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post #241 of 431
Does having the TVGOS data source channel (usually PBS) moved to a digital channel always result in the TVGOS data no longer coming in on the cable? Also, I was under the impression that the RD-XS54 would not tune or receive digital channels. If a cable system switches to all-digital and no longer provides any analog service, it would seem that all DVRs with analog-only tuners would become useless.
post #242 of 431
No, that's not correct because the cable system's STB will output an analog signal, just like it does now.
post #243 of 431
The tuners in those DVD Recorders would become useless in the absense of any analog channels to tune. But the recorders themselves would continue to be useful, as RG says, for example from STB analog outputs, or from VCRs or video game consoles, depending on what kinds of things you record, there will be plenty of analog video sources that can still be recorded.
post #244 of 431
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Originally Posted by tedcmiller View Post

Does having the TVGOS data source channel (usually PBS) moved to a digital channel always result in the TVGOS data no longer coming in on the cable? Also, I was under the impression that the RD-XS54 would not tune or receive digital channels. If a cable system switches to all-digital and no longer provides any analog service, it would seem that all DVRs with analog-only tuners would become useless.

The issue is what local channel feed your cable company is using, digit or analog. Most of the TVGOS data comes from the local analog PBS channels but other network stations may also provided this data. It all depending what stations signup with TV Guide. The information I received from TV Guide and Toshiba is that a digital station can NOT pass through the TVGOS data. So as long as your cable company is using the analog feed from your local PBS (or other TVGOS provider) station you should be getting TVGOS data from your cable. But as soon as your cable changes over to using the digital PBS feed on their lineup, you will loose your data. The TV Guide rep I talked to said they are working with some cable companies to get them to carry both the analog and digital stations so the guide data remains available. The only other solution you would have is to use an OTA to get your local analog PBS station using the XS54 tuner and set up your cable box for input 1 or 3. This way you get the guide info off the air and use it for your cable box. That is the current configuration I'm using.
post #245 of 431
First, let me say that I am using my RD-XS54 with analog-only cable and have no problems with the TVGOS operation. My concern is for the future when my cable company decides to make changes.

If I understand correctly, without an analog source (cable or OTA), there is no TVGOS data. The answer to the second question is that the RD-XS54 does not tune digital channels and you must have a digital capable cable box feeding the DVR to record digital channels.

I assume this mean that if you answer YES (I answered NO since I do not subscribe to digital service on my cable system) to the question regarding the presence of a cable box during the setup procedure, the channel line up will include the digital channels along with the analog channels. If this is correct, then you should be able to schedule recordings on a digital channel and then, using the infrared device provided, the DVR will set the cable box to the correct channel for recording. However, unless an analog source for TVGOS data is available, all recording would have to be scheduled manually.

How much of the above is correct? Since I do not have digital service or a cable box, I can't really test any of these assumptions.
post #246 of 431
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Originally Posted by tedcmiller View Post

First, let me say that I am using my RD-XS54 with analog-only cable and have no problems with the TVGOS operation. My concern is for the future when my cable company decides to make changes.

If I understand correctly, without an analog source (cable or OTA), there is no TVGOS data. The answer to the second question is that the RD-XS54 does not tune digital channels and you must have a digital capable cable box feeding the DVR to record digital channels.

I assume this mean that if you answer YES (I answered NO since I do not subscribe to digital service on my cable system) to the question regarding the presence of a cable box during the setup procedure, the channel line up will include the digital channels along with the analog channels. If this is correct, then you should be able to schedule recordings on a digital channel and then, using the infrared device provided, the DVR will set the cable box to the correct channel for recording. However, unless an analog source for TVGOS data is available, all recording would have to be scheduled manually.

How much of the above is correct? Since I do not have digital service or a cable box, I can't really test any of these assumptions.

