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post #391 of 5593
My 5060 will arrive tomorrow, just talked to trucking company, ordered it tuesday from monitoroutlet, that's pretty speedy delivery I think
I laso would like to share an interesting experience with the folks here, Since I was expecting the TV I starting preparing for it by ordering some accessories IE: wallmount, cables DVD players etc...
Well I got a lead from this forum (of course) to order cables from monoprice, and it was an amazing expereince. Well last night around 4:00PM PST, I ordered 2 HDMI cables, 2 optical cables and 1 component set, and a BNC cable for my PC, besides the amazing prices they have on all the gold plated end cables (without mentioning the prices let's just say they all cost me less then one component set from BB or CC including shipping and tax) , they had an option in the shipping called california overnight which is only a couple of dollars more then regular shipping approx $7 as compare to $5 on all these goodies and this option is available for 3 states I think it's AZ CA an NV,I live in Hollywood CA, ok now remember that was last night around 4:00pm, guess what I was leaving to work this morning 9:00AM, and I live in an appartment building, I opened the door to leave and I found a package at the door, WOW!!!! I couldn't beleive my eyes, I wasn't too thrilled about the idea that they just left it there, but daaaaam that was quick.
post #392 of 5593
Tweeter is getting a call from me as well. I was told the 7th. Of course, I was told the 1st also...
post #393 of 5593
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Originally Posted by LoonyTunes View Post

Here's two pictures of the 1130 in the shop's setup room. They aren't the best in the world but that's all I got to work with. Also received the dimensions of 48 1/4" x 28 1/4" x 3 5/8" for the 1130 w/o speakers.

Hey Looney; I'm also in OKC and am curious what shop???? I'm working with Audio Midwest in Edmond on my new plasma setup; leaning to the Pio!!! thanks
post #394 of 5593
Theyre dropping from the sky!

Just bought my 1130 and its getting delivered on Saturday.

I had one on order ($500 deposit) for almost 4 weeks from a small shop but they didnt seem too interested in my business. They offered me an insulting price for my speakers/sub and just didnt seem too interested in selling me an 1130.

So today I called a local Magnolia HiFi and sure enough they had one that was just delivered. I bought it and its going to be here Saturday. The price was the press release price.

Any SF Bay Area people looking for 1130s, the Magnolia HiFi in Palo Alto had several in stock. Im guessing the rest of them in the area all received a few.

John
post #395 of 5593
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Originally Posted by natgas View Post

Hey Looney; I'm also in OKC and am curious what shop???? I'm working with Audio Midwest in Edmond on my new plasma setup; leaning to the Pio!!! thanks

The name of the company is Select Systems.
post #396 of 5593
Just got off the phone with the local shop here and mine will be delivered Saturday also. I guess they are officially here and we'll have lots of busy Pio owners on Saturday.
post #397 of 5593
So anbody have any real information about the DRE on the 5060 vs the 1130 ?

I am currently using a 5050 while waiting for 5060, and I have the DRE turned "off" on mine, as it is very similar to the Panasonic "floating black level" issue, but seems a little better on the side effects. Someone mentioned they had trouble setting black level with it "off" - I had the opposite experience: "ON" = black levels that fluctuate with APL (it actually provides a slight perceived contrast boost, as the Pannys do in "standard" and "vivid" mode).

The 5061 in BB has no "DRE" in the menu - so, is it "ON" and you can't turn it "OFF", or does it not have it at all ?? (Hope its the latter...)
I assume the 1130 must be like the "old" 5050, and let you turn it "on" or "off"?

- Chris
post #398 of 5593
Just took delivery of a Peerless PSWT PION50 wall mount for use with my 1130...

very well made mount, imo.

Just an FYI also, i ordered from Racksandstands.com, ordered at 12noon on 10/3 and the box was at my door @ 4pm today 10/6. not bad for free shipping.
post #399 of 5593
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Originally Posted by Iamjcl View Post

So anbody have any real information about the DRE on the 5060 vs the 1130 ?

I am currently using a 5050 while waiting for 5060, and I have the DRE turned "off" on mine, as it is very similar to the Panasonic "floating black level" issue, but seems a little better on the side effects. Someone mentioned they had trouble setting black level with it "off" - I had the opposite experience: "ON" = black levels that fluctuate with APL (it actually provides a slight perceived contrast boost, as the Pannys do in "standard" and "vivid" mode).

The 5061 in BB has no "DRE" in the menu - so, is it "ON" and you can't turn it "OFF", or does it not have it at all ?? (Hope its the latter...)
I assume the 1130 must be like the "old" 5050, and let you turn it "on" or "off"?

- Chris

Eelton emailed Pio with that question a few days ago. Haven't seen a post that indicated a response.

