>>The Official Mitsubishi 1080p DLP Owners Thread<< - Page 8

When I tested I set the game up for multiplayer at Circuit City. I had it connected via Component input. I tried split screen and playing against another guy there in the store and I had him exit so I could go into a multiplayer game where I was the only person (I wanted to see full screen). In both cases I could feel the lag when strafing right to left there was delay in the motion. I can see how some might get used to this but I could not. I play online and you already have to deal with lag issues when someone else is hosting. I also took a sniper, zoomed far away and then pulled the stick to the right or the left to see how quickly it moved and how easy it was to stop and shoot at the right spot. Again, I felt like there was lag in the movement. I have a friend who owns a Toshiba DLP and he said he adjusted to the latency. To each their own. To me it wasn't acceptable with any of the DLPs that I tried.

I hooked up a PC to mine via the VGA port. It looks pretty sweet at 1920x1080. It is true 1080p. It says so right on the screen info. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get it to fill up the whole screen. It has about a 2 inch black border all around the picture.

-Bryan

Can someone tell me how to turn off the TV guide feature on the 62628. Also what is the MSRP of the 73927 ? and what are they going for ?

There is no stretch mode for the VGA port. Not that I have found yet anyway.

-Bryan

Another question (that I haven't yet heard the answer to): does the problem I've heard discussed about the TV Guide and the Mits tuner also apply to the TV Guide that comes throught the Comcast (cable) stb, where the Mits tuner is not involved? Or is it only a problem when using th Mits internal tuner?

1. The Mit 73727 was delivered yesterday morning around 11 a.m. I was surprised how quick the delivery guys were, especially dragging my Sony 61XBR (4x3) out the back.
No setup by the guys other than to turn it on. At first, the green light kept blinking. After calling his office, the delivery guy hit the reset button and it still kept blinking. We unplugged the set and hit the reset button again and it came on.

2. No sooner did the delivery guys leave, then the Directv installer showed up minus the on air antenna. After a bunch of wrangling and calling the retention office of Directv, the HiDef Tivo was installed. The installer finally got the Tivo working but would not call his office, talk to the Directv retention staff on the phone and generally carried out a rope a dope attitude.

3. However, this was quickly forgotten after viewing the picture on the Mit DLP -- very impressive.

4. After playing around with the settings, it became apparent to me that you could easily mess up the picture for SD and had more latitude with a HiDef signal.

5. It appears to me that the various settings some have posted reflect the wide range of visual preferences. That said, Hyabusha's settings worked best for me with a couple of amendments. I still have not tried out the Avia or DVE discs because the picture is pretty good right now.

6. Here are the settings, I am using:
Perfect color=Manual
Magenta 29
Red 28
Yellow, Green, Cyan, Blue 31

Deep field Imager=On
Sharpedge=Off
Color Temp=Low
Natural
Contrast=32
Brightness=37
Color=25
Tint=32
Sharpness=13
Video Noise = Standard

7. Finally, after watching the set for a few minutes, I noticed a high pitch sound coming from the back of the set -- particularly from the left side (facing the TV). I called the dearler and someone is supposed to come out and check it early this week. The shrill sound disminished a fair amount later in the afternoon. However, it still is there but substantially lower than it sounded the first hour. No idea what this is.
I stopped by the store today and observed that there was a similar high pitch noise coming from the left side of the TV in the store. It was lower in sound than in my home.

Other than this issue, the set has been great.

It depends on whether, your TV Guide is "on" or "off" in the Mit's set. If it is "on" then you will most likely have problems....if it is "off" and you are using a "guide" system of any kind provided by the cable company then you should not have any problems at all, AND you will still be able to use the Mit's internal turners for OTA without a hitch. It is only after the TV Guide system in turned "on" in the Mit's that the set becomes possessed (with or without cable service).

Note on TV Guide........if you have used your set with TV Guide at ANY time "on".........you can confirm if it has messed up your tuner by going to "Channel View" listing and reviewing all the channels listed, and tuning each one from that screen.......your are looking for incorrect channel numbers, duplicates, and triplicates, etc. Also, If you manually dial a station (like 11-1) and it takes you to another (like 8-1 but the screen says it is 11-1 but it is not)............then the ONLY way to get rid of the problems created by TV Guide is to do a Full Reset of the TV. Essentially, the longer you use your set with TV Guide "on" the more screwed up (and slower) it gets. Often after about 5 days or so, you can not tune to any channel.

Also, go to the "Channels" under "Net Command" and scroll through all the channels manually, to confirm all is correct, and manually tune each station you want to receive from that screen to confirm you actually get that station and not another. Remember the screen channel number may say channel 39-1 at the top of the picture, but the picture you are receiveing could be from channel 2-1.............this is because the two table listings (channel view- the real tuner listing in the Mit's set vs. TV Guide listing) had not been kept in sync........that is, the Mit's software is not able to keep TV guide from setting up incorrect, conflicting channel, duplicate channel number assignments. Your first sign that things are going crazy may be that the set becomes slower and slower over the days while you are trying to tune stations, until it can no longer tune stations or it constantly serves up the wrong station.

So even though you have turned TV Guide "off" the TV set still pulls information form both "listings" (channel view and TV Guide) in the set............thus the only way to get rid of the bad data is a full reset of the TV and leave the TV guide "off".

btw, the current software in my set is: V30 007.02

Thanks much--I think I get it this time!

so someones best bet would be to unpack their new TV, plug it in, turn it on and go straight to TV Guide and disable it?

