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post #20581 of 23945
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

Mine, too. Are you having any 4:3 yellow retention on memory stick? I think it might be the OB... Check for any yellow retention. Easy to do. Watch 4:3 for a awhile...then check the memory stick input for any yellow lines or logo retention. If you are getting that, it could be the OB.

I already had the light engine replaced a while ago, and the bulb replaced about a year and a half ago. I did have the yellow coloring on the right side, when i went into the memory stick viewer. That was cured when i got the new light engine.
post #20582 of 23945
Well Friends...

I just returned from Best Buy. I have an extended warranty and they will buy back my 60" SXRD XBR1 and move me into another television without having to go through any OB replacements. He told me that it is not worth their time and effort to repair this sets anymore...and people still end up being dissatisfied with the replacement OBs. So the question now is: What should I get with comparable PQ? Kuros? LCD? LED?
post #20583 of 23945
I haven't seen any LCD that has a comparable PQ plus, unless you spend $$$$$$$$, the size. Everyone says the Kuro is the closest but keep in mind they are being discontinued. Maybe Panasonic plasma?
post #20584 of 23945
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Originally Posted by cctvtech View Post

I haven't seen any LCD that has a comparable PQ plus, unless you spend $$$$$$$$, the size. Everyone says the Kuro is the closest but keep in mind they are being discontinued. Maybe Panasonic plasma?

I don't think I want to go plasma...Still afraid of burn-in...I don't care what they say! Thinking about the Sony XBR8 LCD...55 inches comes close. Decisions...I'm not a huge LCD fan either, however I am less of a fan of bad OB's and constant worrying. This TV has aged me.
post #20585 of 23945
82 inches of Mitsu DLP? Even if it's wobulated.

XBR8's are nice but overpriced, as are most of the 52" and bigger LCD's IMO. Kuro and Pioneer Elite plasmas are the only ones comparable to a properly functioning XBR1 but yeah... plasma drawbacks (comparitively huge power consumption, set lifespan, burn in fears, etc). Wish Mitsu would do a 3-chip rear projection DLP in that 82" monster.
post #20586 of 23945
So, after working from home yesterday so my OB could be replaced, we now have an interesting development.
After replacing the OB, the tech and I turned on my 50" XBR1 to see how it looked with the replacement. Thought the color looked a little funny, so we decided to leave the TV on for a while to warm up.
After 8 hours, it is confirmed... We have a 2-3" pink bar across the bottom of the screen and a purple haze in the top right corner...
Wonder how hard the retailer is going to work to weasel their way out of replacing the TV now that it needs its 4th repair.
post #20587 of 23945
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Originally Posted by Avatar26 View Post

So, after working from home yesterday so my OB could be replaced, we now have an interesting development.
After replacing the OB, the tech and I turned on my 50" XBR1 to see how it looked with the replacement. Thought the color looked a little funny, so we decided to leave the TV on for a while to warm up.
After 8 hours, it is confirmed... We have a 2-3" pink bar across the bottom of the screen and a purple haze in the top right corner...
Wonder how hard the retailer is going to work to weasel their way out of replacing the TV now that it needs its 4th repair.

Be careful, you may want to wait a month before asking for another replacement. If it's immediately done, they typically consider it part of the "repair" that didn't work (i.e., they will say you are still on your 3rd repair).
post #20588 of 23945
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD View Post

82 inches of Mitsu DLP? Even if it's wobulated.

XBR8's are nice but overpriced, as are most of the 52" and bigger LCD's IMO. Kuro and Pioneer Elite plasmas are the only ones comparable to a properly functioning XBR1 but yeah... plasma drawbacks (comparitively huge power consumption, set lifespan, burn in fears, etc). Wish Mitsu would do a 3-chip rear projection DLP in that 82" monster.

Still not sure...We had a couple days of hot weather and that's when the retention really kicked in...now it's back to normal. I still really love this set and not much else compares...Maybe I'll just ride it out until it dies.
post #20589 of 23945
Does the Lawsuit end in June? If so, are we all SOL as far as having our OB's replaced etc..?
post #20590 of 23945
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Originally Posted by Xerowarp View Post

Does the Lawsuit end in June? If so, are we all SOL as far as having our OB's replaced etc..?