You have it down, that is how it works. In the setup for the TVGOS you have several options after you enter your ZIP code. In my case, I select I have cable service, then I say I have a cable box, then you have options of where the box is connected (Tuner, Input 1 or Input 3). If you select Input 1 or 3 for the cable box, the next option is do you have a OTA connected. But that option is only provided as long as you do not select the tuner option for the cable box. Its the same as setting your tv tuner to cable or antenna. When you get the guide data to download using the OTA station, I only got my basic cable stations loaded with their correct channel locations. You then still need to use the TVGOS setup option to set up all of the digital cable stations and where to tune them on your box. All digital stations (Movie Channels East and West and most Digital Channels) are all listed but you need to turn on the ones you actually receive and where to tune them on your box. Once that is complete, you can use the guide to schedule and record any of your stations from your cable box.
post #247 of 431
I would like to post an update to my previous post where when using the HDMI output the player would lock up.

After replacing my 37" Sceptre TV (PS failure) the HDMI output works perfect with my older Panasonic 32" LCD TV. I just realized that my Panasonic had an HDMI input otherwise I would have tested this configuration a long time ago.

What threw me off was the fact that my Sceptre worked with other HDMI player devices and I was convinced the problem was with the Toshiba player.

At least I can verify that the Toshiba player and the Sceptre 37" LCD tv are definitely not compatible with each other using HDMI.
post #248 of 431
I have the HDMI ERR-3C occur fairly regularly. My xs54 is connected via HDMI -> DVI cable into the DVI input on my Sammy HLN467 DLP. If there is a momentary power outage or if someone switches the TV input to Component (antenna/video/DVI are all fine), the ERR-3C message will display and the HDMI/DVI output will not work. Usually, I can correct it by some combination of switching from HDD/DVD, playing a DVD, and switching between DVI and video.

On this set, digital signals into s-video and component are very substandard...this appears to be an issue with the Sammy and not with the xs54 as based on numerous units over the past few years...that being said, the 720p upsampled output to DVI matches very nicely with the Sammy. Since we only have analog cable, which looks better in Video mode than S-Video/DVI on that TV, the HDMI/DVI output is used mainly for prerecorded DVDs.

There are two other issues I experience from time to time.
1. Every so often (weeks to months), it will stop reading in clean DVDs, storebought or otherwise. Once this occurs, all discs fail to load. A simple pulling of the plug and replugging corrects this issue, though it takes a few minutes for the unit to reinitialize...no data gets lost (assuming you are not recording at that moment) and it recovers without issue.

2. On Cox (FL Gulf Coast), both times I reset the unit it took approximately two weeks before TVGOS data appeared. Since the second time, I have not had the data dropoff, but typically only have 2 to 5 days of shows. We keep the 3 hr shutdown enabled to ensure power is off most nights/days for at least 6 - 12 hrs.

Manual recording is available, of course, but the unit is very crippled without TVGOS data since the ease of recording, organizing, etc. are dependent on it. The menu is horribly slow to navigate, but knowing the shortcuts (such as hours/channel jumping) makes it tolerable.

I am debating presently whether or not to get a second xs54 unit for another room. On one hand, we are now quite familiar and are overall very happy with the unit. On the flip side, the TVGOS issues and inability to record HD are shortfalls. That being said, I do not like cable boxes and much prefer being able to choose a DVR unit of my liking, but the tradeoff is not being able to get HD, HD recording, and Cox's integrated guide. Since digital cable would likely result in loss of the TVGOS functionality, straddling these choices is not too likely.

I had hoped by now that Toshiba would have put out a unit which did bridge these gaps, but the 55 doesn't seem a significant enough improvement. OTA reception is also not an option.
post #249 of 431
I have the 55, and I use OTA signals only, and I feed my HDMI input to an HP LC3200N (32" LCD). I have never had any issues with the HDMI input getting into an error condition. So I suspect the Samsung more than the Toshiba is your problem, especially with what you have said about the Samsung.

TVGOS pulls in my guide reliably, overnight. And my PBS station which provides the TVGOS data doesn't even have good reception, although it *is* watchable.

