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post #31 of 413
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Originally Posted by asmdev View Post

You can't adjust treble but there is 'bass boost' function - on/off. Look manual, there was a link somewhere on this forum.
I still have time to sent this one back

Apparently, I didn't get the point across in my previous post. This should be documented in the JVC 402B manual.

On page 28 it describes how to adjust the EQ bands (5) which is basically a more sophisticated tone control. There are 2 bands in the bass region, 1 in midrange, 2 in treble. (+- 8DB). JVC has used builtin 5-band EQ's for years because they are more flexible than simple tone controls.

Five bands can still be limiting (I own several Audio Control 10-bands), but simple bass/treble controls only cover two bands controlling a wider range. In other words, the EQ is more precise and flexible than simple tone controls. Although this digital UI is not quite as easy to adjust as twisting two knobs or the old slider days, it's not that hard. On the upside, you should be able to store a (potentially different) EQ profile for each source, which is not practical with many outboard EQ's.

Also, the JVC's EQ is independant of the Bass boost which is typically around 100HZ (which would be between the two bass EQ bands, 63HZ and 250HZ).

So whoever says that "treble can't be adjusted" doesn't know how to fully operate the unit.
post #32 of 413
Can I ask why you returned the XR-70?
post #33 of 413
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Originally Posted by ColdOnes View Post

Where did you buy this receiver from ? I've searched and can't find it anywhere !

I bought mine at Amazon for $380.00 with free shipping
post #34 of 413
Due to the lack of affordable HDMI switches with digital audio, is anyone considering this as a switch (with a bunch of extras) and sending the ditital audio out to another receiver or amp?
post #35 of 413
Still nobody has tried the USB port or USB Wireless feature?

The JVC manual for 301 says the range for wireless is 100 feet, but I have a feeling that you need to have no physical obstruction between the wireless antenna and USB stick and also use short distances to get reliable music transfer, especially if using lossless files. The manual doesn't even say what the transmission rate is, 801.2b or g..

Both 301 and 401 have a USB port on the front, but we still don't have actual info on whether you can play files from Foobar or iTunes through this USB port.
post #36 of 413
pd50u - thanks for the clarification and for the manual link. I think eq is nicer than just bass & trebble controls.
still haven't decided if I should send the panasonic sa-xr70 back and get the jvc. Hopefully there is somebody that heard both of them and can compare the sound (I don't care about the hdmi switching that the JVC has - at least for now)
post #37 of 413
One thing I noticed, and see if anyone who owns this can help me out with... If you are using the 2 HDMI inputs, can you also use the 2Component inputs for something else or they can't be used now since the HDMI are being used?

Also can anyone please post the demensions for RX-D401S?
post #38 of 413
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Still nobody has tried the USB port or USB Wireless feature?

I don't have this unit (yet), but from reading the manual I can tell you that the 201/301/401 will act just like a sound card when plugged into a computer. This means that you can use any program you like, and any format you like. The bad news is that you must navigate everything from your computer. I'm pretty sure the wireless option on the 301/701 operates the same way, as the manual does not outline any special software. Supported data (from the manual):

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Corresponding to Linear PCM, Dolby Digital, and DTS (with
sampling frequency32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz).

I found some info from JVC's dutch site about the wireless pc-link on the 301. It seems it uses a proprietary wireless signal, similar to 2.4ghz phones (Babelfish Translation):

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With a transfer speed of 2 mbps on a frequency of 2.4ghz even ongecomprimeerde files without loss can be transferred. THE DSSS (direct Sequence Spreading spectrum) modulatie send ongecomprimeerde [probably means uncomprimised] audio with an excellent indicator/ruis-verhouding, for an excellent sound quality.

I'm real curious to see how this works. Actually all I want to know is if the data is sent to the receiver to be decoded, like the Squeezebox and Soundbridge do, or if the data is decoded first then sent over the wireless. I wish it was like the Squeezebox or Soundbridge, but this statement from the manual makes me think otherwise:

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If noise comes during playback or playback is interrupted
with USB WIRELESS

"Noise" pretty much tells me that it is decoded first, then sent over the wireless. If true, this means the wireless USB is not high fidelity at all, and the wired USB port should be used. The only way to find a definitive answer would be to look at the USB wireless adapter and look at the chip inside. I think the casing for the USB adapter is a smokey/clear plastic, so you may be able to read through it without opening it....... Anybody with a 301 interested in looking into this
post #39 of 413
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by simplyjaz View Post

One thing I noticed, and see if anyone who owns this can help me out with... If you are using the 2 HDMI inputs, can you also use the 2Component inputs for something else or they can't be used now since the HDMI are being used?

