sure about $75.

I think in the translation he said "$75 a sheet". She heard $75 for that Sheet.

just kidding but I really think you should check man. The going rate around here is $ 200-250 per day for skilled (residency not a requirement) drywall finishing. And I don't see how he can do your job in less than 4 half day sessions with drying time in between.


Yeah Man, The Guy Said $75 to do the First Layer of Dry Wall with one Coat and Tape and Second Layer of Drywall with Tape and 2 Coats all for $75.00 plus a Bag or 2 of Fast Drying Compound which is like $8.00 a bag. This guy said it would take him one hour to do the first Layer and another Hour the following day to do the Second Layer.

His wife Cleans our home so I think he is doing it more as a favor. The Room is 20'-6" x 15' x 9' Ceiling. a little over 300 SQF.

For $75.00 I aint complaining Saves me the big headache of doing the Ceiling as well.
post #65 of 3744
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Here are there renders I got so Far. What really blows me away about them is the Texture in the Chairs and surroundings.

They are still being finished up as far as Walls and Patterns and Lighting placement...






post #66 of 3744
Wow! Great room SandmanX! I'm planning to rebuild my livingroom this winter and I'm going for the same wall config, 2x4" with insulation and a sandwich of 5/8 + soundboard + 5/8 sheetrock all glued together.

Will be a treat to follow your progress with the room and hopefully it will give me a few pointers too!

Btw. anybody: would it help the dampening properties of my room to add a 1" MDF board inside the room to the sandwich mentioned above ? Or will the MDF be too hard compared with the sheetrock surface, thinking of sound reflection etc. ?
post #67 of 3744
Sandman those renderings are unbelievable. With that motivation I can see why you are still up at 4am.
post #68 of 3744
Would you forgive some questions and comments on the renders? I don't mean to distract from your thread.

Thanks for sharing the renderings. I must admit that some of the effects are very nice. I think I could get closer to them if I use an external renderer called yafray with blender. But I need to upgrade my PC to do that.

The first render looks quite good. He did an excellent job of custom modelling the chairs you plan to use. You should appreciate that. I am sure some work was involved there.

In the second one down, I am thourougly confused by the door. It kind of looks like it is encased in water. Is that just a WIP that will be changed or is that somehow an effect you are aiming for in the actual theater? Looks like he could improve the texture on the top of the columns as well in this image.

The 3rd and 5th images show some closeups of the textures on the chairs. It looks like he applied a nor map to the model to and maybe had the depth a little much. I've never seen a chair that looks like that.

I understand these are a WIP and the final products will probably kick butt. Just some questions and comments from the peanut gallery and another 3d modeller. Great work, it's always fun to see someone else's efforts.

reap
post #69 of 3744
Do you know what software is being used? It looks like 3ds.
post #70 of 3744
Thread Starter 
Taping and Mudding of the First Layer begins Today.

Pictures to Follow.
post #71 of 3744
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Do you know what software is being used? It looks like 3ds.

Hey Reaper, Ryan Kramer is me. :-)

I'm still working on the renders, these are works in progress as we go.

The program is still Cinema 4D for me, one day I might change. :-)

The door has a bump map on it set to high with a transparency that's too severe. Don't worry, it's been fixed since then.

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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

The first render looks quite good. He did an excellent job of custom modelling the chairs you plan to use. You should appreciate that. I am sure some work was involved there.

Awww, you DO know your stuff. Thanks for the nod.

Sandman and I are doing the back and forth game right now. I'm supposed to have final renders to him tonight. Any other questions, just ask. ^_^
post #72 of 3744
Hey, it's Chirpie! I could have sworn that his renders looked uncannily like your own theater models. Funny that I only know you by Chirpie

It's cool that we can discuss the models some. I assumed it was some high power theater designer that would have no time for it. Those equipment models on his rack look familiar as well. Pulled straight from your model?

You have to post the finals, guys, K? I am anxious to see your stage area and the updated textures on the chairs. nice job so far. I have some competition now.
post #73 of 3744
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Hey, it's Chirpie! I could have sworn that his renders looked uncannily like your own theater models. Funny that I only know you by Chirpie

It's cool that we can discuss the models some. I assumed it was some high power theater designer that would have no time for it. Those equipment models on his rack look familiar as well. Pulled straight from your model?

Nope, no higher power here. Yeah, my secret identiy is out. ^_^ Oh well.

The equipment rack is a slightly modified version of the one I did for my theater. The columns are from my theater model because sandman had expressed he liked the design. So we used that as a starting point. Everything else is built from scratch since the room is a different size. It's just easier to do it that way than go and select every shape, resizing them.


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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

You have to post the finals, guys, K? I am anxious to see your stage area and the updated textures on the chairs. nice job so far. I have some competition now.

It's Sandman's rules, but I'm sure he will. ^_^
post #74 of 3744
Wow! Sandman, awesome concept, progress, and generosity sharing so much info. this is the single best DIY theater construction thread I've seen so far.

I really think you can take - practically word for word - this thread and repackage it into a pdf manual (with the detail I'm sure you're going to add - based on your postings thus far - on the finishing of the project).

One day when I have a job that doesn't require me to move every 2-3 years, I hope I'll be posting about my theater construction!

Again, awesome post, awesome (future) theater!
post #75 of 3744
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the great comments!