Maybe the cable signal is too noisy to get good TVGOS data. Do you have an OTA TVGOS signal you could try for a test?
post #250 of 431
Nope...local channels are very limited without antennas (which aren't allowed since cable and dish are). I know of one room with noise that required correction, but in that room, the signal is very good across virtually all channels. In the analog lineup, PBS is 9, but I did not see how I could "influence" it to sync up with TVGOS.

Ross
post #251 of 431
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Originally Posted by rpgoldberg View Post

1. Every so often (weeks to months), it will stop reading in clean DVDs, storebought or otherwise. Once this occurs, all discs fail to load. A simple pulling of the plug and replugging corrects this issue, though it takes a few minutes for the unit to reinitialize...no data gets lost (assuming you are not recording at that moment) and it recovers without issue.

Manual recording is available, of course, but the unit is very crippled without TVGOS data since the ease of recording, organizing, etc. are dependent on it. The menu is horribly slow to navigate, but knowing the shortcuts (such as hours/channel jumping) makes it tolerable.

Ross - What shortcuts do you know about hour and channel jumping? Any information you may have would be very helpful. The ability to move ahead by 24 hours on the TVGOS would be great news.

On your issue one, I have the same problem with reading discs. I can normally play with the disc in the drawer before you insert it and it will sometimes fix the problem. My guess is that the disc is not seating properly. If that doesn't fix the problem, you can use the hard reset (hold the power button in for 10 seconds) to solve the problem. That is easier than trying to unplug the unit and has the same results.

I've also noticed that the XS54 will not take some manufactories DVD-R discs. I purchased a 25 pack of blank TDKs and not a single one would the XS54 read properly. I always get a disc failure to read and an error message that the disc is dirty or damaged. However, I can insert the same disc into my Panasonic recorder and they will work every time. I've purchased a cheap pack of 50 DVD-R by NexxTech and EVERY single disc reads just fine. So the XS54 can be touchy on the discs you use.

I've also experienced the HDMI ERR-3c. I'm also using an HDMI to DVI cable but to a Sony TV. My problem seems to occur when the TV is NOT on before the XS54 unit which puts the two machines out of sync on the HDMI. If I turn on the TV before the XS54 so its sees the HDMI -DVI from the TV when it comes up and turn off the XS54 before the TV then I don't seem to have the problem. I've always been able to reset the error using the manual instructions of pressing the DISPLAY button on the remote control.
post #252 of 431
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Originally Posted by Kenni_o View Post

What shortcuts do you know about hour and channel jumping? Any information you may have would be very helpful. The ability to move ahead by 24 hours on the TVGOS would be great news...

From the TVGOS Listings screen just key in 24 (or any other number) from the remote. You will be prompted to go to a channel or forwards/backwards that number of hours.
post #253 of 431
Just discovered this machine and started doing research on the 54/55. Two questions:
1. Does anybody know if the Toshiba will play DVD-RAM discs recorded on a Panny DVD recorder?
2. Someone asked earlier whether it was possible to use a wireless network with this machine. It's been a while, and the new 55 is out, so is there any update on that question?
thx
post #254 of 431
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Originally Posted by Me3 View Post

From the TVGOS Listings screen just key in 24 (or any other number) from the remote. You will be prompted to go to a channel or forwards/backwards that number of hours.

Me3 - Great! Thanks for the info.
post #255 of 431
I see that me3 already answered the jump-ahead...as for the hard reset, I hadn't tried that when the disc issue does crop up, so I will need to give that a try next time. I know it isn't a seating issue, nor a dirty/scratched disc issue since I do check for that first...when it goes into failed disc mode, it occurs with every disc tried until the reset, and then it is perfectly fine once the unit comes back up.

On the HDMI -> DVI, pressing Display does clear the error, but at least in my case, when you switch to DVI and then play a disc, it is not necessarily corrected...whatever combination does fix the err-3c, once that HDMI blue light is back on, everything is good. I had thought at one point that pressing display was also the magic fix but then realized that wasn't the case with my set.

