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post #301 of 5390
It suggests that they have been in business (primarily for home appliance) for over 25 years. I suspect they are trying to broaden out into consumer electronics. I must admit I am sorely tempted by those prices as well. Even if I discount the obvious inconsistency that they can't possibly have them in stock, I am fine with waiting another 30 days to order mine, since that is the expectation I have already resigned myself to.

I saw a poster in another thread also state they had ordered from them (again the smaller model, which we know IS available now), so at least we have two reference points.
post #302 of 5390
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Thanks very much for finding this. (Have looked at these pics for weeks now, and never saw that!) It does describe what you say for the 73927, but oddly this feature is not described in the anologous place for the 73827. Strange, since they both have 2 hd internal tuners. I guess we'll have to wait (again!) until they are here to know for sure.

Regarding your struggle deciding between the 827 and 727, you said earlier it might be worth the extra $ spent. I am thinking along the same lines, but extending it in that if you compare the 727 to the 927, you say "wow, there is a big difference in price, no way I am doing that". When you look at the 827 and 727, you indeed have the dilemma you stated where you say "hmmm, that is more, but not that much, and you get some nifty features".

I submit that if you do that same comparison of the 927 to 827, it is "not that much more", and you get the VGA input and the anti-glare screen (great for kids in the house) along with other features. So whereas the difference between the low and high end is significant, if I have already convinced myself to go to the 827, I do not find it that great a reach to justify the 927 either. I really see the 727 and 927 as the two practical options.

Now if I can just dump PVR stuff off of the HD by i-link or other method as I stated in my other post, I will be ecstatic.
post #303 of 5390
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Originally Posted by eros111 View Post

Bopfer, since you went to this store already, can you tell us what you think of them? Are they for real? If they really have the 73927 at the price they are advertising I'm buying it tomorrow.

I was a little skeptical at first too. Their prices are amazingly low. But, I have nothing bad to say about them. I called and talked to Danny D over there. I told him I was interested in the 62927 and he quoted me the same price as on the website. He said that he can get for me it once I place my order and pay a portion of the price. I paid about $1800 up front. This was on a Friday and he said they would call me around Wednesday to let me know when I can pick it up. They called on Thursday, so a little late, but no big deal. He said I could pick it up on Friday. I went there at 3pm and the truck was just getting there with my TV on it. I paid the balance, loaded it in my truck and I was off. It was in the factory box and everything looked fine to me. So, 1 week from order to driving it home.

Their store is kinda in the ghetto, but it is right off the 110 so you don't have to drive too much on surface streets. I went by myself, but if you are nervous about that I would take a friend with you. The store itself is pretty small. They have about 25 TV's out on display. They have a good size warehouse though. They had a lot of TVs in their boxes stacked up.

I would definitely buy there again.

-Bryan
post #304 of 5390
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Originally Posted by scoombs View Post

you get the VGA input and the anti-glare screen (great for kids in the house) along with other features.

I have the 62927 and I would definitely say the VGA port is worth it. But, I can't speak highly of the protective screen. I don't know how they can call it an Anti-Glare screen. All it did for me was create glare and reflect everyting in the room. It was fine at night as long as their are no lights on. It was unwatchable in the daylight. It was like a mirror with the windows in my room.

I have since removed the screen and I am much happier. I can now watch at any time of the day and with lights on. I will put the screen back on temporarily if I need to move the TV.

-Bryan
post #305 of 5390
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Originally Posted by bopfer View Post

I was a little skeptical at first too. Their prices are amazingly low. But, I have nothing bad to say about them. I called and talked to Danny D over there. I told him I was interested in the 62927 and he quoted me the same price as on the website. He said that he can get for me it once I place my order and pay a portion of the price. I paid about $1800 up front. This was on a Friday and he said they would call me around Wednesday to let me know when I can pick it up. They called on Thursday, so a little late, but no big deal. He said I could pick it up on Friday. I went there at 3pm and the truck was just getting there with my TV on it. I paid the balance, loaded it in my truck and I was off. It was in the factory box and everything looked fine to me. So, 1 week from order to driving it home.

Their store is kinda in the ghetto, but it is right off the 110 so you don't have to drive too much on surface streets. I went by myself, but if you are nervous about that I would take a friend with you. The store itself is pretty small. They have about 25 TV's out on display. They have a good size warehouse though. They had a lot of TVs in their boxes stacked up.

I would definitely buy there again.

-Bryan


Those are awesome prices but I am so scared to order something like this off the net and have it shipped to Texas.
post #306 of 5390
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Originally Posted by Bad LS1 View Post

Those are awesome prices but I am so scared to order something like this off the net and have it shipped to Texas.