Also can anyone please post the demensions for RX-D401S?

Uh...sort of. Really you can only switch between 3 devices. JVC labels these VCR, DVD/DVR, and DBS. If DBS HDMI is being used, then you can't use DBS-Component and DBS-SVideo, at least not directly. You can plug devices into these inputs but would require going into the menu and changing the config each time, which is a complete hassle to me. Possible strategic macro programming on Universal remotes would take that pain away, but I don't have more than 3 devices so I am a happy camper.
post #40 of 413
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Originally Posted by clwolf View Post

Can I ask why you returned the XR-70?

I needed 2 HDMI IN for my DVD player & HDTV receiver.

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Originally Posted by PD50U View Post

So whoever says that "treble can't be adjusted" doesn't know how to fully operate the unit.

True, not yet. The main feature I was concerned with was hdmi switching.

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Originally Posted by drjlo View Post

Still nobody has tried the USB port or USB Wireless feature?

The receiver does works as a sound card. Playing 256/320kbps mp3 on my laptop with PLII is cool.
post #41 of 413
Any issues or concerns of these JVC receivers running too hot? I'm worried about this issue since people have mentioned it has been a problem for JVC's past line up. Therefore I'm still hesistant waiting for the JVC 702B version or even pulling the trigger for the 402B.

Is it worth paying alot more for those other receivers that has similar specs to the JVCs? I'm not an audiophile so therefore I don't know if I can even tell the difference. I just want the upconversion and hdmi ports that these receivers have. Also have enough juice to power my ceiling speakercraft AIM8 speakers.
post #42 of 413
I found this receiver to be overpriced and too little info on performance. I would have bought one but when you compare the price difference between this and the XR55, tough to spend the extra on what may be lesser audio performance.

Also, you can purchase a HDMI/DVI switch on Amazon for $53 shipped. Mine is on the way...
post #43 of 413
Is there anyone who owns this receiver that can take a look at the rear panel and report back with its power consumption?

Jeff
post #44 of 413
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Originally Posted by DBryant View Post

Also, you can purchase a HDMI/DVI switch on Amazon for $53 shipped. Mine is on the way...

Which brand? Can you link me to this switcher?
post #45 of 413
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Originally Posted by Stereojeff View Post

Is there anyone who owns this receiver that can take a look at the rear panel and report back with its power consumption?

Jeff

150 W/200 VA [at operation]
0.9W [in standby mode]
post #46 of 413
If you buy this would you need an upconverting DVD player?
post #47 of 413
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Originally Posted by adler223 View Post

If you buy this would you need an upconverting DVD player?

Not at all. JVC has all the usual vidoe inputs, composite, S-video, component. HDMI for DVD players that have HDMI is just a bonus but a good upconverting DVD player is great for picture quality and highly recommended anyway.

Anyway, still no word on whether JVC RX301's wireless gadget will be fast enough for lossless music files?
post #48 of 413
Ok I finally received my JVC-RX401S Friday afternoon (10/7) and set it up Saturday afternoon. Now I admit, I was a little excited when I hooked the JVC up to my Samsung TV, Samsung HD- 850DVD Player and my Directv HD-250 Tivo via HDMI along with my Polk Audio 5.1 Surround sound speakers and sub. So I turn on the Receiver set the Video to HDMI and Audio to HDMI and I only get Video no sound.

To make a long story short, after about an hour of checking cables and reading the manual front to back, I pull out two of my older sat speakers and connect them to the front speaker connecters on the receiver and Bam, I now have sound.

So here are some of my observations:

1. The receiver must be on to watch TV. (I worked around this by connecting component and audio cables to my Tivo)
2. The receiver gets really hot!! ( I have about two inch clearance on top and an inch on either side and 10 inch clearance in the back. The front is open)
3. Speaker/Room setup works really good. You can set the distance to the speakers along with a time delay if needed.
4. I now have a 7.1 speaker setup instead of a 5.1. My bad for not check to see if the front to speakers could be set in a second zone.
5. I like the remote. It's small yet functional. I was able to add to my TV and DVD player to it. The Tivo would not play ball. I was able to setup my Harmony 676 remote in about 3 minutes and it works great.


