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post #11851 of 23942
6/14/06 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

And how old or new are these sets?

No older than last fall since that's when they came out. They were all on the showroom floor of different B&M stores (I bought one, a Feb. build with no green blob). Like I said, if it has it you WILL see it.
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post #11852 of 23942
6/14/06 at 3:07pm
RE: SXRD 50"

My closest store is kind of far.
So, can someone tell me the height from the bottom of the TV to the middle of the screen?
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post #11853 of 23942
6/14/06 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by SXRDISBEST View Post

I was wondering if anybody has heard of a good glass screen cover that you can buy for these tv's. I like the look better than the flat look you get with these tvs. Any help would be awesome. Isuppose making a custom one wouldn't be that crazy but its always easier to get something custom made.

If you like that look - I would just get a plasma. A lot easier than trying to rig some glass panel in front of an sxrd.
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post #11854 of 23942
6/14/06 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by JJVec View Post

If two HD channels work on your TV then it seems like a problem with the channnel, not your TV.

I sure hope so. The channel that produces the thin vertical lines in the top third of the screen (red) is 20.1 KBWB-HD, which I believe is transmitted from the Coit Tower in San Francisco, the same as the other OTA HD channels I receive. The problem is always there, no matter the programming.

Using "Diagnostics," the signal strength for KBWB-HD is 78. That is less than the two channels that come in without the faint vertical lines (both 89), but seems adequate. Besides, with a digital signal, shouldn't it either be all or nothing?

Maybe I'll have to subscribe to Comcast, just to make sure this problem is never there with other channels...
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post #11855 of 23942
6/14/06 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by Stan54 View Post

Very interesting. I shall try the same thing. I only wish I knew where to start and end on channel #'s.

I have exactly the same problem as slash. After reading his posts (and with high hopes), I tried everything to get any digital channel over Comcast: direct input of all numbers 60.1->, 60.2-> to 120.1. NADA. Super scan: NADA. Called Comcast: NADA. They don't admit to scrambling the channels, but can't explain why I don't get them. CRUD!
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post #11856 of 23942
6/14/06 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by QZ1 View Post

RE: SXRD 50"

My closest store is kind of far.
So, can someone tell me the height from the bottom of the TV to the middle of the screen?

from the bottom of the tv to the bottom part of the screen it is 7 1/4 inches.

half the screen from top to bottom is 12 1/4 inches.

so you answer would be approx. 19 1/2 inches.

if you dont mind im a little curious to why you need those measurements.
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post #11857 of 23942
6/14/06 at 6:09pm
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Originally Posted by yet2b View Post

Maybe I'll have to subscribe to Comcast, just to make sure this problem is never there with other channels...

You don't have to do that. Just check out this forum for other viewers in our area.

Local HDTV Info and Reception
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post #11858 of 23942
6/14/06 at 6:13pm
what are people useing a a/v receiver setting the audio delay at. i only need a delay when watching cable tv. its in the 55-65 area. its funny how bad it echos when i turn on the receiver. sometimes i drive my girl crazy by turning it on and before the receiver starts putting out sound i walk out of the room. she has no clue how to use my sony universal remote. no more WE channel in my house.

i would also like to add that this tv just seems to be getting better as time goes by. is there a breakin period like with speakers? i havnt changed the settings for a month now and the picture has improved somehow over the last week.
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post #11859 of 23942
6/15/06 at 11:12am
Does any know if the 50" SXBR accepts 480i over hdmi? I'm thinking of getting the new Oppo 970HD which outputs 480i over hdmi? Does anybody have this combination?

Thanks
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post #11860 of 23942
6/15/06 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by kbdrand View Post

I have noticed that on my OTA channels when they are displaying 4:3 programming I see a thin, lighter colored, line running just along the right edge of the 4:3 content. I don't see any kind of lines on 16:9 programming and on 4:3 content via satellite (Dish Network) I don't see the line. It's not really that annoying or anything, but has anyone else seen this?

