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post #61 of 987
The BL premier had it all and did it for me again. Opening with Shatner and Spader with sunglasses doing the walk - great! Camera shots wre fantastic - Malcolm in court telling everyone he'd like to squeeze Tara's tush. Did ya see how many facial expressions were shot there? The part when the junior lawyer (not sure of his name) played he video clips of past presidents and other famous folks refering to Christ (although, I didn't quite get the Clinton - Monica Lewinsky thing there). A also dug how they brought that guy "Goober from Boston Public" as the judge back. (Sorry, "Goober", can't recall yer name, but you are a terrific actor.) Most bizarre of all, and very Dabid E. Lekkey, was the celloe thing - how original, huh!?

But what I want to know is...Did she or didn't she? Guilty or Innocent?

Great show - wife and I luv'd it. Can't wait for next week's.

Only foible I found wasa that they gave no seguay as to who Denise Bauer was or where she came from - she just shows up.
post #62 of 987
There wasn't time to have a segue to introduce the new characters. That whole sub-plot (using second season actors) was edited into an already completed first-season episode. I was amazed at how they did it (and wonder what sub-plot was eliminated to make room, and if it will get re-used in some future episode; I'm thinking it involved Monica Potter, since she was only in the scene where everyone was looking at the internet pictures, or Rene Auber...Odo).
post #63 of 987
I though the whole subplot with Julie Bowen and the cubs were lame. Everything else is good so far.
post #64 of 987
Opening got me right back into the mood - after a much too long hiatus.

Since Mitra and Potter are still there, we can't really make a determination as far as the impact on the show yet. But I do know, if Julie Bowen gives that little dweeb the time of day, she will forfeit the right to becoming the new "sex symbol" on the show. I'd look at her the same way Jerry did to his girlfriend when he found out she once dated Newman.
post #65 of 987
(From Marc Berman's Programming Insider column of Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

Led by the series-premiere of Commander in Chief, ABC moved into the top-spot on Tuesday in the overnights and total viewers, beating No. 2 CBS by 10 percent in the overnights and 180,000 viewers. NBC was first among adults 18-49, one-tenth of a rating point above CBS and Fox. ABC ranked No. 4 in the demo.

Commander in Chief kicked-off with a stellar 12.6/18 in the overnights (#1), 16.15 million viewers (#1) and a 4.3/11 among adults 18-49 (#3t) from 9-10 p.m., building from a one-hour episode of the tired According To Jim (Overnights: #4, 5.7/ 9; Viewers: #2, 7.87 million; A18-49: #3, 2.8/ 8 from 8-9 p.m.) by a whopping 121 percent in the overnights, 8.28 million viewers and 54 percent among adults 18-49. At 10 p.m. on ABC, the second-season premiere of Boston Legal (Overnights: #2, 9.1/14; Viewers: #2, 12.55 million; A18-49: #3, 3.4/ 8) did not take full advantage of lead-in Commander in Chief, dropping by a considerable 28 percent in the overnights and 3.60 million viewers.
post #66 of 987
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Originally Posted by drpepper View Post

We enjoyed. Shatner's comments when walking in & out of court..no comment.. I fathered your child or something like that... opening scene w/ shades & "baby elephant walk" music great!

I thought it was the Theme from Peter Gunn? Was the premiere one of the 5 shows that was left over from last season?
post #67 of 987
I was surprised at home much I liked Commander In Chief and enjoyed the segue into this show.

I guess Mitra's departure will be explained via her breaking up with Allan Shore and going with this old boyfriend of hers...or some fallout thereof.

They'll probably have a quick moment where she takes a job at another firm (maybe the ex boyfriend's?() ,or leaves town, or some cliche like that and write her out. Potter doesn't look like she's even getting that. They've already pretty much phased her out.

I didn't realize how much I'd missed this show, truly, until I saw the shot with Spader and Shatner, laughed, and got right back into it. "Goober" as the judge is pure gold. I've always been a fan of Anthony Heald. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0372217/

Treat this show right, ABC!
post #68 of 987
It remains to be seen how well this show will do after the changes, but with last night's episode it's too bad that the most interesting case went with the new group of actors while the most boring case, an over-the-hill looking Locklear as a husband killer(really, can it be any less interesting than that?) goes with the Spader character.

