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post #21151 of 23978
Hello guys,

I've been reading on and off since I got my set in 2006, and now I've noticed something weird, in various inputs in, my set seems blinking the image would go lighter and back to normal(more like flickering), its like 20-30 times, in less than a minute could be way more, and stayed like that for a while, and it seemed to stop after an hour but I came back again. and its with my directv box, my newly PS3, and my wii. I know that my bulb has around 5400 hs of use.

I don't know if I should call Sony right away, so I decided to try here to check if someone has an idea.

Thanks!
post #21152 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rafaeldb View Post

Hello guys,

I've been reading on and off since I got my set in 2006, and now I've noticed something weird, in various inputs in, my set seems blinking the image would go lighter and back to normal(more like flickering), its like 20-30 times, in less than a minute could be way more, and stayed like that for a while, and it seemed to stop after an hour but I came back again. and its with my directv box, my newly PS3, and my wii. I know that my bulb has around 5400 hs of use.

I don't know if I should call Sony right away, so I decided to try here to check if someone has an idea.

Thanks!

Mine has done that twice...the first time the bulb finally burned out...the second time, I ordered a new one and put the "blinker" on the shelf for a backup.

Enjoy the new lamp.....
post #21153 of 23978
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Originally Posted by ccrider2 View Post

Mine has done that twice...the first time the bulb finally burned out...the second time, I ordered a new one and put the "blinker" on the shelf for a backup.

Enjoy the new lamp.....

I guess that I need to find someone on my are to do that? Did you go trough any retail store or found a technician that could do the job?
post #21154 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rafaeldb View Post

I guess that I need to find someone on my are to do that? Did you go trough any retail store or found a technician that could do the job?

You can replace the bulb yourself, very easy and won't take more than 5 minutes. Instructions are even in the manual
post #21155 of 23978
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Originally Posted by DaBuzzard View Post

You can replace the bulb yourself, very easy and won't take more than 5 minutes. Instructions are even in the manual

For sure...it takes longer to open the box the bulb comes in, than to plug it in.
post #21156 of 23978
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Originally Posted by ccrider2 View Post

For sure...it takes longer to open the box the bulb comes in, than to plug it in.

hehe I feel very stupid, because I only glanced at the manual, everything I did to my set I got from this forum, and it seems so easy.

I know that the main page has a link for the part, is that still correct or you guys were able to find on a local shop?

Also one more question I noticed only a couple times a haze on the images but never too strong, how can I test to find out if I have the green blob problem?
post #21157 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rafaeldb View Post

hehe I feel very stupid, because I only glanced at the manual, everything I did to my set I got from this forum, and it seems so easy.

I know that the main page has a link for the part, is that still correct or you guys were able to find on a local shop?

Also one more question I noticed only a couple times a haze on the images but never too strong, how can I test to find out if I have the green blob problem?

A quick way is to click the "memory stick" button on the remote. The display should have an even color to it.Click the button again and you exit the memory stick screen. I think the button is near the bottom of the remote.
post #21158 of 23978
I just ordered a KDL46-VE5 from Sony for $550 + Tax as their way of compensating me for my greenish KDL-R50XBR1 instead of fixing it. Is anyone familiar with the VE5 and will I be happy with the picture compared to how I think I remember my SXRD looking before it's slow decline to it's current state.

Also, is there anything I can do short of replacing the OB on my SXRD to get back some of it's former brilliance? I've already fooled with white balance and other settings to get it somewhat less green but the stunning 3D clarity and realism just isn't there anymore. In fact, my wifes new Samsung LN46B610 makes it look so dull, my family will hardly watch my once enthralling Sony anymore.

Finally, I read that you can check how many hours are on the projection lamp by accessing a Service mode by pressing "Display + 5 + Vol + Power". I assumed that they need to be pressed at the same time, but I wasn't able to get this to work. Did I misunderstand the instructions or is there some trick I need to do this correctly?

Thanks in advance for any replies and for all the good info I have already pulled from this thread.
post #21159 of 23978
I feel like I am working on a beloved old 60s muscle car that needs a little elbow grease now and then to keep it working at its best. My main fan had been rattling just a hair. Enough to bother me but not 95% of typical TV owners. Thanks to the instructions on here I felt very comfortable ordering the part for $25 directly from Sony and I put it in last night in a matter of 15 minutes. She is all nice and quiet again
post #21160 of 23978
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Originally Posted by skierbob View Post

I just ordered a KDL46-VE5 from Sony for $550 + Tax as their way of compensating me for my greenish KDL-R50XBR1 instead of fixing it. Is anyone familiar with the VE5 and will I be happy with the picture compared to how I think I remember my SXRD looking before it's slow decline to it's current state.

