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post #11671 of 23941
I'm seriously considering the 360's HD-DVD add on, even though I hate the aesthetics of the separate drive... If MS does an XBOX "365" with built in HD-DVD, I'd probably go for it.

But except for PS3 and maybe the 360, I'm staying out of the format war for at least the first gen of players...
post #11672 of 23941
Can you tell me how to print a post?

I clicked "Print" at the to[ of your post, but it wants to print 100 pages

Thanks
post #11673 of 23941
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Originally Posted by ravin View Post

Hello all, I have a 60SXRD with a 9200 Bell ExpressVu receiver hooked up with a HDMI cable. Question at times about once every two weeks or so while watching TV the picture turns solid green. Lasts anywhere from 2 seconds to 1 minute then it goes back to normal. Any ideas?

Ravin.

i used to have somewhat the same problem with my old toshiba. i also have this problem with my sxrd. but i found the best way to deal with it is to let the sxrd turn on and warm up for a few seconds longer then your doing now. then turn on the cable box. its also important to turn off the cable box then tv. another problem is people are leaving on there cable box over night. by doing so your screwing with the digital protection of the cable.

the first time this happened to me my heart skipped a beat. i thought i got a defective one. i was extremely confused because the tv showed no signes of any other problems that people were listing. but i quickly remembered the old problem with my toshiba and it fixed my green screen issue. also if you get the green screen you can just turn off the cable box then turn it back on quickly and it should fix the problem.
post #11674 of 23941
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

Can you tell me how to print a post?

I clicked "Print" at the to[ of your post, but it wants to print 100 pages

Thanks


I asked the site admins this question when the site first went to the current format and software. The answer was that the print button only works correctly on the first page of a thread.

Don
post #11675 of 23941
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD View Post

Eh? I have only ever seen reference to SSE on these forums. Dr. Raymond Soneira (of the various HDTV 'shootout' fame) hadn't ever heard the term before he came here.

Once pointed out, I can spot it inside of 8 feet easily but from 9 to 10 feet I have to actively look for it and beyond that I can't find it at all except in very specific circumstances... I usually sit at 11-12 feet.

i can tell you from personal experience that sse is very real. i sit over 9 feet away and i can see it in the middle of the screen. when my tv is off there is a lighter circular shade right in the middle of the tv. then when the tv is on its only noticeable if you stare right in the middle of the screen ( which looks like a silky shimmering effect) or on bright scenes. when i play mlb 2k6 on my xbox 360 and i put there batters eye feature on (its a little white circle that appears in the middle of the screen while you are batting. for those of you who dont know.) then it becomes very noticeable.

i will try to put pictures up of what the screen looks like when its off. but i dont know if the camera will pick up the color difference.
post #11676 of 23941
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

Can you tell me how to print a post?

I clicked "Print" at the to[ of your post, but it wants to print 100 pages

Thanks

Copy/paste to notepad is one way. Capturing the screen is another way.

cheezz
post #11677 of 23941
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

Can you tell me how to print a post?

I clicked "Print" at the to[ of your post, but it wants to print 100 pages

Thanks

I select the post I want and then use the print option for printing the selected text lony.
post #11678 of 23941
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Originally Posted by jimf233 View Post

I select the post I want and then use the print option for printing the selected text lony.

-Select the text you want, and press Control-C (copy)
-Open up Word, Wordpad, Notepad, or other
-Press Control-V (paste) to paste into your text program
-Now use your text program's printing facility
post #11679 of 23941
As posted on the previous page, the new SXRD models are on the Sony Style and CNet websites with pictures. As I posted about a month ago the speakers on the XBR2 60 have in fact been pulled in but are still the same. The 70 comes with removable speakers. The entry level (Non XBR) models 50 and 55 have speakers on the bottom. Two HDMI 1080P inputs on the back and an HDMI in front.

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/22354.html
post #11680 of 23941
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Originally Posted by bboncorr1 View Post

i used to have somewhat the same problem with my old toshiba. i also have this problem with my sxrd. but i found the best way to deal with it is to let the sxrd turn on and warm up for a few seconds longer then your doing now. then turn on the cable box. its also important to turn off the cable box then tv. another problem is people are leaving on there cable box over night. by doing so your screwing with the digital protection of the cable.

the first time this happened to me my heart skipped a beat. i thought i got a defective one. i was extremely confused because the tv showed no signes of any other problems that people were listing. but i quickly remembered the old problem with my toshiba and it fixed my green screen issue. also if you get the green screen you can just turn off the cable box then turn it back on quickly and it should fix the problem.