I have yet to decide on the other TV...I really want to give digital a try for the additional channels, but dislike the channel boxes and am doubtful that I would get channel updates with or without hooking up the IR changer. This has kept me from getting another 54 or a 55, since I don't want my dvr/dvd unit to become guideless...it severely reduces functionality without the guide, and the ability to burn to dvd is a HUGE plus.

Decisions, decisions....

Ross
post #256 of 431
Is anybody using the "Internet Connection" effectively?
I'm considering this unit vs. the Pio 640 and the Panny EH55S.
The only advantage I see to the Toshiba is that you can e-mail the unit to schedule a recording. Is anybody actually doing this? If so - how well does it work? What else can you do with the internet connection?

Also - does anybody have any pros/cons of the XS55 vs the Pio 640 and the Panny EH55S?

Thanks!!!
post #257 of 431
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Originally Posted by kgrayAVS View Post

...Also - does anybody have any pros/cons of the XS55 vs the Pio 640 and the Panny EH55S?

Thanks!!!

I can't compare them but after having the Toshiba RD-XS55 for over two months, I can't find anything negative to say about it. I am truly satisfied with this unit!
post #258 of 431
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Originally Posted by wdsnls View Post

I can't compare them but after having the Toshiba RD-XS55 for over two months, I can't find anything negative to say about it. I am truly satisfied with this unit!

Are you using the "internet connection"? Have you e-mailed the unit to schedule a recording? How's that working out?

Also - Have you used TVGOS? If so - how's it working?

Thanks!
post #259 of 431
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Originally Posted by kgrayAVS View Post

Are you using the "internet connection"? Have you e-mailed the unit to schedule a recording? How's that working out?

Also - Have you used TVGOS? If so - how's it working?

Thanks!

No, I have never used the "internet connection" and doubt I would ever have use for it. I have the TVGOS set up via the tuner but I always use manual schedulings via Line Input #1, which is fed from my digital cable box. I prefer manual scheduling as then I know it's correct.
post #260 of 431
Ok, here's the situation: My Sammy DLP (HLN467) has a single DVI input, currently used by my RD-XS54SU. The Sammy's component inputs are ok, but not great...less than ideal with this DVR, but great via DVI.

However, there is a digital channel I want, along with the ability to edit and record to DVD.

My line of thought...I can get the digital along with the 8300HD (Sci Atl) to provide digital and HD. However, this would require the DVI input as well for best quality, and there is only one input on my set. Output appears to support going from the Sci Atl to standard SD on the RD-XS54SU using one of the three component outputs on the set in conjunction with standard audio out (W/R). Again, a conflict occurs with digital out since my Denon receiver only has one digital input which is already being used by the RD-XS54SU.

Options likely include switch devices to support both but there is no doubt the two DVRs would be highly redundant. The second issue is that since a digital gateway must be used, can the line be divided to give an analog feed to the RD-XS54SU which is the only way I can get the TVGOS data or is that not an option? Cox indicates that the specific jack must be activated and thus I'm not sure where such a device would be placed, but my interpretation is that it may make a split before the box for analog support a non-option. The next closest analog jack is too distant for consideration.

The last option is to relegate the RD-XS54SU to the secondary TV which would remain analog, but that would still not solve the issue of recording, editing, and burning. Even if that option were chosen, I would still need to get a DVD or DVD Recorder for the digital hookup and would still have the single DVI and single digital sound input hookup limitations to deal with.

Finally, if I were able to get the analog cable feed to the RD-XS54SU but digital to the cox box in the same room, I could presumably use the IR device to handle recording from digital feeds using the input, correct? Here again, I still have the issue though of the single DVI and digital sound inputs.