My first big screen ever I ordered from Washington state, and had shipped to Washington DC. It showed up in the factory box, with the Sony ES receiver box I had ordered, strapped to the top of it. It worked fine, but like anything in shipping, there can be a risk. It is important to inspect on delivery for any damage, and if there is and you identify it, note it on the bill of lading and it is covered by the shipper. It is no different than if you buy at a B&M, and the delivery guys slip and drop it...5 miles or 5k miles is the same.
post #307 of 5390
Any good link in this thread for a detailed XBOX/PC fast action game "lag" comparision?? For sure the Samsung is not good (100ms).

WHy is this? Are people disabling the processing on the Mits? It just seems odd since all use TI HD4 chipsets

Trying to decide between Sam 61 and 627 vs 628 (wonder if the "better black") is that much better - hard to tell in Fry's
post #308 of 5390
Great comments above: some thoughts,

1) Eros111 By all means, go by Electroline and give us another report on it. I emailed them asking if they really had these 73" sets; even though I won't be getting one from them, it would be good to know if they are being delivered anywhere.

2)scoombs: Re the 73727, 827, or 927, you are right, the price seems to be about an equal increment as you go from one to the other. The 927 has the 'anti-glare' screen, which is actually a 'glary screen', much like the 720p sets of last year; want no part of that. It does have a VGA input which is certainly nice, but if I get into the business of hooking up a computer I can use one of the HDMI inputs, so the VGA is not a big deal for me; similarly, the larger DVR of the 927 doesn't seem very important (to me). So I don't see much gained in going from 827 to 927, at least for things I care about. But it does seem (maybe) that one does gain something useful in going from the 727 to 827, i.e., the 2 hd tuners. (And I think I like the cabinet of the 827 better than the 727, though I haven't seen either.) Anyway, this is my reasoning, for whatever it's worth.
post #309 of 5390
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Hyabusha, and any other lucky 73727 owners:

How is the UNIFORMITY of the light over this big 73" screen? I.e., if you have the 'video mute' on, so that you get a solid blue screen, is it of unifrom brightness over the whole screen, i.e., no 'bright spots', etc.? Would appreciate if you could check this. (It is truly frustrating not being able to get one's hands on these things!)

Just for a second opinion my 73" blue screen is of uniform brightness as well.
post #310 of 5390
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Originally Posted by Bad LS1 View Post

I Googled MB-62628 with no luck.


Sorry, my fault. It should be the MB-62528 if it follows the same numbering scheme as my 52" TV stand did: WD-52628 = MB-52528 (black). The 527 is silver to match the 52627 TV, etc, etc.
post #311 of 5390
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Great comments above: some thoughts,

1) Eros111 By all means, go by Electroline and give us another report on it. I emailed them asking if they really had these 73" sets; even though I won't be getting one from them, it would be good to know if they are being delivered anywhere.

2)scoombs: Re the 73727, 827, or 927, you are right, the price seems to be about an equal increment as you go from one to the other. The 927 has the 'anti-glare' screen, which is actually a 'glary screen', much like the 720p sets of last year; want no part of that. It does have a VGA input which is certainly nice, but if I get into the business of hooking up a computer I can use one of the HDMI inputs, so the VGA is not a big deal for me; similarly, the larger DVR of the 927 doesn't seem very important (to me). So I don't see much gained in going from 827 to 927, at least for things I care about. But it does seem (maybe) that one does gain something useful in going from the 727 to 827, i.e., the 2 hd tuners. (And I think I like the cabinet of the 827 better than the 727, though I haven't seen either.) Anyway, this is my reasoning, for whatever it's worth.

I really like the cabinet in this picture:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televis...ils.asp?id=196

I bet Mitsubishi uses the .95 in. 1080p DMD in the 2006 Diamond series hopefully
with the same cabinet style. Such a 73 in. Mits would be at the top of my list
with next summer's 70 in. Sony SXRD for the last RP I ever buy :-)

Note also that the Diamond series tends to get the best optics, etc. so
I doubt the only difference is simply a vga input..
post #312 of 5390
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Originally Posted by GTarrant View Post

Just for a second opinion my 73" blue screen is of uniform brightness as well.

Thanks very much for checking this--sounds better all the time!
post #313 of 5390
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Originally Posted by tonydeluce View Post

I really like the cabinet in this picture:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televis...ils.asp?id=196

I bet Mitsubishi uses the .95 in. 1080p DMD in the 2006 Diamond series hopefully
with the same cabinet style. Such a 73 in. Mits would be at the top of my list
with next summer's 70 in. Sony SXRD for the last RP I ever buy :-)

Note also that the Diamond series tends to get the best optics, etc. so
I doubt the only difference is simply a vga input..