I understand that this episode was probably re-cobbled together to introduce the new characters and pave the way for the departing ones, but that case with the cello playing woman was just plain stupid and ridiculous.

Spader and Shatner were great as usual, I just hope the changes are improvements.
post #69 of 987
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Originally Posted by tall1 View Post

I thought it was the Theme from Peter Gunn? Was the premiere one of the 5 shows that was left over from last season?

Yes -- confirmed by the CC -- and Yes
post #70 of 987
Opps Your right...Peter Gun.. I even have the CD. Thats what I get for posting at 230am
post #71 of 987
Thread Starter 
Just got to watch last night's episode. Hmmm... Can't believe they stuck Monica Potter in a collection of gawkers/extras hanging around a laptop leering at photos, giving her two seconds of onscreen time and then having the nerve to credit her as "Special Appearance by Monica Potter"!

On a technical note, I noticed a sudden and very dramatic change in HD picture quality at the tail end of the courtroom scene, when Rupert Everett propositions Tara. Suddenly, it went all grainy like it was shot at a completely different time by a totally different lower resolution camera (almost SD!) and inserted into the final edit. Maybe they changed their mind and rewrote/reshot many months later to fit their needs, as is very likely. Whatever the explanation, the whole rest of the show seemed to have that same slightly grainy background, having nothing to do with 720p vs. 1080i clarity. It was definitely intentional, and I didn't care for it. I prefer crystal clear, like BL has always been... right up to the last five minutes of this show.

On a subjective note, this show may be the first of my "record this series" entries that I delete. I was VERY disappointed.

All members of the new cast (especially Julie Bowen, and her underling/hot-for-her Garrett) are annoying and unattractive. And the writing seems to have been turned over to a totally new crew, which has ratcheted down the quality and turned up the winks/nods/supposedly-amusing-banter . Very insulting. And not very amusing, nor entertaining.

I also don't care for the fact that 80% of the show is in the courtroom. Very dull. These people are not real lawyers and the writing supporting their performances has degraded. And no judge would be so insipid to allow Alan Shore to insult him like a child. This is just plain juvenile writing. I don't want to follow these characters in the courtroom... I am much more entertained by their out-of-court interactions. That's where the comedy and clever writing belong, and what I tune in to watch. The courtroom is (or should be) just a background, and Kelley has apparently broken that notion.

I'm not interested in any of the few characters left from first season, and even Candice Bergen looked awful (skin cancer?) and had an underwritten part. The new additions are all young, innocuous and unobtrusive, probably cast that way so as not to detract from the three bigshots who are left... but who have been given no strong ensemble actors around them to set the stage properly.

Rupert Everett (he does NOT look good) and Rhona Mitra? I think not. A cello-playing witness, using improvised musical responses (like in "Fantasia") to questions? I think not. What were they thinking?

I was even greatly disappointed with the weekly "cigar scene". This show is now a caricature of what it was last year. And I don't mean that in a good way.

This series, judging from just this one first cobbled-together clunker of an episode intended to provide a transition into a newly retooled premise, has already jumped the shark right at the start of only its second season. Strangely Ally McBeal-like, deja vu all over again.

I had more fun watching "Amazing Race".

And I'll lust after Rhona Mitra every week on "Nip/Tuck", where she has been perfectly cast in a very adult, well-written and entertaining series.

I'm afraid BL has gone into the toilet. Wouldn't be overly surprised if it didn't make it through the complete season. It's already had a surprisingly poor overnight ratings result for the season debut.
post #72 of 987
I was not thrilled by this episode mostly because it was obviously not a true season premiere. They billed it as one but it obviously was just a recut version of an ep from last season. Their removal of Potter and replacement with these new, lame characters distracted me from the episode. It made it very choppy. The episode seemed to lack depth.

I loved this show last season but can't stand these new characters... the kid that did the religion video clips almost seemed like he's going to be a mini-Alan Shore. How lame.
post #73 of 987
yeah, i'm not a fan of the new kid. I should like stop watching David E Kelly shows. They always start out great and then disappoint.... there's nothing else worth watching at the 10-11 hour, so i'll still be watching.
post #74 of 987
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Originally Posted by Ou8thisSN View Post

yeah, i'm not a fan of the new kid. I should like stop watching David E Kelly shows. They always start out great and then disappoint.... there's nothing else worth watching at the 10-11 hour, so i'll still be watching.