I'm hoping some of you have had to contend with some or all of these issues and have workarounds you can suggest?
post #261 of 431
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Originally Posted by elgibby View Post

Just discovered this machine and started doing research on the 54/55. Two questions:
1. Does anybody know if the Toshiba will play DVD-RAM discs recorded on a Panny DVD recorder?
2. Someone asked earlier whether it was possible to use a wireless network with this machine. It's been a while, and the new 55 is out, so is there any update on that question?
thx

Elgibby - Sorry its taken me awhile to get back to your question (vacation time). I can confirm that a DVD-RAM recorded on a Penny recorder will play on the Toshiba XS54. I've done it using a Panny DMR-ES10. There was not problems moving the recorded RAM over to the XS54. It played just fine. Now I've not check the opposite direct but would assume it would work just a well. I hope that answers your question about compability of the RAM recordings.
post #262 of 431
Can anybody please help me with this??

I got this RD XS 54 about a month ago, I am able to view the remote control and turn it on/off, change channels, and everything else within my network ( Using a D Link 2 XR router (DI-634M). I forwarded several ports 8000, 8800, 2000, when I try to view contents on DVD from outside my network, I am able to see the menu and the remote on the right, but anywhere I click, nothing happends, the remote does not show the red nor the green light, I also tried a feature that this router has, that allowes one pc to be viewed outside the network, that did not work neither. I'm a technical specialist for Road Runner in the network department, I have 2 IP addresses and my speeds are 15 Megs down and 2 up. I installed a hub and I have now the RD XS 54 going to a Netgear router, changed the port to the default one (80) on the DVD and set the port forwarding to the IP address that I have reserved for it on the router, and I still cannnot use the Net MOnitor feature, I am able to click in all the tabs, but nothing happends, I gave it enough time also to make sure is not a loading issue. Please help!

Thanks

Tico from Tampa FL
post #263 of 431
Tico, I'd love to be able to help, but might need insight from you to get that far...I have a DI-620 (or 624?) which I may replace. However, I had attempted using a wall insert for wireless connectivity since my unit is nowhere near the location of the router. It failed miserably...couldn't get DHCP and couldn't force an address. Are there any decent wireless options and/or will only the game-type wireless routers work? I do use both wired and wireless connections, the latter with stronger encryption/password protection. I would love to get my 54 online within the house, for email receipt, and/or for viewing. You are one of few I know of who actually got networking features to work...please shed additional insight and/or PM me.

Thanks,
Ross
post #264 of 431
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Originally Posted by tico01 View Post

Can anybody please help me with this??

I am able to see the menu and the remote on the right

Tico from Tampa FL

Tico - Seems you have managed to get the Toshiba to talk with a PC. I've tried both straight connect and with a Wireless Linksys router but I can not get the first Toshiba screen to display. I've got a connection to the recorder, as I can ping it and can see a number of packet received from the Toshiba. But when I launch IE to connect and enter the RD-XS54 as the address, I get a small Micosoft login screen that says "server rd-xs54 at RD-XS54 requires a username and password" then a place to enter your ID and Password. I've put in the ID and Password that I entered on the Toshiba setup screen, but after a few seconds the screen updates and just returns the same request again and again. Its like its rejecting the ID or Password. The manual does not indicate you will get the Microsoft screen but will instead get a Toshiba screen where you can enter the ID and Password. Do you see the same login problem or just go directly to the Toshiba screen? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken (Ocala, Fl)
post #265 of 431
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Originally Posted by Kenni_o View Post

I've got a connection to the recorder, as I can ping it and can see a number of packet received from the Toshiba. But when I launch IE to connect and enter the RD-XS54 as the address, I get a small Micosoft login screen that says "server rd-xs54 at RD-XS54 requires a username and password" then a place to enter your ID and Password. I've put in the ID and Password that I entered on the Toshiba setup screen, but after a few seconds the screen updates and just returns the same request again and again. Its like its rejecting the ID or Password.

I don't have your setup, but I get the same "bounce-back" from login sites when I have my IE Security set too high. I run at "Custom" level (High) and often forget to turn Security down to Medium (or list the site as a Trusted Site), which then allows me to log in.
post #266 of 431
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Originally Posted by wabjxo View Post

I don't have your setup, but I get the same "bounce-back" from login sites when I have my IE Security set too high. I run at "Custom" level (High) and often forget to turn Security down to Medium (or list the site as a Trusted Site), which then allows me to log in.