Tony, I can see that the silver framing would look nice in some settings, but for me I like the solid black of the 827 better (I guess why they make different versions!).

More seriously: on the Mits site they designate both the 827 and 927 (but not the 727) as of the 'diamond series'. They don't say anywhere (that I've seen) that the 827 and 927 have different innards from the 727, but I really not very familiar with Mitsubishi. Do you really think the 727, 827, and 927 have different components (for all the ones that they have in common, i.e., excluding the dvr's and vga input)? Would be interesting to know.
post #314 of 5390
And its confirmed that the 927 has the 1080p VGA? I see the 827 and 727 also have VGA ports, but I presume they don't accept the 1080p signal? Since I just bought an HTPC, thi I guess will justify the 927. Also, having the built-in hard drive gets around the problem of not being able to use encrypted QAM for HTPC HD cards, so it solves two problems for me, and if I can dump with IEEE, then I'm a done deal. cool.
post #315 of 5390
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Tony, I can see that the silver framing would look nice in some settings, but for me I like the solid black of the 827 better (I guess why they make different versions!).

More seriously: on the Mits site they designate both the 827 and 927 (but not the 727) as of the 'diamond series'. They don't say anywhere (that I've seen) that the 827 and 927 have different innards from the 727, but I really not very familiar with Mitsubishi. Do you really think the 727, 827, and 927 have different components (for all the ones that they have in common, i.e., excluding the dvr's and vga input)? Would be interesting to know.

Good point. I didn't know the 827 was also part of the diamond series...
post #316 of 5390
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Originally Posted by Cowchip View Post

Sorry, my fault. It should be the MB-62528 if it follows the same numbering scheme as my 52" TV stand did: WD-52628 = MB-52528 (black). The 527 is silver to match the 52627 TV, etc, etc.

Thanks, that's the number I thought it was also. I tried calling Mits. parts dept. all day but it was busy. The only reason I want to be correct without a doubt is because these stands have a recessed area where the TV sits down into. I sure would hate to buy one and the TV not fit!
post #317 of 5390
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Originally Posted by bopfer View Post

I was a little skeptical at first too. Their prices are amazingly low. But, I have nothing bad to say about them. I called and talked to Danny D over there. I told him I was interested in the 62927 and he quoted me the same price as on the website. He said that he can get for me it once I place my order and pay a portion of the price. I paid about $1800 up front. This was on a Friday and he said they would call me around Wednesday to let me know when I can pick it up. They called on Thursday, so a little late, but no big deal. He said I could pick it up on Friday. I went there at 3pm and the truck was just getting there with my TV on it. I paid the balance, loaded it in my truck and I was off. It was in the factory box and everything looked fine to me. So, 1 week from order to driving it home.

Their store is kinda in the ghetto, but it is right off the 110 so you don't have to drive too much on surface streets. I went by myself, but if you are nervous about that I would take a friend with you. The store itself is pretty small. They have about 25 TV's out on display. They have a good size warehouse though. They had a lot of TVs in their boxes stacked up.

I would definitely buy there again.

-Bryan

This being my first post, please excuse any mistakes (not much of a "poster") . I've been reading these posts for several days now....Why?...Because I too being interested in the Mits 73927 saw the Electroline 4u site with it's really low price and couldn't resist. I too talked to Danny D. who led me to believe that these sets were "on hand" and would be delivered soon . Thus far I have heard very little from Electroline and it's been a couple of weeks now. Initially they were to call/email me with info on my order on Monday of last week...nothing. I called them later that week and some woman who said she was a supervisor said I would be getting a call and email with info the next day...nothing . I sent them an email asking them to update me, so far....nothing . Now, it's not that I mis-trust Electroline; I just think that as a small business they ought to be more forthcoming in how they do business. Obviously from posts here they do exist, and they do have a triple B rating from the BBB; I think Danny D. et, al need to begin practicing good customer service, and... stop advertising "In Stock" when it's not. By the way, I also emailed Mitsubishi to ask when they where going to ship the 73927's, guess what?.. No reply! If anyone happens to go by Electroline anytime soon, tell Danny D. that: "The guy from Indiana is still waiting to hear something about his Mits 73" order and what's the hold-up" L8tr G8tr Retired Guy
post #318 of 5390
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Originally Posted by tonydeluce View Post

I really like the cabinet in this picture:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televis...ils.asp?id=196

That is made by JSP-Industries, I have my 73" on the Mozart and it looks fantastic
post #319 of 5390
Retired Guy,

I plan to visit their store the next week and I will mention your name that you are waiting to hear from them.

I also have the 73927 on order from Ken Cranes in Pasadena and they informed me that they expect that model to arrive between 10/15 and 10/21. So I don't think that Electroline can have it in stock before that date, however, I will definitely go and check.

