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post #2041 of 2202
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

This series was produced by people who worked on "The X-Files" so they know how to keep a series going. It's one of the few weekly series that doesn't bore me.

I don't think citing The X-Files is actually a good argument for keeping the show going. TXF was gasping for air before it crawled to the end and should have been ended years before. Carter had several opportunities to end the show gracefully. From the Black Oil arc that was just being made up as he went, to Duchovny vanishing intermittently, then Anderson following suit ... it was just floundering and barely able to justify its existence as it lurched from one year to the next not knowing who would be in the cast or if the black oil would ever make any sense. If the show had brought in Patrick and Gish much earlier and made a clean break with Duchovny and Anderson it would have been a lot more cohesive and a lot more entertaining to watch.

At least Supernatural has the original duo, but there is no way I would want this show to go down the same road of TXF just to keep it going.
post #2042 of 2202
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Originally Posted by ltownsend View Post

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
It would have been the perfect closure.
Heaven and Hell completely locked down...a great way to end the series.wink.gif
post #2043 of 2202
I think they could have done that, and still show them rebuilding the MoL bunker up to take over Bobby's role, and given an "Angel"-like ending with hunters heading out to take on some case. That would set the stage for potential movies, or even a later TV re-start with another cast as the front line Hunters. Though it would be nice for the writers/rights owners to clean up the mythology and consistency to pass on to any of those follow-ups.

v/r,
C-F
post #2044 of 2202
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I don't think citing The X-Files is actually a good argument for keeping the show going. TXF was gasping for air before it crawled to the end and should have been ended years before. Carter had several opportunities to end the show gracefully. From the Black Oil arc that was just being made up as he went, to Duchovny vanishing intermittently, then Anderson following suit ... it was just floundering and barely able to justify its existence as it lurched from one year to the next not knowing who would be in the cast or if the black oil would ever make any sense. If the show had brought in Patrick and Gish much earlier and made a clean break with Duchovny and Anderson it would have been a lot more cohesive and a lot more entertaining to watch.

At least Supernatural has the original duo, but there is no way I would want this show to go down the same road of TXF just to keep it going.

It's that the late Kim Manners had experience as well as the current producers. Sometimes I look at Supernatural as the X-Files with two brothers. Experience in serial television is everything. Fail and the cancel button gets pressed.
post #2045 of 2202
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

Metatron didn't close heaven. He just expelled all the angels from access as angels by essentially kicking them out of the angel corp in the way that Lucifer was kicked out back in the day.

Heaven itself is still open for business... it's just that right now, the only known ways to get into heaven are:

1. Be an Angel
2. Die having earned your way to heaven as a good soul.

Had Metatron closed heaven, then there would be no way back into heaven... so he didn't do that. He just rid the world of angels basically so the only way into heaven now is to be good and die.

I disagree that is what he actually did. Guess we won't know for sure until next season to see what really happened.
post #2046 of 2202
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I disagree that is what he actually did. Guess we won't know for sure until next season to see what really happened.

No... Metatron even said as much.

Kevin was translating the tablet and said that the trials for closing heaven (like closing hell) didn't involve any of the stuff that Castiel was being asked to do.

Meanwhile, Castiel confronted Metatron and Metatron admitted he wasn't closing heaven... he was instead evicting everyone from heaven. That's basically the opposite of closing heaven, since everyone would be invited back in when they die again... and Metatron wanted to hear the stories.
post #2047 of 2202
The CW Developing Supernatural Spin-Off
By Kimberly Roots, TVLine.com - Jul. 21, 2013

Angels aren’t the only heavenly things coming our way in Supernatural‘s ninth season.

The CW is developing a spin-off of the long-running drama, TVLine has confirmed. Executive producer Bob Singer first announced the project during a press event at Comic-Con on Sunday.

Details are few and far between right now — it’s still early in the process — but here’s what we’ve gleaned: A new character will be introduced in or around Episode 20 (which will serve as a planted pilot for the new show). That character will then anchor the spin-off.