Also, is there anything I can do short of replacing the OB on my SXRD to get back some of it's former brilliance? I've already fooled with white balance and other settings to get it somewhat less green but the stunning 3D clarity and realism just isn't there anymore. In fact, my wifes new Samsung LN46B610 makes it look so dull, my family will hardly watch my once enthralling Sony anymore.

Finally, I read that you can check how many hours are on the projection lamp by accessing a Service mode by pressing "Display + 5 + Vol + Power". I assumed that they need to be pressed at the same time, but I wasn't able to get this to work. Did I misunderstand the instructions or is there some trick I need to do this correctly?

Thanks in advance for any replies and for all the good info I have already pulled from this thread.

The TV must be off, then press one at a time; press the Display key, then the 5 key, then (Vol+) key and the power button to enter service mode. The last one (power) turns the tv on.
post #21161 of 23978
Thanks. I got to the service menu and found that the bulb has 4823 hours on it. I think I'll leave it alone for a while til I see how quickly the OB is deteriorating. No sense in putting a new bulb in if the OB is going to make the set hopeless in short order anyway.

Meanwhile, any advice on how to slow the OB deterioration or minimize it's effect on picture quality would be welcome. I figure the longer I can be satisfied with my aging XBR1, the cheaper and better it's replacement is likely to be. So far, the best picture I've seen was on a Samsung LN46B6000 (LCD with selectively dimmable LED backlights). Besides it being too small however, I'll be darned if I am going to jump to a new technology yet again before it has a well proven reliability record.
post #21162 of 23978
Hello guys I took some pictures of my set and there's some green haze on the top right corner, that you can barely seen on the pictures, but its there, and there's a few blue lines across at the bottom. Would that qualify as a Optical block problem?




post #21163 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rafaeldb View Post

Hello guys I took some pictures of my set and there's some green haze on the top right corner, that you can barely seen on the pictures, but its there, and there's a few blue lines across at the bottom. Would that qualify as a Optical block problem?





If the green tint doesn't bother you in normal viewing I would leave it. The replacement could be much worse than what you have now.
The blue stripe thing is another matter and nothing i've seen in all the defective blocks i've had the pleasure of owning...thank you sony. Video board problem maybe? You could call sony, describe the problem and see if they will look at it as a OB issue. You don't have to get it repaired if you don't want to. If you have an extended warranty I would definitely have someone look at it. Video boards run $400 plus labor.
post #21164 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rlb View Post

You can use the "memory card" screen to view for "lack of color". It's a great gray screen that's available for just pushing one button on the remote. The grays should show no color "tint". However, if there is a color tint consistent across the entire screen, it can be corrected with the white balance adjustments (i.e., to get a proper grayscale). Finally, if the color "tint" is in patches, it can't be corrected with the white balance controls and is an indication that the OB is bad and will only get worse.

Can you please go into some detail about " white balance adjustments " I have a R60XBR1 with aprox 3,700 hours that seems to be showing a slight yellowish/green haze across the entire screen. I just replaced the lamp and it did seem to brighten up the picture somewhat but the yellow/green haze still seems to be present.

I do have a third party warranty with Mackcam and I was thinking it might be time for me to have them look at the set. I would hate to think that this might be the beginning to the end for my set. Any suggestions or recommendations is much appreciated.
post #21165 of 23978
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Originally Posted by John 61 View Post

Can you please go into some detail about " white balance adjustments " I have a R60XBR1 with aprox 3,700 hours that seems to be showing a slight yellowish/green haze across the entire screen. I just replaced the lamp and it did seem to brighten up the picture somewhat but the yellow/green haze still seems to be present.

I do have a third party warranty with Mackcam and I was thinking it might be time for me to have them look at the set. I would hate to think that this might be the beginning to the end for my set. Any suggestions or recommendations is much appreciated.