Hey Eelton......... Hear anything yet?
post #400 of 5593
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Just took delivery of a Peerless PSWT PION50 wall mount for use with my 1130

This is my first Plasma. Does any wall mount for 50" Plasmas work or do I have to look for something particular? Does Pioneer sell one specifically for this Plasma?
post #401 of 5593
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Iamjcl View Post

So anbody have any real information about the DRE on the 5060 vs the 1130 ?...The 5061 in BB has no "DRE" in the menu - so, is it "ON" and you can't turn it "OFF", or does it not have it at all ?? (Hope its the latter...)
I assume the 1130 must be like the "old" 5050, and let you turn it "on" or "off"?

- Chris

I e-mailed Pioneer about this on Monday, but have not received a reply.
post #402 of 5593
wondering if the picture for analog and regular digital picture is better on the 1130 than the 1120? did they make any changes?
post #403 of 5593
maldical,

The people that make the mount will tell you if you need an adaptor plate or not. I have the Omni UCL Mount for my 5060 which is SUPPOSED to arrive today. As of right now, it looks like the mount will arrive but not the Pio.

Take Care,

Richard
post #404 of 5593
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maldical,

The people that make the mount will tell you if you need an adaptor plate or not. I have the Omni UCL Mount for my 5060 which is SUPPOSED to arrive today. As of right now, it looks like the mount will arrive but not the Pio.

Thanks. I just went ahead and ordered a Peerless from an internet vendor along with a StudioTech cabinet. I should get both by next week while the TV will be here tomorrow. Doesn't really matter since the room it's going in is getting new carpet next week also. I also plan on next Saturday getting both my TVs ISF calibrated. The ISF tech said he needs to purchase software from Pioneer first for the calibration. My Mits 65" CRT will be easier and he said he can make that one ten times better. This project is about two months old and the end is near!
post #405 of 5593
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Originally Posted by maldical View Post

This is my first Plasma. Does any wall mount for 50" Plasmas work or do I have to look for something particular? Does Pioneer sell one specifically for this Plasma?


There was confirmation at CEDIA (by a member here) that Pioneer directly stated the mounting scheme of the new panels was not changed from the previous generation.

If you find a mount for the 5050 or 1120, it will be compatible with the new models too.

My peerless was drop shipped from a warehouse in IL so you may get yours faster than I did!
post #406 of 5593
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Originally Posted by maldical View Post

I should get both by next week while the TV will be here tomorrow. I also plan on next Saturday getting both my TVs ISF calibrated.

You might consider postponing the ISF calibration for a little while. I've heard that it's best to wait until the TV is broken in (100 hours at least) before calibrating.

BTW, I'm expecting my 5060 today!
post #407 of 5593
Well I just got the word, Cambryn at TVA was able to get an ok, so that the Pio will be delivered today vs Monday. TVA has a driver just to bring the Pio from Tampa to Naples (about 150 miles) so that it will arrive before my Birthday on Sunday.

They sure are great, going the extra mile, literally, so that a customer will be made happy.

Thank You TVA,

Richard
post #408 of 5593
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Originally Posted by Deathstalker View Post

Well I just got the word, Cambryn at TVA was able to get an ok, so that the Pio will be delivered today vs Monday. TVA has a driver just to bring the Pio from Tampa to Naples (about 150 miles) so that it will arrive before my Birthday on Sunday.

They sure are great, going the extra mile, literally, so that a customer will be made happy.

Thank You TVA,

Richard

Funny, my birthday is also on Sunday. And I am getting my 5060 today - Seko just rang to confirm delivery. Now if someone would just give me some help on HOOKING UP MY MINI...

JD
post #409 of 5593
jjdnyc,

Dean over at SEKO gave me your shipping (tracking) number first before he mentioned mine. I was wondering who the other shipping number was for.

Guess now I know, congratz.

Richard
post #410 of 5593
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Originally Posted by Deathstalker View Post

jjdnyc,

Dean over at SEKO gave me your shipping (tracking) number first before he mentioned mine. I was wondering who the other shipping number was for.

Guess now I know, congratz.

Richard

Happy Birthday to your guys, and congrats on the new Elites. We look forward to your reviews once you get them installed.
post #411 of 5593
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pstrisik View Post

Eelton emailed Pio with that question a few days ago. Haven't seen a post that indicated a response.

Hey Eelton......... Hear anything yet?

I finally received a reply regarding DRE on the 5060, sort of:

Quote:


Thanks for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.

Based on your e-mail request, we feel that we can be of better assistance if you contact our Product Support line.

Please contact us at (800)421-1404 for further assistance.