While the Winchesters are fond of running around the great outdoors, we’re hearing that the new endeavor will have a more citified feel.

The network is, of course, launching another spin-off of a wildly popular otherworldly drama this fall with the Vampire Diaries offshoot The Originals.

Sam and Dean will be back in Supernatural‘s Season 9 premiere, Tuesday, Oct. 15 at 9/8c.

http://tvline.com/2013/07/21/supernatural-spin-off-cw/
post #2048 of 2202
Very interesting....thanx for the link.
post #2049 of 2202
For those not paying attention (I.e. me) the new season starts tonight.
post #2050 of 2202
Just noticed that as well! Thanks!
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post #2052 of 2202
Dean was in a tight spot. I don't think anyone out there thought he wouldn't do what he did. And we can bet the Zeke is not what he claims to be. It would be a pleasant plot twist if that is not true but this is Supernatural.
post #2053 of 2202
So nice to see Death and Bobby again. I enjoyed this season opener
post #2054 of 2202
Great opener and it did well in the ratings last night. Castiel's story line looks promising!
post #2055 of 2202
My first semi-live viewing. Finally caught up to most of the world. Great opening--nice to see Helo, even if the accent was a little odd for me.
post #2056 of 2202
The girl angel stole my car too. I couldn't figure out what the Forester kept showing up in the background until they stole it.
post #2057 of 2202
I'm inclined to believe Ezekiel is who is presented himself to be... why? because that would EXACTLY be a Supernatural way of doing things. Think about it...

Dean is torn about finding a way to save Sam and compromising what he thinks Sam would want... but Castiel vouches for Ezekiel and he sees Sam about to give up and feels he has no choice.

Now, eventually Sam will find out that Dean saved him by giving permission for an angel to possess him... and Sam will be pissed. But, if this was just a bad-guy-takes-over-Sam storyline then Sam would be justifiably pissed AND Dean would feel guilty. BUT the Supernatural twist would be... Ezekiel really is a good angel and as such, Sam will still be pissed but not have as much basis for that anger AND Dean will be defiant rather than guilty because he will know/feel he did the right thing in trusting Ezekiel.

It basically sets up the way these things usually setup to give both characters a "righteous anger" and yet still let them be at odds. IF Ezekiel is bad, then that doesn't fuel the brothers being pissed at each other because they will be on the same side more easily... thus less conflict.

I am curious, though... what happens to Ezekiel... will he be someone they keep around (maybe Tamoh comes back too?) or will he be a throwaway character at some point in the season.
post #2058 of 2202
Just how stupid are these angels? Can they really be THAT dense? Girl angel is in a broken body yelling at Cas to take her to Disneyland, or the Grand Canyon, or just take her with him. She threatens him with telling all the other angels about his location if he doesn't comply. BUT, he has the angel blade in his hand the whole time. She blames him for the deaths of how many angels, yet she continues to threaten him. Does it never occur to her that he'll have to kill her? Man, how stupid are these angels?rolleyes.gif
post #2059 of 2202
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

Just how stupid are these angels? Can they really be THAT dense? Girl angel is in a broken body yelling at Cas to take her to Disneyland, or the Grand Canyon, or just take her with him. She threatens him with telling all the other angels about his location if he doesn't comply. BUT, he has the angel blade in his hand the whole time. She blames him for the deaths of how many angels, yet she continues to threaten him. Does it never occur to her that he'll have to kill her? Man, how stupid are these angels?rolleyes.gif
Pretty certain the blade was in her lap, in fact, I don't think he had one anymore.




And then he notices that she is not wearing her seat belt, he puts his own on and then he jerks the steering wheel. Maybe he cannot touch the blade if it is on or about her person and crashing the car allowed him to get the blade.
Edited by keenan - 10/10/13 at 10:31am
post #2060 of 2202
The blade was in her lap until after the crash... there is no magic there... just like any other hostage situation, you might be able to grab the weapon before the hostage-taker... but you might not... so creating the crash gets Castiel the advantage.