Thanks bboncorr, The satellite company said I should leave the receiver on all the time. I will try what you said, Thanks again.
post #11681 of 23941
I had a question regarding 16:9 DVD's not filling the entire 60"SXRD display. Am I wrong in assuming that the SXRD is a 16:9 display? I still end up with letterboxing on the top and bottom of the picture. The best example I can think of is TNT is airing The Matrix today in HD and it fills my entire screen. My Matrix DVD played through a Sony NC85H UP-Converting DVD player via HDMI displays a black bar on top and bottom. What am I missing here?
post #11682 of 23941
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Originally Posted by largeeyes View Post

I had a question regarding 16:9 DVD's not filling the entire 60"SXRD display. Am I wrong in assuming that the SXRD is a 16:9 display? I still end up with letterboxing on the top and bottom of the picture. The best example I can think of is TNT is airing The Matrix today in HD and it fills my entire screen. My Matrix DVD played through a Sony NC85H UP-Converting DVD player via HDMI displays a black bar on top and bottom. What am I missing here?

Unfortunately, most people "want" a full screen 16:9 experience so TNT and HBO zoom the 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies to fill 16:9. This distorts the picture, you lose parts of the image, etc. It's a shame, since I would watch the movies in HD but can't stand the zooming. I guess they just want us to hop on the HD DVD train early.
post #11683 of 23941
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Originally Posted by JohnnytheSkin View Post

Unfortunately, most people "want" a full screen 16:9 experience so TNT and HBO zoom the 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies to fill 16:9. This distorts the picture, you lose parts of the image, etc. It's a shame, since I would watch the movies in HD but can't stand the zooming. I guess they just want us to hop on the HD DVD train early.

So then why don't my 16:9 movies fill the screen? The picture is as good or better than my DVD's, so it's hardly a matter of stretching a standard def feed.
post #11684 of 23941
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Originally Posted by largeeyes View Post

So then why don't my 16:9 movies fill the screen? The picture is as good or better than my DVD's, so it's hardly a matter of stretching a standard def feed.

You are following a well worn path.

Check the "black bars" link at the bottom of my message for details.

By the way many moves are not 16x9 which equals a 1.78:1 aspect ratio. Movies on DVD come in aspect ratios ranging from at least 1.33:1 (4x3) to wider than 2.35:1 (all the block buster type films).
post #11685 of 23941
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You are following a well worn path.

Check the "black bars" link at the bottom of my message for details.

By the way many moves are not 16x9 which equals a 1.78:1 aspect ratio. Movies on DVD come in aspect ratios ranging from at least 1.33:1 (4x3) to wider than 2.35:1 (all the block buster type films).

I had no doubt that I was and was hoping to find someone helpful like you along the path. I specifically checked and the Matrix is listed as a 16x9. Perhaps I need to be using some sort of zoom function, otherwise I don't understand why it's not filling the screen as is.
post #11686 of 23941
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You are following a well worn path.

Check the "black bars" link at the bottom of my message for details.

By the way many moves are not 16x9 which equals a 1.78:1 aspect ratio. Movies on DVD come in aspect ratios ranging from at least 1.33:1 (4x3) to wider than 2.35:1 (all the block buster type films).

I just reread your post and realized what you were saying. What should be in bars(TNTHD) isn't, but what shouldn't be(my 16:9 dvd) is. Hmmmmm
post #11687 of 23941
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Originally Posted by vincent_momo View Post

what Color Temperature do yall suggest. Warm Cool or Neutral?


My calibrator says warm is best with the SXRD.
post #11688 of 23941
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD View Post

I'm seriously considering the 360's HD-DVD add on, even though I hate the aesthetics of the separate drive... If MS does an XBOX "365" with built in HD-DVD, I'd probably go for it.

But except for PS3 and maybe the 360, I'm staying out of the format war for at least the first gen of players...


I'm also gonna check out the HD-DVD add-on for the XBOX 360 when it comes out.
post #11689 of 23941
Does HDMI really work with the SA 8300HD?

I have the KDS-R50XBR1 - January 2006 build.

I have TW cable in the West San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) and am having intermittent problems with it. - When I change from a standard definition channel to a HD channel, sometimes the display flashes a black screen, picture, black screen picture every second or so. Changing the HD channel sometimes fixes it, other times I have to reboot the 8300.

I got another 8300 - same problem.

Do I need a more-expensive cable? I got 2 inexpensive cables from monoprice($6.00) and tried connecting to both of the input ports. Always the same problem. Is there a spec for the cables that tell what I need?