I haven't called yet.
post #412 of 5593
I have a couple mounts I bought before I bought the tv's. I was going with plasma but ended up with a couple Sharps 37 inch lcd's. I have a Omnimount UCL with a UM1 adapter plate and will fit any plasma. Also a Chief PLP-2081 that fits the new Elites plus the 5060 plus any 50 inch Pio plus Runcos and hitachis from the cross refrence list on chiefmfg.com I wish I would have waited till everything shook out but now I'm kinda stuck with these. Installer told me that the Omnimount is compatible but he didn't want to do it and told me to get an adapter plate that fits the d5u exactly. Called Omni and told me that the UM1 will work and only option I have. Anybody using this UCL with UM1 on a Sharp? Should I Ebay these and start over? Suggestions please.
post #413 of 5593
Ok, Ok, Ok,

Everything I have said about TVA and Cambryn, I take it ALL back!

All this time She and the the rest of TVA have been conspiring with my wife. As it turns out, they have delated the arrival of my 5060 until next week so they my wife could surprise me with a trip to Vegas for the weekend.

Cambryn even had the manager of SEKO in on the deal.

Do not ever trust them!

Richard

P.S. Thank you to all.
post #414 of 5593
Quote:


You might consider postponing the ISF calibration for a little while. I've heard that it's best to wait until the TV is broken in (100 hours at least) before calibrating.

I guess I can postpone it a couple weeks. Thanks for the advice.

Quote:


All this time She and the the rest of TVA have been conspiring with my wife. As it turns out, they have delated the arrival of my 5060 until next week so they my wife could surprise me with a trip to Vegas for the weekend.

Cambryn even had the manager of SEKO in on the deal

That's funny. SURPRISE!
post #415 of 5593
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Originally Posted by eelton View Post

I finally received a reply regarding DRE on the 5060, sort of:

I haven't called yet.

I went ahead and called. He checked and said there was a DRE setting on the xx60. I said that was counter to what people on AVS that received these units were reporting. He went and checked some more, looked at his trade show literature and manual, came back and said that I was correct, there is not setting and that it is permenantly enabled. He also said it was the new Active DRE, that is supposed to adjust automatically based on the material displayed (same as the Elites, but without the ability to control it).

From his report, it sounds like there may be something in the manual about DRE. Wanna check?
post #416 of 5593
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pstrisik View Post

I went ahead and called. He checked and said there was a DRE setting on the xx60. I said that was counter to what people on AVS that received these units were reporting. He went and checked some more, looked at his trade show literature and manual, came back and said that I was correct, there is not setting and that it is permenantly enabled. He also said it was the new Active DRE, that is supposed to adjust automatically based on the material displayed (same as the Elites, but without the ability to control it).

From his report, it sounds like there may be something in the manual about DRE. Wanna check?

Peter, thanks for calling. I haven't noticed anything in the manual, and in fact I just searched the PDF version (available on this page, after you register) and there's no mention of "DRE" or "dynamic range."
post #417 of 5593
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Originally Posted by pstrisik View Post

I went ahead and called. He checked and said there was a DRE setting on the xx60. I said that was counter to what people on AVS that received these units were reporting. He went and checked some more, looked at his trade show literature and manual, came back and said that I was correct, there is not setting and that it is permenantly enabled. He also said it was the new Active DRE, that is supposed to adjust automatically based on the material displayed (same as the Elites, but without the ability to control it).

From his report, it sounds like there may be something in the manual about DRE. Wanna check?


Assuming that the DRE is permanently enabled, what is the real world effect of this? This is a model I am seriously considering. I don't understand the concept of DRE. Can anybody explain or just tell me what the real world impact is? Thanks.
post #418 of 5593
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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

Assuming that the DRE is permanently enabled, what is the real world effect of this? This is a model I am seriously considering. I don't understand the concept of DRE. Can anybody explain or just tell me what the real world impact is? Thanks.

Most here agree that it has a positive effect on picture quality. Others feel as if it doesn't need to be on as they see it as a "gimmick". This DRE issue is the only thing keeping me from placing an order. I don't know if I should get the elite or 60 series. If it really is active on the 60 series I'll place my order today. I wish I knew an engineer @ Pioneer.
post #419 of 5593
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Originally Posted by LoonyTunes View Post

Here's two pictures of the 1130 in the shop's setup room. They aren't the best in the world but that's all I got to work with. Also received the dimensions of 48 1/4" x 28 1/4" x 3 5/8" for the 1130 w/o speakers.


What shop is that? Looks like an office. A little strange for them to setup by the cubicles instead of a show floor or something of that nature.
post #420 of 5593
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Most here agree that it has a positive effect on picture quality. Others feel as if it doesn't need to be on as they see it as a "gimmick". This DRE issue is the only thing keeping me from placing an order. I don't know if I should get the elite or 60 series. If it really is active on the 60 series I'll place my order today. I wish I knew an engineer @ Pioneer.

Get the Elite! The ability to callibrate to the extent the 930/1130 allows is quite a bit of peace of mind and insurance. If we start seeing something like green push, fluctuating blacks, etc., the Elite owners will be able to do more about it (not that I expect any of that sort of thing, heah?). It would remove the DRE from concern.

Not to mention the 2 year warranty, swivel base that weighs 97 pounds, and bragging rights.
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