Wabjxo - Thanks for the reply! I thought about the security too. It was set at Custom but moved the Local Internet setting down to low but that didn't help. I can supply my setup details if you think it would help. I left the name at RD-XS54, supplied a user name and password and made the group password the same as the user password. Because I can't get the ID and Password to be accepted, I've tried changing them several times but without any change in the results.

I'm using Windows XP home on HP laptop. I used the Toshiba instructions for the setup so here is what I've done:

Direct Connect:
Used the crossconnect cable provided with the following settings;
Address / Proxy - Manual - IP Address=100.100.100.1, Submask=255.255.255.0, Default Gateway=169.254.221.35, DNS=2.2.2.2

I also connected a wireless Linksys router and set everything to Auto. I used 2 straight cables to the router, Toshiba and PC, but still got the same results. I then removed the PC cable and went wirless, all with the same results. So I'm scratching my head on this one. It just looks like the Toshiba is telling MS that it needs a user id and password but will not accept it from MS when you supply it. Is there another way to access the Toshiba without using IE as the interface? Thanks for any help you can provide!!!
post #267 of 431
Kenni_o, I can't help w/your setup except to suggest a couple of things w/IE and connection to the Toshiba:

1. Try setting the Toshiba's "web" address as a Trusted Site (*.name.com) with Medium or Low Security.

2. If your running Windows Live OneCare or other Firewall app. check its settings. OneCare has "Advanced" settings for its Firewall and one tab for Programs to allow or disallow, and another tab for Ports and Prototcols. Other Firewalls have similar settings. The Ports and Protocols is where you may have a problem and may need to "consult the app. instructions" for a specific port or protocol to run for the Toshiba connection?

You can enter the Toshiba connection as a program that should be allowed and set your Firewall to always prompt you before stopping a connection, which will stop the Firewall from automatically and "silently" blocking a program your connection may need.

P.S. Even if you're running the std Windows Firewall, there are settings and Exceptions you probably need to make to allow you to connect to the Toshiba?

Just for good measure, delete all your Cookies, Temp. Internet Files, and History before trying to log in again.
post #268 of 431
Toshiba's website is not very clear on what the differences are between the RD-XS54 and the RD-XS55. Can anyone explain this?
post #269 of 431
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Originally Posted by wabjxo View Post

Kenni_o, I can't help w/your setup except to suggest a couple of things w/IE and connection to the Toshiba:

Wabjxo - Just a quick note to say I solved my networking problem and its due to your reply message. I started thinking about the Internet Explorer setting as you mentioned and figured I should check different Internet browsers. I do some beta verification with Microsoft software releases and have been using their new Internet browser (IE-7). I have the newly released version on my laptop. So I connected my RD-XS54 to my desktop PC that still has the older Microsoft browser (IE-6) installed. My network problem went away as soon as I connected. So the home networking problem was with the new Microsoft IE-7 browser and not with the Toshiba setting or unit. I continued to check other browsers, Netscape and Foxfire, and both work just fine with the RD-XS54. So to network the RD-XS54 you need to use Microsoft IE-6, Netscape, or Foxfire as your browser.

So in summary, any Toshiba users trying to network their unit with a PC or Home Network, the Microsoft Internet Explorer IE-7 will NOT interface with the Toshiba RD-XS54 recorder. If you are currently networked and plan to switch to the new Microsoft browser, expect your network connect to fail.
post #270 of 431
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Originally Posted by ericlhyman View Post

Toshiba's website is not very clear on what the differences are between the RD-XS54 and the RD-XS55. Can anyone explain this?


I own the RD-XS55 and never had the 54.But it appears that the 55 firmware is the latest. The 55 is able to connect with Satellite box, network connections are more stable, fan is quieter and all black color.
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