That's what I did. I haven't had any issues.

When it comes right out of the box, it is in the "off" setting..........as you go through "set up" you are asked if you want to turn it "on"............

Oh ok, great! During setup when asked just say no and never turn it on.

[quote=JTAnderson]I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, but if you mean that they all accept 1080p input, you are (sort of) wrong.

I don't think that 1080p30 is a valid ATSC format, so I doubt the sets could handle it even if you created such a transport stream and piped in in via 1394.

I know 1080p60 is not a valid ATSC format. See previous comment.

None of the sets will accept 1080p60 via component or HDMI (at least according to the spec sheets).
QUOTE]

Good info JT. A ATSC link I had previously found, 1080p24 and 1080p30 are recognized ATSC formats.

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html

I have the HR10-250 TiVo, and for SD I think the best way is this. I change the resolution, through the TiVo box to 480, then use the (can't remember exactly which one it is) 480 wide or 480 expand. Which ever one I use, it doesn't distort or have a wave in the picture. Anyway, after that I "zoom" to fill the screen and it is a pretty liveable SD picture. I usually only hassle with this for SD Football, or something I know I will be watching for more than an hour without changing the channel.

I leave Sharp Edge, and everything else, set to on. I do use the "natural" setting though.

Where in the menu is the "hour life" reading?

What is the vertical frame rate set to in the PC?

Can we talk about DVD players for a minute? I know there is a forum dedicated to them but I would like to start here because if, or more likely when I buy my 62628 I would like to get a DVD player at the same time.

right now I have a cheap DVD player from Walmart. I started to look into them a little but don't know really where to start since I've seen prices from $50 all the way to $1500! As a starting point I would like to spend around $300. Can you even get a decent player for that amount? I also know that I will need to hook up the DVD player to my new tv via a HDMI cable.

What are some other "MUST HAVE" features that will compliment the 62628? I have heard upscaling thrown around a bit. Do I need a DVD player that "upscales" or is it better to let the 62628 to that.

Good idea to start talking about dvd players. The Oppo, at $199 and with great reviews, seems like a good choice, and the Sony 975 for ~$300 seems also be a good possibility. I have a Denon 2910 that I will stand pat with, though at ~$600 I would not get it now if I didn't already have it.

I did buy a new DVD player when I bought my TV. It is a Panasonic, the models is S-77 or S-777, or something close to it. Retail it was 269.00. I bought it because it does have HDMI output.

My prior DVD player did not have digital output, and I wanted something with at least component, so what the heck. I did not research it or anything. All I know is reading the manual must be similar to reading the manual for operating the space shuttle. They assume you will use this remote to run all electronics, and the microwave.

You hit Tv Menu then 2 - 4 - 7 - 0. Hit Home to escape out or you could reset your timer. I believe that's the service menu.

I posted a question early in the thread about the quality of the scaler in the Mits but nobody seemed to have any info on it. So, I'm going on the general assumption that the scaler (might be incorrect word, but I mean the processor that does the deinterlacing and upconverting) in a decent upconverting dvd player is typically better than the scalers in any TV set. I got that info from the dvd board. This means for me to get the best picture, I'm gonna need an upconverting player, not just a standard progressive scan. I've decided on the Panny s77s upconverting dvd player, again from the reviews/info gotten in the other board, because of the quality of the picture and it's in my price range (I think we can't discuss prices except for MSRP, which is $249).
Although for more thorough review of players, the other board should definitely be read.
If anybody knows if the Mits scaler is of better quality than in the ones found in upconverting dvd players, please let us know. It would definitely save me some money

I knew there was a way to monitor the hours, and I now wish I would have looked at it when I got my TV, just out of curiosity. Since I have only had mine for 3 weeks, I can still get a good idea of how many hours were on it.

Thanks for the info.

so basically I'm looking for a DVD player that is progressive scan, has a scaler/upconverter, and has HDMI output.

I just came back from evaluating the Mits 52628 versus the Sony SXRD. It was a close call but I have to give the edge to the Mits so far. Those two sets both looked much better than the Pioneer plasma. The Mits was 10% less money than the Sony.

My wife and I still havn't bought any kind of HD TV yet. But we're getting closer! We have Comcast cable and we are spoiled by Tivo. Most everything we watch is on Tivo. We don't watch a lot of DVD's. Since Tivo still doesn't have a HD Tivo for cable users yet, I guess we won't buy a HDTV until then. We hate watching commercials. And the Comcast DVR only holds about 10 hours of HD programming. That's not nearly enough. But I hear that day may be coming soon? When it does, I think we've settled for one of these Mits 1080p sets. The picture was gorgeous. Congratulations to you owners. I didn't think anything could beat those Panny and Pioneer plasmas, but the Sony and the Mits beat them easily.

They deliverd my 62628 today! I have to wait until Wednesday for my electronics guy to come set up my Directv system, but if I plug the tv in and buy an OTA attenae I can watch Monday Night Football tonight in HD right?

Which OTA is the best?

Thanks!

That is the Panasonic I have, as I mentioned. I don't watch that many DVD's so I didn't do the research, like I did with the TV. My understanding, and I don't recall/know the techno lingo, but this player, and there are other brands out there too, is faster, or does something better/faster than progressive scan.

How's that for some technical information!!!!

you just sounded like my mom when she has a computer problem!