Do I need a stronger signal? My input from the street is split in my attic and goes to 3 TVs. Just before it gets to the TV, the line is again split 4-ways - using a 4-way splitter that is also an amplifier (plugged into an electrical outlet.) Does the handshaking require a stronger signal?

Component video works fine, but I need that port for another piece of equipment.
post #11690 of 23941
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Originally Posted by bboncorr1 View Post

i used to have somewhat the same problem with my old toshiba. i also have this problem with my sxrd. but i found the best way to deal with it is to let the sxrd turn on and warm up for a few seconds longer then your doing now. then turn on the cable box. its also important to turn off the cable box then tv. another problem is people are leaving on there cable box over night. by doing so your screwing with the digital protection of the cable.

the first time this happened to me my heart skipped a beat. i thought i got a defective one. i was extremely confused because the tv showed no signes of any other problems that people were listing. but i quickly remembered the old problem with my toshiba and it fixed my green screen issue. also if you get the green screen you can just turn off the cable box then turn it back on quickly and it should fix the problem.


How are you supposed to use your cable box as a DVR that is programmed to record shows, if you leave the power off?
post #11691 of 23941
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

Does HDMI really work with the SA 8300HD?

I have the KDS-R50XBR1 - January 2006 build.

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When I had a SA 8300HD box it worked fine with my SXRD using HDMI cable from monoprice.com.

All those splitters could be the problem. I would imagine HD needs a purer path.
post #11692 of 23941
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

Does HDMI really work with the SA 8300HD?

I have the KDS-R50XBR1 - January 2006 build.

I have TW cable in the West San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) and am having intermittent problems with it. - When I change from a standard definition channel to a HD channel, sometimes the display flashes a black screen, picture, black screen picture every second or so. Changing the HD channel sometimes fixes it, other times I have to reboot the 8300.

I got another 8300 - same problem.

Do I need a more-expensive cable? I got 2 inexpensive cables from monoprice($6.00) and tried connecting to both of the input ports. Always the same problem. Is there a spec for the cables that tell what I need?

Do I need a stronger signal? My input from the street is split in my attic and goes to 3 TVs. Just before it gets to the TV, the line is again split 4-ways - using a 4-way splitter that is also an amplifier (plugged into an electrical outlet.) Does the handshaking require a stronger signal?

Component video works fine, but I need that port for another piece of equipment.


I live in the SF Valley with Time Warner 8300HD also. I am connected via HDMI and occasionally I get what you are talking about. Maybe once every other month, or sometimes less, my set will start doing that (picture, blank, pic, blank, etc). I just do a reset of the box (hold down the pwr button until 'boot' appears on the screen, then wait until the clock show up again and power on) and this usually takes care of the problem.

I think you should schedule an appointment to have a tech come out and check your signal strength. I would imagine all those splitters could be the problem. If possible have them install the splitters that have on one side '-6db' drop and on the other '0db'. Not only could this help your signal 'blackouts' but it will significantly increase your SD channels. It did on my set.
post #11693 of 23941
Questions:

I have had my 60" sxrd since january, and I have a few q's

1. while plugging into the VGA port, is there anyway to make it fit to screen?
2. Anyway to plug a Macbook into the TV (besides VGA)
I know you can plug it in DVI to component, but my DVI to component adapter doesnt fit into macs dvi adaptor

I also know I can use Firewire, but I dont think it would work with the desktop (only streaming video)

Any other methods, or a way to get the mac on to the TV perfectly?
post #11694 of 23941
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Originally Posted by largeeyes View Post

I had a question regarding 16:9 DVD's not filling the entire 60"SXRD display. Am I wrong in assuming that the SXRD is a 16:9 display? I still end up with letterboxing on the top and bottom of the picture. The best example I can think of is TNT is airing The Matrix today in HD and it fills my entire screen. My Matrix DVD played through a Sony NC85H UP-Converting DVD player via HDMI displays a black bar on top and bottom. What am I missing here?

Do a search on your player in the DVD player forum. Last year's Sony upconverting player had a problem with filling the screen with 1.85:1 material and had a 1" black bar top and bottom. 1.85:1 material on my SXRD through my LG 7832 fills the screen completely.
post #11695 of 23941
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Originally Posted by BCScott View Post

Do a search on your player in the DVD player forum. Last year's Sony upconverting player had a problem with filling the screen with 1.85:1 material and had a 1" black bar top and bottom. 1.85:1 material on my SXRD through my LG 7832 fills the screen completely.