I know they are a real store and obviously some people here have bought from them. Lets see what they do with me.

By the way, has anyone who has bought the 73" Mits or is considering buying it also bought an entertainment cabinet that fits a TV that size. I have been searching for something but everything I have found is over $4,000. I can't spend as much on the unit as I do on the TV.

The only thing that I have found that will fit this 73 TV is a unit from Parker House found here:

http://www.parker-house.com/

Their least expensive model is around $2000 but the one I want from them is over $3000.

Does anyone out there have a link for an entertainment unit that can fit a TV this large (70 to 73)? I already searched the web a lot, but everything is way over K4. Your help please.
post #320 of 5390
Thanx eros111......I noticed that bopfer had been to Electroline, and I thought one or two others might have been there from the threads, so I knew that they actually existed, but I swear, it seems almost like they don't. Anyway, I also ordered the matching stand that goes with the 73927 at the same time ($499.00) from them. It matches everything else we have in the room we're going to put it in. Again...Thanx
post #321 of 5390
Thread Starter 
Just an FYI, the Light Engine of the 727, 827,and 927 are all the same. Only cosmetic, glare screen, HD tuners, and the VGA Input are the difference. I didn't get the 827 or 927 because I have and HD PVR thru Dish, and I didn't need the VGA cuz I'm not hooking a HTPC to It. I think the black and dark grey looks just fine, and looks good In my setup. Did everyone see my Theater Pics to see the frame of the 727? I'm enjoying every minute on my DLP, Invasion's on ABC-HD right now and looks very good. C-ya
post #322 of 5390
Thread Starter 
By the way, should I keep the video mute on or off. Blue screen or black screen?
post #323 of 5390
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Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

Just an FYI, the Light Engine of the 727, 827,and 927 are all the same. Only cosmetic, glare screen, HD tuners, and the VGA Input are the difference. I didn't get the 827 or 927 because I have and HD PVR thru Dish, and I didn't need the VGA cuz I'm not hooking a HTPC to It. I think the black and dark grey looks just fine, and looks good In my setup. Did everyone see my Theater Pics to see the frame of the 727? I'm enjoying every minute on my DLP, Invasion's on ABC-HD right now and looks very good. C-ya

I have been assuming that, as you say, that the light engine etc. of the 73727, 73827, and 73927 are all the same; if this is not true, I would like to hear something definitive about it. And I agree with you, that the 73727 is probably the best deal; the added features of the 827 and 927 are marginal. Still, it the diff for getting the 827 is not much, I might spring for it. We'll see.
post #324 of 5390
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Originally Posted by eros111 View Post

By the way, has anyone who has bought the 73" Mits or is considering buying it also bought an entertainment cabinet that fits a TV that size. I have been searching for something but everything I have found is over $4,000. I can't spend as much on the unit as I do on the TV.

In anticipation of a 73" Mits, I got a local shop that makes bookshelves (from whom we had earlier bought some bookshelves) to make a bookshelf-type stand to my specific dimensions: 72"W, 16"H, 18"D, made of solid American oak, finished with a clear coat to leave the natural grain. It has two verticle partitions, each with an adjustible shelf (i.e., 6 component compartments: very much the style of a stand shown by FGrim recently in another thread, and the Oppli stand of Ikea). Looks great, and was $250. I suggest that you look around your area for such local stores (or unfinished furniture places); often they will have them made up to whatever dimensions you want.
post #325 of 5390
Now if only Costco will carry the 73927. . . Its worth the wait, I gues. ..
post #326 of 5390
Thread Starter 
Anyone calibrate their new Mits? Someone needs to post some video settings so we can all enjoy a better picture...
post #327 of 5390
I believe someone asked earlier with no responce. Is anyone having their Mits. professionally calibrated?
post #328 of 5390
I posted some basic settings a few pages back. I don't think it can be improved upon. The sharpest pictures, and black level detail I have seen except those costing a few thousands more. Certainly, the best DLP on the market for now, IMO.

I have also, noticed some posted are using "bright" and then reducing basic settings like brightness, color reduced and color low etc. in an attempt to get back to the fundamental settings I had described at "natural". So both those methods could end up very similar.

PBS HD has a repeating show, highlighting the national parks, with an orchestra all dressed in black. The one thing you will notice is the 100's shades of black. That is the type of detail I have not really seen on other HD sets. Also, the MLB HD games on FOX have been outstanding, as well as HD sports on CBS.
post #329 of 5390
I would be willing to offer a discount on a professional calibration to the first person in Houston.
post #330 of 5390
As a follow up, IMO "professional calibration" is not required.
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