For the 10-11 hour on Tuesdays, Nip/Tuck blows away this new Boston Legal, different concept to be sure, but some of the best TV available.
post #75 of 987
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

For the 10-11 hour on Tuesdays, Nip/Tuck blows away this new Boston Legal, different concept to be sure, but some of the best TV available.

Agreed. And you can precede this with "Amazing Race" for sheer fun (exhausting, to be sure, but very enjoyable).

Of course with DVR/VCR equipment, who really cares what time something is on? It's truly a matter about whether the show is worth watching at all.

I'll give BL one more look-see next week before I make my final decision.
post #76 of 987
Close to Home with Jennifer Finnigan starts next week. Anything with Jennifer Finnigan in it is worth a squint.
post #77 of 987
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Unbelievable!
And Lake Bell was axed at episode 5 of season 1.

What is David Kelley thinking?

That she'd better fit the part of a guy dressing like a woman?
post #78 of 987
Monica Potter and Rhona Mitra I like but I didn't like Lake Bell so I won't miss Bell. I think Julie Bowen's quite sexy and a nice addition.
post #79 of 987
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

I think Julie Bowen's quite sexy and a nice addition.

I'd agree, but she seems really mis-cast as a lawyer.
post #80 of 987
As long as Spader and Shatner are the primary focus I'm happy. Spader has got to be one of the most dead-on fabulous actors of our time and never fails to knock the Alan Shore role right out of the park. The chemistry between Shatner's Denny and Spader's Shore is sublime, and both were in their usual excellent form delivering some wonderful dialogue in tonight's (10/4) second episode.
post #81 of 987
I actually felt bad for Spader's character in Ep#2. He is a fine actor and really does bring the persona of Alan Shore to life.
post #82 of 987
WOW! Loved it, great story. PQ was right on for me. Sound/music was fantastic - WAR!

Questions... Why the heck was Haether Locklear in this episode? Anyone could have played her very atoick part (better). Where was Monica Potter? Sje was on the credits but I didn't see her.

Excellent job, david E. Kelley. Keep this show rockin'!


nc
post #83 of 987
"Why are we here?" Great closing argument from james Spader at the end. He has really developed Alan Shore well on this show. When the series began, I thought he was a dud - very pompus and not too deep. But since this season bagn, he has become quite dimensional. And playing off Shatner at times - pure synergy.


nc
post #84 of 987
I agree, Locklear didn't seem to add to much to the show. Seemed like very few lines. Maybe just the advertising that she would be on the show was the gimmick.
post #85 of 987
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Originally Posted by nashvillecat View Post

Questions... Why the heck was Haether Locklear in this episode? Anyone could have played her very atoick part (better). Where was Monica Potter? Sje was on the credits but I didn't see her.

This was a last season episode (when Potter was a regular) but they added the scenes with this season new regular Julie Bowen. So I imagine Monica Potter's scenes are all on the cutting room floor. Last week she was only seen in a group shot.
post #86 of 987
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Originally Posted by nashvillecat View Post

Why the heck was Haether Locklear in this episode? Anyone could have played her very atoick part (better).

David Kelley should have asked his wife to play this part. Spader's performance was great last night and the script was outstanding.
post #87 of 987
(From Marc Berman's Programming Insider column of Wednesday, October 5, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

a second-place finish for Boston Legal, with a comfortable, albeit non-spectacular 8.9/14 in the overnights, 11.86 million viewers and a 3.7/ 9 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m.
post #88 of 987
Love Boston Legal but can do without David Kelleys political rants. This does not mean I agree or disagree with any of them, just that I am quite tired of Hollywood types using their positions in the media to forward their agendas whether or not I agree or disagree. Lets keep it to mindless entertainment...I get enough reality on MSNBC or FOX or CNN etc.
post #89 of 987
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

(From Marc Berman's Programming Insider column of Wednesday, October 5, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

a second-place finish for Boston Legal, with a comfortable, albeit non-spectacular 8.9/14 in the overnights, 11.86 million viewers and a 3.7/ 9 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m.


Good 'nuff.

There's really no reason this show should be treated with the clear disrespect that it was in the wake of Grey's Anatomy's success.
post #90 of 987
nice jab by spader last night at ABC "for bill maher to get cancelled for saying something politically incorrect on a show entitled Politically Incorrect!"
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