Yeah, but this year's model (which he has) no longer has that problem. According to Amazon, the Matrix is 2.35:1. If this is correct, there absolutely should be black barsas will any ratio greater than 1.78:1.
post #11696 of 23941
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Originally Posted by gvg45 View Post

I live in the SF Valley with Time Warner 8300HD also. I am connected via HDMI and occasionally I get what you are talking about. Maybe once every other month, or sometimes less, my set will start doing that (picture, blank, pic, blank, etc). I just do a reset of the box (hold down the pwr button until 'boot' appears on the screen, then wait until the clock show up again and power on) and this usually takes care of the problem.

I think you should schedule an appointment to have a tech come out and check your signal strength. I would imagine all those splitters could be the problem. If possible have them install the splitters that have on one side '-6db' drop and on the other '0db'. Not only could this help your signal 'blackouts' but it will significantly increase your SD channels. It did on my set.

I removed the splitter and plugged the coax cable directly into the 8300HD - same problems.

I called Time Warner and they told me that I could hook up my stuff using HDMI cables, but that they do not support it. They are sending a tech to check signal strength for another problem, but the tech is not allowed to talk to me about HDMI.

I'll talk to him about increasing the SD channels. I ran Add Digital Channels on the coax CABLE port on the back of the TV and got some strange channels - like 101.1??
post #11697 of 23941
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

I removed the splitter and plugged the coax cable directly into the 8300HD - same problems.

I called Time Warner and they told me that I could hook up my stuff using HDMI cables, but that they do not support it. They are sending a tech to check signal strength for another problem, but the tech is not allowed to talk to me about HDMI.

I'll talk to him about increasing the SD channels. I ran Add Digital Channels on the coax CABLE port on the back of the TV and got some strange channels - like 101.1??

So you ran your cable directly into your set not using ANY splitters and same problem?

Do you have this problem when connected via component (Video 4 or 5) too? If not, try running your HDMI cable from your DVR into the other HDMI input on your TV. Did you try the DVR reboot (hold dwn power until you see 'boot', wait until the time comes on, then power on?)

The channels you are getting when doing a scan (101.1 etc) is normal. Usually you can find Discovery HD, FOX HD and probably a few more. You can make it easier to find these channels by storing them on your 'favorite channels' list.
post #11698 of 23941
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Originally Posted by bboncorr1 View Post

i used to have somewhat the same problem with my old toshiba. i also have this problem with my sxrd. but i found the best way to deal with it is to let the sxrd turn on and warm up for a few seconds longer then your doing now. then turn on the cable box. its also important to turn off the cable box then tv. another problem is people are leaving on there cable box over night. by doing so your screwing with the digital protection of the cable.

Someone else has asked a similar question, but part of the functionality of a DVR or HD/DVR is that you can record shows during times that the TV is off and then watch them when you choose to watch them. If it were me and there was indeed a correlation that led me to believe there was a problem as described that appeared on two different TV's, I would be having a serious discussion with the cable company about replacing the DVR until you got one that allowed you to use all the functionality that they promise.
post #11699 of 23941
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Originally Posted by rastetter View Post

Questions:

I have had my 60" sxrd since january, and I have a few q's

1. while plugging into the VGA port, is there anyway to make it fit to screen?
2. Anyway to plug a Macbook into the TV (besides VGA)
I know you can plug it in DVI to component, but my DVI to component adapter doesnt fit into macs dvi adaptor

I also know I can use Firewire, but I dont think it would work with the desktop (only streaming video)

Any other methods, or a way to get the mac on to the TV perfectly?

1. No
2. Try a DVI-HDMI cable. DVI is the same raw video signal as HDMI (only HDMI also carries the audio). You can get one of these cables for around 10 dollars at monoprice.com. I have my PC hooked up through this method, and it works great.
post #11700 of 23941
I have a inquiry for those of you SXRD owners who also happen to play video games. Page 82 of the SXRD manual states that: "Direct mode and Game Mode and not available when watching 480p and 720p sources..."

As I understand it, the SXRD has no noticeable video lag with the Xbox 360 because of the high quality 720p or 1080i signal the 360 outputs (which certainly doesn't require as much processing as 480i). For 480i signals, Sony has implemented a Game Mode which bypasses much of the time-intensive processing. This Game Mode addresses some of the older systems (PS2, GameCube, etc) though these systems can also sometimes output in 480p. The upcoming Nintendo Wii has a native output resolution of 480p.

Are any of you video gaming owners running any video game systems at 480p on an SXRD? Is there any video lag for precision games (dancing games, first person shooters, etc.)? My fear is that 480p is the worst case video game scenario for the SXRD. It requires the most intensive upscaling (as opposed to 720p and 1080i), and doesn't have any special Game Mode to bypass the processing for 480p.

I would appreciate any SXRD wisdom you folks could impart upon me.
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