Yes and probably, in that order.
post #20591 of 23945
Has anyone with a Circuit City Advantage Protection Plan tried to use it yet...Just curious in case my 1yr old OB replacement goes out before 2011.
post #20592 of 23945
I gave the Advantage line a call a couple months ago and asked precisely how CC's bankruptcy would affect quality of service. The rep was actually very polite and up-front. She explained that the only drawback is that there is no longer a parts department...meaning no replacement parts stored in inventory nor customer parts orders whatsoever. Not a biggie since OB replacements are always shipped directly from a Sony distributor anyway.

All other terms like the three time repair replacement rule and the buy back option are intact.

If you would rather terminate your service... They supposedly will refund warranty fees (based upon your remaining coverage time), if you mail a signed request along with a copy of your service contract. I've considered doing so, but doubt I will. Too much of a risk. I just don't have any faith in the longevity of these TVs.
post #20593 of 23945
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

Decisions...I'm not a huge LCD fan either, however I am less of a fan of bad OB's and constant worrying. This TV has aged me.

Ha ha, I hear you man. No one single thing I have ever owned has been such a love/hate relationship as my 50xbr1. Just like a hot bar-chick, easy on the eyes, yet nothin' but trouble.
post #20594 of 23945
Anyone in N. Alabama area have their set ISF calibrated?
post #20595 of 23945
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Originally Posted by rlb View Post

Be careful, you may want to wait a month before asking for another replacement. If it's immediately done, they typically consider it part of the "repair" that didn't work (i.e., they will say you are still on your 3rd repair).

I received the email from Corporate Consumer Relations yesterday, my XBR1 is being replaced. The replacement model they chose is a 60" Mits LCD projection, going to take the $1400 in credit and pick out an LCD. Any recommendations in the $1400-1600 range?
post #20596 of 23945
Well, good luck finding something of the same quality as your XBR1. I know Sony quality has taken a lot of hits on here and rightly so...However, it would cost more than 1,400 to replace my XBR1 with a set of equal quality.
post #20597 of 23945
Well I have to say I'm surprised at the activity still in here, and I admit to not checking which is why I started my own thread, but if anyone here doesn't mind taking a look and helping me out there, I'd rather not split the discussion in two places.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1141819

Thanks,
aC
post #20598 of 23945
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Originally Posted by aC39 View Post

Well I have to say I'm surprised at the activity still in here, and I admit to not checking which is why I started my own thread, but if anyone here doesn't mind taking a look and helping me out there, I'd rather not split the discussion in two places.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1141819

Thanks,
aC

Response posted at your new thread.
post #20599 of 23945
I noticed something Monday night watching "24" that I have seen before from time to time, but I wanted to see if others have noticed this;

Since the time frame of 24 is currently at 3:00-4:00 am I think, its dark outside. Soem of the show is outside and some of it is inside. When outside, there is some ambient light but not a lot.

In some of the scenes, the blacks seem very botchy, almost as if the image is way, way, way out of focus. But in some of the scenes, the blacks are a beautiful, deep, dark black.

Does anyone else notice this?
post #20600 of 23945
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

I noticed something Monday night watching "24" that I have seen before from time to time, but I wanted to see if others have noticed this;

Since the time frame of 24 is currently at 3:00-4:00 am I think, its dark outside. Soem of the show is outside and some of it is inside. When outside, there is some ambient light but not a lot.

In some of the scenes, the blacks seem very botchy, almost as if the image is way, way, way out of focus. But in some of the scenes, the blacks are a beautiful, deep, dark black.

Does anyone else notice this?

Yea...in a lot of "dark-toned" programming....really sucks sometimes. I don't know if this has anything to do with the OB. I honestly can't remember if my first OB exhibited this symptom. I also get a lot of grainy stuff in some dark scenes.
I've owned a lot of Sony products, it's a shame they couldn't get their act together on this TV.
post #20601 of 23945
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

I noticed something Monday night watching "24" that I have seen before from time to time, but I wanted to see if others have noticed this;

Since the time frame of 24 is currently at 3:00-4:00 am I think, its dark outside. Soem of the show is outside and some of it is inside. When outside, there is some ambient light but not a lot.

In some of the scenes, the blacks seem very botchy, almost as if the image is way, way, way out of focus. But in some of the scenes, the blacks are a beautiful, deep, dark black.

Does anyone else notice this?

Yes cp, I do, & it seems to be a somewhat common OB defect. Try searching
this forum for "blotchy blacks". I posted about it a few months ago, as I'm still on the original OB & that June deadline is fast approaching.