Then... she is rather brazen to continue threatening him, once she is broken there on the ground and Castiel is approaching her and has picked up the weapon from where it landed after the crash.

They haven't exactly established where Angels go when they die by the sword... do they get destroyed forever? Also, as Dean wondered aloud... where do the expelled angels go... when he used the blood-symbol to eject them from the hospital I think it used to send them back to heaven... but they can't go back to heaven anymore... so is that an end-around? OR does that now kill them too?
post #2061 of 2202
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

... OR does that now kill them too?
Sam and Dean with a set of sigil tambourines would be WAY too easy... maybe if they do not find this out until some deus ex machina moment.

v/r,
C-F
post #2062 of 2202
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Originally Posted by CANNON-FODDER View Post

Sam and Dean with a set of sigil tambourines would be WAY too easy... maybe if they do not find this out until some deus ex machina moment.

'course... for as long as Ezekiel is inhabiting Sam to heal him... Dean can't use the sigil method to get rid of angels... and he'll have to come up with an explanation for Sam at some point I suspect as to why he can't do that.
post #2063 of 2202
He would just tell Sam to do it wouldn't he? Didn't Castiel use it?

v/r,
C-F
post #2064 of 2202
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Originally Posted by CANNON-FODDER View Post

He would just tell Sam to do it wouldn't he? Didn't Castiel use it?

I can't remember Castiel using that one... I suppose it could be immunity to the one casting it... so maybe Sam could do it and Ezekiel would be safe... but even at that, Dean would likely have to explain something.
post #2065 of 2202
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Originally Posted by CANNON-FODDER View Post

He would just tell Sam to do it wouldn't he? Didn't Castiel use it?

v/r,
C-F

Yeah, he did, but it had the same effect on him that it did on the other angels.
post #2066 of 2202
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

Yeah, he did, but it had the same effect on him that it did on the other angels.

Thanks... I couldn't remember, but that is what I figured would happen. So back to my earlier thought... Dean has to make sure Sam never does it... and Dean can't do it in Sam's presence... so eventually with all the angels coming for them, Dean will have to tell Sam something.
post #2067 of 2202
Another strong outing tonight. I do wish they would focus more on "The Men of Letters" stuff, seems like there is a ton of stuff they could mine from that. In fact it might be worthy of a spin off.
post #2068 of 2202
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Originally Posted by Matt L View Post

Another strong outing tonight. I do wish they would focus more on "The Men of Letters" stuff, seems like there is a ton of stuff they could mine from that. In fact it might be worthy of a spin off.

Couldn't agree more, said so last season, the men of letters and the bunker is the most interesting thing they have done on this show in a LONG time.
post #2069 of 2202
Yep, I'm pining for more Letter stories too. Same old old.

Not impressed so far this season. It's still dragging around stories and characters who ran out of steam long ago, or in the case of Kevin just plain annoying. Plus they dug out the ghost of Bobby yet again. The show must really be regretting killing off Bobby with the amount of times they keep exhuming his corpse. I know I am. It's completely diluted his death episode now.

I've also noticed the routine that afflicts Sam and Dean. Dean will always be the one who gets banished to another dimension or plane and Sam will always be the one who gets taken over or possessed. How many times is it now that Sam has been ferrying around some other being? I'm beginning to think Jared has a contractual obligation that each other season he must be given the opportunity to play a different character.

But they did find a replacement for Jo in Daisy Duke. I expect the CW wanted more girl power in the show but it works for the guys too. wink.gif
post #2070 of 2202
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

They haven't exactly established where Angels go when they die by the sword... do they get destroyed forever? Also, as Dean wondered aloud... where do the expelled angels go... when he used the blood-symbol to eject them from the hospital I think it used to send them back to heaven... but they can't go back to heaven anymore... so is that an end-around? OR does that now kill them too?

Purgatory is still open. If it accepts monsters there is no reason to think it wouldn't take fallen angels. Since most of the angels we see are bloodthirsty psychos who kill people anyway they should qualify for a trip downstairs too.
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