I see it all the time. I think it marks where the 4:3 picture will be placed on the screen. A couple of people have reported that this line became permanent and could be seen during 16:9 programming. This is a cause for worry and I, frequently, put a 4:3 picture in zoom mode to avoid the question.
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post #11861 of 23942
6/15/06 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

I have exactly the same problem as slash. After reading his posts (and with high hopes), I tried everything to get any digital channel over Comcast: direct input of all numbers 60.1->, 60.2-> to 120.1. NADA. Super scan: NADA. Called Comcast: NADA. They don't admit to scrambling the channels, but can't explain why I don't get them. CRUD!

I had high hopes after reading Slash, but I was unable to come up with the channels over a straight cable hookup. I went back to the cablecard.
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post #11862 of 23942
6/15/06 at 1:35pm
To the guys that own this tv...will it support the new blue-ray dvd players...(pardon my ignorance but some one told me it wont since its not true 1080p) whatever that means.

Thank you in advance.
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post #11863 of 23942
6/15/06 at 1:37pm
Yes it will. Set your BD player to output at 1080i with it connected to the '05 SXRD. The TV set will upconvert the image to true 1080P.
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post #11864 of 23942
6/15/06 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You don't have to do that. Just check out this forum for other viewers in our area.

Local HDTV Info and Reception

Hi HT,
I tried that a while ago, and just now to check. the closest I got was a person in Burlingame... definitely not in my area. No one on the Half Moon Bay coast seems to be on this forum but me. I have just cancelled my digital subscription, and will return the cable box tomorrow. While in their office, I plan to give them a thorough tongue lashing . If they ever do get HD TV out here, I will probably try the cable card, but for now USA, TNT, and the locals all are on analog in our Comcast area.
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post #11865 of 23942
6/15/06 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by yet2b View Post

The channel that produces the thin vertical lines in the top third of the screen (red) is 20.1 KBWB-HD, which I believe is transmitted from the Coit Tower in San Francisco, the same as the other OTA HD channels I receive.

I think you may mean Sutro Tower on Mt. Sutro.

I don't know if anything has changed at the Sutro Tower, but about two years ago I went to a HDTV meeting at Apple's headquarters. There was an engineer at that meeting with a diagram showing the location of each and every channel on the tower. The digital (HD) transmitters were all around the bottom of the tower. They will be moved up to a higher location, but I don't know when.

The only major channel not broadcasting from Sutro Tower is NBC. They are using a tower on another near-by mountain.

As far as I know, Coit Tower is just a tourist attraction near North Beach.
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post #11866 of 23942
6/15/06 at 7:47pm
Well it looks like we'll be swapping out our September 60" for a May 60" tomorrow. We got lucky with the SN's and Jesus did indeed have fresh stock on hand, so it looks like a done deal. I went and looked at it this afternoon and it looks pretty good. In the service menu, the internal test screens still looked a little purple, but while watching broadcast HD and DVD, the picture looked great. No sea of purples at all...

If there are further issues, I'll take them up with Sony (who wouldn't authorize a light engine replacement which was the first option). Until then, Jesus takes good care of me and doesn't even charge me for delivery!

I'll report back tomorrow night after some viewing.

J.
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post #11867 of 23942
6/15/06 at 9:40pm
Ok...just a few finishing touches and we will be there...

If anyone is interested....the room is almost ready for viewing..GRIN

Only downside....wife won the floor wars....

Can you believe I have slate in my media room?

Note the nice 60" SRXD...it is up and running on OTA HD for now...knock on wood...no pic issues yet.

Thank god for carpet and sound-deadening walls and ceiling!

Frank
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post #11868 of 23942
6/16/06 at 2:18am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I think you may mean Sutro Tower on Mt. Sutro.

I don't know if anything has changed at the Sutro Tower, but about two years ago I went to a HDTV meeting at Apple's headquarters. There was an engineer at that meeting with a diagram showing the location of each and every channel on the tower. The digital (HD) transmitters were all around the bottom of the tower. They will be moved up to a higher location, but I don't know when.

The only major channel not broadcasting from Sutro Tower is NBC. They are using a tower on another near-by mountain.

As far as I know, Coit Tower is just a tourist attraction near North Beach.

Yeah, my antenna is aimed at Sutro, a tower by whatever name :-) The HD channels I get on my SXRD (from Berkeley) are 4.2, 5.1, 20.1; and, after 8pm, 9.1. On 20.1, I can always find thin vertical glowing broken lines on certain backgrounds on the top third of the screen (discernable on faces in particular). Odd. Doesn't seem to be there on the other channels; so apparently it's not the fault of the TV. If the lines do show up on other channels, I'll return the TV to CC.