Ok, I'll keep playing with it and test what I can. Now to come up with an excuse as to why we needed a set of Polk Audio R30's speakers
post #49 of 413
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Originally Posted by SoJo View Post

2. The receiver gets really hot!! ( I have about two inch clearance on top and an inch on either side and 10 inch clearance in the back. The front is open)

Hmm. How hot? I've read at least 2 reports of JVC dying after literally a puff of smoke...

Could you also please try the USB in and see what sound quality you can get out of that?
post #50 of 413
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Originally Posted by drjlo View Post

Hmm. How hot? I've read at least 2 reports of JVC dying after literally a puff of smoke...

Could you also please try the USB in and see what sound quality you can get out of that?

As far as the heat goes I wouldn't want to leave my hand on it for very long. I'll try and get a temp gage and see what it gets up to after about an hour or usage.

I'll drag the wifes laptop over and see what the sound quality sounds like.
post #51 of 413
I was wondering if anyone who owns this receiver who uses a HD CABLE box has been able to get the HDMI OUT to work?
post #52 of 413
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DBryant View Post

I found this receiver to be overpriced and too little info on performance. I would have bought one but when you compare the price difference between this and the XR55, tough to spend the extra on what may be lesser audio performance.

Also, you can purchase a HDMI/DVI switch on Amazon for $53 shipped. Mine is on the way...

Your HDMI/DVI switch can't transcode analog video to HDMI. This reciever can do it all. I prefer having less components, less cables, and less remotes to worry about. Small price to pay when it can be bought and shipped for $384.
post #53 of 413
Am I the only one surprised that this JVC receiver, rated at 110 watts per channel, only uses 150 watts of electrical power? I know these digital receivers are supposed to be efficient, but from the power requirements on the rear panel, it it were 100% efficient, it would only be capable of 150 watts "Total" output. Spread over 7 channels, that would be about 21 WPC.

Jeff
post #54 of 413
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Originally Posted by sparky7 View Post

I was wondering if anyone who owns this receiver who uses a HD CABLE box has been able to get the HDMI OUT to work?

Anybody?
post #55 of 413
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Originally Posted by drjlo View Post

Hmm. How hot? I've read at least 2 reports of JVC dying after literally a puff of smoke...

Could you also please try the USB in and see what sound quality you can get out of that?


Sorry for the late response. The heat stays around 90 to 95 degrees F. It's starting to get cooler so that may or may not change.

The sound quality though the USB was actually better than I thought it would be. Of course that's open to interpretation

The WAF factor has actually improved after the wife has had some time to use the Receiver.

Overall I am pretty happy with this purchase
post #56 of 413
I am working on it now. I have a samsung dlp connected to the jvc via hdmi and a panasonic upconverting dvd connnected via hdmi. Both work. Just got the 8300 hd dvr (cox san diego) and all I'm getting is a hdcp error message.
post #57 of 413
I also just purchased this but I'm having a problem getting it to work with the sa 8300hd via hdmi. I keep getting an hdcp error message. The JVC works fine via hdmi to connect the dvd player (panasonic) to the tv.
post #58 of 413
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Originally Posted by RVEXLER View Post

I also just purchased this but I'm having a problem getting it to work with the sa 8300hd via hdmi. I keep getting an hdcp error message. The JVC works fine via hdmi to connect the dvd player (panasonic) to the tv.

I've read on this forum and a few others that there have been some issues with some HD cable boxes having issues with HDCP errors over HDMI. (Due a search on HDCP errors)

Have you tried using component and analog audio cables?? I know this defeats the purpose of using just one cable for both sound and video, but the system will pass the component video and audio though the HDMI connection to the TV.
post #59 of 413
has anyone had any experience with the hdmi/hdcp switching problem with dish boxes. I'm having problems with the hdcable box and want to switch it out to sat and want to know if there will be a similar issue.
post #60 of 413
how many people are having the hdmi/hdcp problem, because in a month i am looking to buy the 702. but if this is a big problem i would rather keep my old receiver and not deal with the anger of wanting to toss the new receiver off of a cliff because of hdcp. also has any one had this problem and fixed it by still having all devices run through the receiver.
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