It seems to be getting worse over time w/ the OB. Not so bad w/ Blu-ray disks - The Dark Night was flawless, & that was a pretty dark movie (in more ways than one). But w/ cable there's usually a lot of video compression used, & Fox seems the worst for this - real scattered blacks sometimes on those certain scenes.
post #20602 of 23945
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Originally Posted by boa12 View Post

Yes cp, I do, & it seems to be a somewhat common OB defect. Try searching
this forum for "blotchy blacks". I posted about it a few months ago, as I'm still on the original OB & that June deadline is fast approaching.

It seems to be getting worse over time w/ the OB. Not so bad w/ Blu-ray disks - The Dark Night was flawless, & that was a pretty dark movie (in more ways than one). But w/ cable there's usually a lot of video compression used, & Fox seems the worst for this - real scattered blacks sometimes on those certain scenes.

I had this problem big time with my last OB. It was the reason I had my old one replaced as my green was not really a problem. While the new one is much better, it is hardly flawless. It is hard to predict what sources will really bring it out, but when it is there, it is painful to sit through.
post #20603 of 23945
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Originally Posted by boa12 View Post

Yes cp, I do, & it seems to be a somewhat common OB defect. Try searching
this forum for "blotchy blacks". I posted about it a few months ago, as I'm still on the original OB & that June deadline is fast approaching.

It seems to be getting worse over time w/ the OB. Not so bad w/ Blu-ray disks - The Dark Night was flawless, & that was a pretty dark movie (in more ways than one). But w/ cable there's usually a lot of video compression used, & Fox seems the worst for this - real scattered blacks sometimes on those certain scenes.

This is a brand new OB, it has about 300 hours on it....
post #20604 of 23945
Can anyone recommend a service outlet in the Los Angeles area for OB replacement that they were happy with?
post #20605 of 23945
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

Can anyone recommend a service outlet in the Los Angeles area for OB replacement that they were happy with?

Hey the other page you said BB is going to buy back your set under the extended warranty. How did you make out with that? I'm asking because last week the geek squad tech can't get my set to work again after doing a OB replacement, he even tried to put old OB back in and still can't get it to fire up, and than he tried to replace power supply. How much credit did they offer your for your set? Just trying to get an idea of what a typical offer from them would be. Hopefully its enough to buy something equal or > to what I had
post #20606 of 23945
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

This is a brand new OB, it has about 300 hours on it....

Apparently from previous posts it wouldn't be the 1st time that a "new" OB is immediately defective. You might want to have service come back out & at least check it out. Of course it depends on the service tech's opinion whether it's an OB defect or not. I'd be curious to see what they say.

I've checked w/ a few service techs in the area in the past about mine & just over the phone they considered this issue to be an OB defect. Of course take that for what it's worth.
post #20607 of 23945
I seem to have lost hid def capability

I have cox cable and have the HDMI/DVI converter cable

I switched it over to composite cables and that didn't work

my other hi def tv is fine

is it the converter box or is it something common in the first sxrd's?

I still have digital cable via cox but just only the 480I resolution on that tv
post #20608 of 23945
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Originally Posted by boneyard123 View Post

...last week the geek squad tech can't get my set to work again after doing a OB replacement, he even tried to put old OB back in and still can't get it to fire up, and than he tried to replace power supply.

The tech screwed up. More than likely he either ripped the delicate ribbon cable which connects to the OB's gamma board, or damaged the cable's connector.

"Tried to replace the power supply"...sounds like a dunce.
post #20609 of 23945
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Originally Posted by colts2005 View Post

is it the converter box

Yes.

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or is it something common in the first sxrd's?

No, not at all. Your converter box is either configured incorrectly or malfunctioning.

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I still have digital cable via cox but just only the 480I resolution on that tv

You can still view OTA HD channels..and input HD signals from other sources (Blu-ray, 360, etc.), correct?
post #20610 of 23945
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Originally Posted by KewlK View Post

The tech screwed up. More than likely he either ripped the delicate ribbon cable which connects to the OB's gamma board, or damaged the cable's connector.

"Tried to replace the power supply"...sounds like a dunce.

He keep saying " I'm missing my -B ?" Oh well I just want it replaced at this point. I just called geek squad they said he ordered 5 more parts for my set. A bunch of micro switches, and that large board where all the inputs plug into on back. She said that would exceed 3 repairs and I would get a buy out/replacement if this doesn't work.

If it does work is there any type of calibration or anything that should be done to give me the picture quality I had before all of this?

Thanks for help
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