In my opinion, NTSC and SD digital are reasonable on the SXRD (50"), when considering the extra blowup in size over my old 27" CRT Sony. HD depends entirely on the source; and varies from ok to spectacular. The geometry of the picture seems pretty good. No green blobs.

Sound quality is ok, but could be better.
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post #11869 of 23942
6/16/06 at 6:28am
Wow Ballvice - I love the woodwork in that room. Not sure how the room sounds but it looks awesome.
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post #11870 of 23942
6/16/06 at 8:37am
Hey Ballvice-That is one awesome looking room. Great Job!! Let us know how the sound is.
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post #11871 of 23942
6/16/06 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by bboncorr1 View Post

from the bottom of the tv to the bottom part of the screen it is 7 1/4 inches.

half the screen from top to bottom is 12 1/4 inches.

so you answer would be approx. 19 1/2 inches.

if you dont mind im a little curious to why you need those measurements.

Thanks much. The reason I needed this info. was to determine what height stand I need, compared to my current lousy stand which is holding a nice XBR800 LCD RPTV.

The XBR800 has a pedestal base, whereas the SXRD doesn't, so I know I will need something higher, (even this TV does), which is fine as I have looked at many stands, and they are all higher now than they were 3.5 years ago.

I just measured my TV, and it appears only to be 4.25" taller, so I can get the stand I want now, and it will be fine until I get an SXRD.

Seeing as I already have a 50" 16:9 TV, I didn't really need the full measurement, the screen height is the same. I really just needed the 'below screen height', but I just thought of that.
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post #11872 of 23942
6/16/06 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

Hi HT,
I tried that a while ago, and just now to check. the closest I got was a person in Burlingame... definitely not in my area. No one on the Half Moon Bay coast seems to be on this forum but me. I have just cancelled my digital subscription, and will return the cable box tomorrow. While in their office, I plan to give them a thorough tongue lashing . If they ever do get HD TV out here, I will probably try the cable card, but for now USA, TNT, and the locals all are on analog in our Comcast area.


So, I spoke to the local Comcast folks today... they didn't even know that there were digital channels that weren't HD They also said you don't get digital channels witout a box! Some kind of catch 22, but I'm too upset to figure it out. I asked them about when we'd get HD, "Last I've heard was three (3!!!!) years." They said that our system was old, didn't have new dishes, wires, cables, etc. I said, so put 'em in! They said, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon!" So, we here on the beautiful Pacific coast are SCREWED without a kiss! Heck, they give us the digital box and charge us extra and we don't even have On-Demand service. HBO is the same price, no HD. As you may be able to tell....




Oh, I do get the History channel in digital... channel 95.9 via QAM. I sure wish the auto-set function would find all but those D*MNED music channels...
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post #11873 of 23942
6/16/06 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

So, I spoke to the local Comcast folks today...

But you do have the Pacific ocean.

Maybe you will have better OTA when the digital transmitters move up to the top of Sutro Tower. That may not happen until congress pulls the plug on analog.

I don't care for Satellite but maybe you can get better service from Dish or DirecTV.

Edit: Then there is my favorite -- Netflix.
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post #11874 of 23942
6/16/06 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by imunick View Post

I'm new to this forum. i bought 60" SXRD from BB few days ago.
Everything is excellent about this TV except i see GHOST images when i view
SD from my dish receiver. I just hooked my new TV with existing cables.
Is it a issue with Dish receiever or with TV which deserves a exchange?

I seen ghosting on dvd when i demoed. There was also a few screenshots that clearly showed ghosting outlines. Im not sure if it was settings or what but it seemed pretty bad.
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post #11875 of 23942
6/16/06 at 8:39pm
So a quick update...we had our September SXRD swapped out for a May SXRD this afternoon, and the results are spectacular! No more purple-blacks at all. After viewing the May-build TV in Jesus's shop yesterday and then watching our TV last night, it was a no-brainer. Our set was Barney's arsehole through and through. The new set is right on, though it needs some tweaking and deserves a professional calibration (maybe a Father's Day gift?). Overall, we're very pleased.