The problem with this green tint BS is that you adjust it down to a -2 and it's ok for a time. 3 months down the road, you adjust to a -5 and that is stable for a time until you need to go to -8. In time, your at the end of the scale, your warranty is up and your screwed.
If green is there from day one and it can be adjusted to give an acceptable picture, great, leave it be. If you notice a gradual tint shift to green over time don't assume you will be fine by playing with white balance...your OB will fail and you will be SOL.
post #21166 of 23978
Yes that's exactly why I am starting this process now ( I still have 6 - 7 months left on my extended warranty ) can anyone comment on thier experience with Mackcam warranty extension ?? Will th OB be covered
post #21167 of 23978
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Originally Posted by John 61 View Post

Yes that's exactly why I am starting this process now ( I still have 6 - 7 months left on my extended warranty ) can anyone comment on thier experience with Mackcam warranty extension ?? Will th OB be covered

Read your coverage info. As a rule, the only thing that doesn't get covered is abuse or bulbs, unless specified.
Make the call.
post #21168 of 23978
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Originally Posted by fpconvert View Post

If the green tint doesn't bother you in normal viewing I would leave it. The replacement could be much worse than what you have now.
The blue stripe thing is another matter and nothing i've seen in all the defective blocks i've had the pleasure of owning...thank you sony. Video board problem maybe? You could call sony, describe the problem and see if they will look at it as a OB issue. You don't have to get it repaired if you don't want to. If you have an extended warranty I would definitely have someone look at it. Video boards run $400 plus labor.

I had two XBR1s fail due to a blue stripe across the top. It started off small in the top left corner and extended across the screen over a period of several weeks. This was in addition to green blobs.
post #21169 of 23978
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Originally Posted by fpconvert View Post

If the green tint doesn't bother you in normal viewing I would leave it. The replacement could be much worse than what you have now.
The blue stripe thing is another matter and nothing i've seen in all the defective blocks i've had the pleasure of owning...thank you sony. Video board problem maybe? You could call sony, describe the problem and see if they will look at it as a OB issue. You don't have to get it repaired if you don't want to. If you have an extended warranty I would definitely have someone look at it. Video boards run $400 plus labor.

Thanks for all the info, the green haze bothers in some movies and in some I don't even notice, it depends, the blue bars at the bottom could be the WD TV, I'm going to try with my PS3, to see if does the same thing.

I don't have extended warranty anymore, because it was thru Circuit City. But I might call Sony and explain and see what they say.

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Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad View Post

I had two XBR1s fail due to a blue stripe across the top. It started off small in the top left corner and extended across the screen over a period of several weeks. This was in addition to green blobs.

That is interesting, did they completely fail? Or you changed them before? Could you tell me some more, did Sony know about it?
post #21170 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rafaeldb View Post

I don't have extended warranty anymore, because it was thru Circuit City. But I might call Sony and explain and see what they say.

As long as your Circuit City warranty didn't expire, it's still valid. Just because you bought your warranty at Circuit City and it's says "Circuit City" on the paperwork, it's almost certainly underwritten by a third party who more-than-likely hasn't gone out of business. It's certainly something worth looking into, particularly if Sony gives you the ol' stiff arm.
post #21171 of 23978
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

As long as your Circuit City warranty didn't expire, it's still valid. Just because you bought your warranty at Circuit City and it's says "Circuit City" on the paperwork, it's almost certainly underwritten by a third party who more-than-likely hasn't gone out of business. It's certainly something worth looking into, particularly if Sony gives you the ol' stiff arm.

I have my extended waranty through Circiut City and as mentioned it is really a third party that is still in business. I tried giving them a call once in the last couple of months and the waranty company is still alive
post #21172 of 23978
I checked the Circuit city notice page before they went belly-up, and it read the "Advantage Protection Plan" warranties would still be good.

Attachment is a copy of the original page on their site ....about Jan 2009.

Let us know how they react...still got a year and 2 months left on mine.

Good Luck,

 

Circuit City going out of business.doc 63.5k . file
post #21173 of 23978
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Originally Posted by ccrider2 View Post

I checked the Circuit city notice page before they went belly-up, and it read the "Advantage Protection Plan" warranties would still be good.

Attachment is a copy of the original page on their site ....about Jan 2009.

Let us know how they react...still got a year and 2 months left on mine.

Good Luck,

Well after I looked it over I found out that I never paid for extension so I'm out since last may.

Which means I only have to Sony to beg to. I'll give them a call on Monday and find out.
post #21174 of 23978
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Originally Posted by rafaeldb View Post

Thanks for all the info, the green haze bothers in some movies and in some I don't even notice, it depends, the blue bars at the bottom could be the WD TV, I'm going to try with my PS3, to see if does the same thing.

I don't have extended warranty anymore, because it was thru Circuit City. But I might call Sony and explain and see what they say.



That is interesting, did they completely fail? Or you changed them before? Could you tell me some more, did Sony know about it?