Update:
The Gilford of Maine Fabric Arrived today. Thanks to The members here at AVS for letting me up on Fabricmate. I got the best price I could find of $12.00 a Yard and the standard Delivery was super Fast!!!



Here is the Track system by Fabricmate Used for Framing out the Panels that everyone was wondering about. Basically You cut your 45 - 46 degree angle cuts at the ends to make your frame. Liquid Nail it and Staple it to the Walls and put your 1 " 703 or whatever you use inside the frame for treatment and then use a pizza cutter to put the fabric into the gripping section. This holds the fabric very well and Saves you a Ton of Labor and Staples. They Do however Cost $2.90 a Foot if you buy under 200 feet and $2.50 a Foot if you buy 200 Feet and up. They come in 5 foot Lengths.

I will build a Dummy 12" x 12" Frame tonight to test it out.





Drywall Updates:

The 3 Layer Ceiling Is Finished and top of the walls are Being Closed up as I type this. The Guy that is Doing the Taping and Mudding for $75.00 is also now helping put up the final Drywall. Not Bad.









More Pictures to Come...
post #76 of 3744
Thread Starter 
The Taping Guy Has Some really Long Funny looking Legs
He should be a basketball Player.

post #77 of 3744
Thread Starter 
Some New Renders. I just asked Ryan to make the Towers a little less wide and a couple little other changes before it is Perfect to me.

Now My Biggest Question with my 9 foot ceilings is, if I should go with a Coffered Ceiling like you see in the renders below or without? A coffered ceiling will hide the seams on the star Panels we are making, which are 4' x 4' Panels wrapped in Black GoM.

What do you guys think?

With the Coffered Ceiling...


Without the Coffered Ceiling...


Here are some more renders of the Room...













post #78 of 3744
1 vote for coffered ceiling
and

If your taking them

1 vote for grey carpet


Looks great either way, keep up the good work, I am sure you'll enjoy the heck out of your theater when you are done.

Later,
Brian
post #79 of 3744
A coffered ceiling is an architectural design that tends to make the ceiling seem lower. That's why you normally only see it used on 10ft and higher ceilings. If you prefer that lower feel go coffered. I prefer a higher, more expansive "feel", especially with star lights, so I vote for non-coffered.

I also vote for the gray carpet.

Your whole design is stunning. It will be super no matter what you decide.
post #80 of 3744
Patterned grey carpet (not monochrome). Reason red chairs on red carpet makes the chairs kind of "disappear" in the room. And those chairs have style you want them to be "in your face". If everything else is Monochrome. it helps to have some surface with some pattern. Also I'm putting black on my stage steps.

See attached pictures of trim detail for a different ceiling treatment interesting use of "pinstipes" (not mine but it has a high WAF factor)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...chmentid=38205

Lastly I have the Kenroy "Leonardo" sconces shown in the renderings. After experimentation I discovered the following. They take candlelabra base bulbs. Don't just run out and get the standard clear pointed candelabra bulbs. I found that using the round GE reveal bulbs gives the best light in my blue/grey room. Also if you bend the bulb holders out to a position where the bulbs are the furthest away from the wall you get the best wall wash effect (less wall shadows).
post #81 of 3744
I vote for either no coffered ceilings or smaller, thinner cross-sections so it doesn't come down from the ceiling as far.

Renders are great!
post #82 of 3744
post #83 of 3744
I like the coffer too but would agree that something a bit less massive would infringe less on the 'feel' of spaciousness.

Definitely grey carpet. make the curtains and chairs stand out.
post #84 of 3744
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Originally Posted by bpape View Post

I like the coffer too but would agree that something a bit less massive would infringe less on the 'feel' of spaciousness.

Definitely grey carpet. make the curtains and chairs stand out.



The Carpet is Suppose to be Black, but it looks grey in those renders for some reason.
post #85 of 3744
Hi sandman great work!! I was wondering what are the offsets for each stud in the wall is one side 16 Oc and the othe 16 Oc. Thanks for the info!!

Mark
post #86 of 3744
Definitely do the coffered ceiling, gives a entirely different and classier look to the room.
post #87 of 3744
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

The Carpet is Suppose to be Black, but it looks grey in those renders for some reason.

That's partly my fault in that I changed the levels on the renders a bit in Photoshop. It made them a little more grey than they should have appeared. ^_^;
post #88 of 3744
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Originally Posted by mlaferriere View Post

Hi sandman great work!! I was wondering what are the offsets for each stud in the wall is one side 16 Oc and the othe 16 Oc. Thanks for the info!!

Mark

Thanks, Yes the Studs or 16 on Center both Sides.
post #89 of 3744
Typical HT Rooms, unless your budget is unlimited, are comprised of a great amount of compromises. Taking into consideration the fact that you have a 9' ceiling I vote for the coffered ceiling, maybe you could do as Scott had mentioned and reduce the amount of drop a bit. If you only had an 8' ceiling I would have voted for non-coffered. I think the amount of class it adds to the room is worth losing a few inches of headroom. In the renders it looks like you removed the soffit uplighting with the coffered ceiling which I think is a great idea as well or it might look to busy.
post #90 of 3744
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Originally Posted by Rob_McArthur View Post

In the renders it looks like you removed the soffit uplighting with the coffered ceiling which I think is a great idea as well or it might look to busy.

That was a bit of an assumption on my part... I felt it'd cover up the fiber optic ceiling too much and left it out. Sorry if I wasn't supposed to. ^_^
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