J.
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post #11876 of 23942
6/16/06 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

So a quick update...we had our September SXRD swapped out for a May SXRD this afternoon, and the results are spectacular! No more purple-blacks at all. After viewing the May-build TV in Jesus's shop yesterday and then watching our TV last night, it was a no-brainer. Our set was Barney's arsehole through and through. The new set is right on, though it needs some tweaking and deserves a professional calibration (maybe a Father's Day gift?). Overall, we're very pleased.

J.

Good For You! My October 2005 is being replaced by a new, pre-tested hand-picked set from the factory. I never had purple blacks, but I had the "green blob".
This sounds very encouraging! Thanks for the update.
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post #11877 of 23942
6/16/06 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

So a quick update...we had our September SXRD swapped out for a May SXRD this afternoon, and the results are spectacular! No more purple-blacks at all. After viewing the May-build TV in Jesus's shop yesterday and then watching our TV last night, it was a no-brainer. Our set was Barney's arsehole through and through. The new set is right on, though it needs some tweaking and deserves a professional calibration (maybe a Father's Day gift?). Overall, we're very pleased.

J.

Congrats. I'll be without a tv for a month but at least I'll be able to replace the SXRD with the 60" A2000 from a local dealer.
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post #11878 of 23942
6/16/06 at 9:01pm
Thanks for the replies. I'm really excited that I don't see the ghastly purple-blacks any more! After seeing the set at Jesus's shop yesterday afternoon and then watching out TV last night, it was so clear that there was something wrong with our set. The new one is really spot on with the dark scenes and instead of a sea of purple (ie- Barney's butthole), it's a clear grey-to-black. Like I said, we'll probably get it calibrated and I've got some preliminary tweaking to do, but it looks really great and so we're really pleased.

J.
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post #11879 of 23942
6/16/06 at 9:19pm
Hmm maybe sony is finally getting these sets more consistent now .Too bad they gave me two lemons and a lemon light engine .October and november builds and who knows when the light engine was built.
I miss my sxrd a bit but got a full refund finally after all these months and in a way had an sxrd for rent for free for six months.
Not a chance though would buy another one no more rear projection just can't get it right with color uniformity and all that stuff.
I may get an lcd non projection now in 37 inch size or may just wait till after christmas this year and see whats happening.
Sony treated me badly and they are not high on my brand list anymore. I was very loyal to sony but guess they don't seem to care anymore. It took kicking and screaming to get my light engine replacement and my replacement set .But they promised a newer build and shipped an november lemon in may!
Shame on you sony!
So glad some of you guys got good ones. 3/3 bad ones were enough for me.
But the samsung 6168 I had prior was also not so great.The cheaper 55 and 60 grand wegas I had for a bit at least had no color or green spot issues.They just had really crappy black/shadow detail. Saw rainbows on the samsung and it had bad game lag.

Wonder how much improvement in the new sxrd.Still only so much you can do with projection sets.
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post #11880 of 23942
6/16/06 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by AL B. View Post

Hmm maybe sony is finally getting these sets more consistent now .Too bad they gave me two lemons and a lemon light engine .October and november builds and who knows when the light engine was built.
I miss my sxrd a bit but got a full refund finally after all these months and in a way had an sxrd for rent for free for six months.
Not a chance though would buy another one no more rear projection just can't get it right with color uniformity and all that stuff.
I may get an lcd non projection now in 37 inch size or may just wait till after christmas this year and see whats happening.
Sony treated me badly and they are not high on my brand list anymore. I was very loyal to sony but guess they don't seem to care anymore. It took kicking and screaming to get my light engine replacement and my replacement set .But they promised a newer build and shipped an november lemon in may!
Shame on you sony!
So glad some of you guys got good ones. 3/3 bad ones were enough for me.
But the samsung 6168 I had prior was also not so great.The cheaper 55 and 60 grand wegas I had for a bit at least had no color or green spot issues.They just had really crappy black/shadow detail. Saw rainbows on the samsung and it had bad game lag.

Wonder how much improvement in the new sxrd.Still only so much you can do with projection sets.

And Sony treated me like a king!!! However, I do work for a major television network in Los Angeles. And there my friends...IS THE RUB!
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