Maybe "fail" is the wrong word. Lets say the OBs developed blue stripes (in addition to green blobs). Here's what happened. 50XBR1 #1 had a bit of a green blob from the get-go but it disappeared after about 15 minutes so I didn't worry too much about it until....a small blue blob appeared in the top left corner and grew over time until it was about 1-2" high and extended about halfway across the screen. My EW enabled me to get the OB replaced but OB #2 had a green blob that got worse over time. So, Sony exchanged the whole TV. XBR1 #3 had a green blob but it went away after about 45 minutes so I lived with it until...the blue stripe appeared at the top again. Rather than try do another fix or replacement, Sony took the TV back and refunded me my original purchase price (back before the CAL stopped their generosity). I now have a 2-1/2 year old 55A2020 SXRD with 8,000 hours and no green blobs or blue stripes.
post #21175 of 23978
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Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad View Post

Maybe "fail" is the wrong word. Lets say the OBs developed blue stripes (in addition to green blobs). Here's what happened. 50XBR1 #1 had a bit of a green blob from the get-go but it disappeared after about 15 minutes so I didn't worry too much about it until....a small blue blob appeared in the top left corner and grew over time until it was about 1-2" high and extended about halfway across the screen. My EW enabled me to get the OB replaced but OB #2 had a green blob that got worse over time. So, Sony exchanged the whole TV. XBR1 #3 had a green blob but it went away after about 45 minutes so I lived with it until...the blue stripe appeared at the top again. Rather than try do another fix or replacement, Sony took the TV back and refunded me my original purchase price (back before the CAL stopped their generosity). I now have a 2-1/2 year old 55A2020 SXRD with 8,000 hours and no green blobs or blue stripes.

That is very helpful, I will find out what they will do when I call Monday, since I don't have extended warranty anymore. I've had mine since sep 06, and back then I never saw anything, it started about a 1 year and a half ago. With the blue stripes just happening a couple months ago, but I'm also wondering if that is not the WD TV because the PS3 didn't show anything like that. Still had the Green Haze, big on on the top right almost to the center of the tv.

Will see!
post #21176 of 23978
Can anyone make a recommendation for a repair shop in CT. that can deal with and repair my R60XBR1 yellowish/green haze OB issue. My third party warranty provider " Mack Camera " has authorized me to get the process started. ??
post #21177 of 23978
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Originally Posted by John 61 View Post

Can anyone make a recommendation for a repair shop in CT. that can deal with and repair my R60XBR1 yellowish/green haze OB issue. My third party warranty provider " Mack Camera " has authorized me to get the process started. ??

'Adrian1281' used Tri-State Module in Indiana and was happy with the repair.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=#post17329378
post #21178 of 23978
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Originally Posted by John 61 View Post

Can you please go into some detail about " white balance adjustments " I have a R60XBR1 with aprox 3,700 hours that seems to be showing a slight yellowish/green haze across the entire screen. I just replaced the lamp and it did seem to brighten up the picture somewhat but the yellow/green haze still seems to be present.

I do have a third party warranty with Mackcam and I was thinking it might be time for me to have them look at the set. I would hate to think that this might be the beginning to the end for my set. Any suggestions or recommendations is much appreciated.

People pay for ISF's to get the best possible grayscale. This requires knowledge and equipment.

However, you should be able to make significant improvements yourself by trusting your eyes and knowing what is actually gray vice tinted by color. Below is something I wrote in this thread over a year ago:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=19995.

If your screen is "consistent" without blobs, etc., you probably don't have an OB issue. All displays (LCDs, plasmas, etc.,) can be improved by grayscale calibration.
post #21179 of 23978
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Originally Posted by John 61 View Post

Can anyone make a recommendation for a repair shop in CT. that can deal with and repair my R60XBR1 yellowish/green haze OB issue. My third party warranty provider " Mack Camera " has authorized me to get the process started. ??

Try contacting Sony eSupport:

"Find a location to get your Sony product repaired, the Sony repair cost, and to initiate the repair procedure."
post #21180 of 23978
I have been on this thread since the very beginning. Let me say that the problem we are discussing here NEVER gets better by itself. I had some of this and had a new optical block put in about 1 1/2 years ago and it has been beautiful ever since. (Of course, I give my set far less than average use.) Some people have reported minor or no meaningful improvement with an OB change, but most people report success. My advice is get the optical block changed if at all possible. Don't wait for a miracle healing. It ain't going to happen.
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