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Originally Posted by George Cifrancis View Post
My bulb in my R60XBR1 finally went out recently on May 21st. I was curious how long bulbs lasted for others? This was the original bulb that was in the set when I got it on October 11, 2005, so the original lamp lasted around 5 years 7 months and 10 days. I already had a replacement lamp ready to go as I ordered one when a friend of mines bulb died on his R60XBR1 in April 2010 (and he got his set after I did). I didn't buy a genuine Sony replacement bulb so I will be curious how long it lasts.

Does anyone have a source for an original Sony replacement lamp (which are made by Phillips I believe)?
The back of my TV was placed close to the wall, maybe 2-3 inches. I bought the TV in Nov 2005, replaced the bulb twice already, so every 2 1/2 years mine goes out. We have a local store that sells the Sony lamps. Fry's Electronics also sells the Phillips version.
post #23462 of 23978
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Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad View Post

Depends on the pattern/sequence. For example: 4 means fan error.

There is no sequence. It flashes continuously. And there isn't any picture at all.
post #23463 of 23978
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Originally Posted by IRH84F View Post

There is no sequence. It flashes continuously. And there isn't any picture at all.

Last on the list is bulb burning out which the red
led would flash continuously
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...7&d=1181742285
post #23464 of 23978
Ok , thanks guys.
Any recommendations for a reputable dealer to buy my lamp from?
post #23465 of 23978
Just had something weird happen with my 60" XBR1. Had the Verizon FIOS box connected into the HDMI Video 6. Picture went black, but sound was still on, light was still green on the front of the set, so I know the bulb was still ok. I switched the cable to Video 7, and the picture was fine. Any idea what this is? What do I need to do to fix this from happening again? Thanks for the help. John
post #23466 of 23978
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Originally Posted by IRH84F View Post

Ok , thanks guys.
Any recommendations for a reputable dealer to buy my lamp from?

Try River Valley Electronics on eBay. I got a Philips lamp (in housing) from them. They have a good reputation.
post #23467 of 23978
Same here. Phillips brand. Good price. Fast shipping....located in my State though. YMMV
post #23468 of 23978
Anyone one got the latest replacement offers? I'm thinking of calling sony soon yellow stain visible after I put in a new lamp.
post #23469 of 23978
Not happen with my offer from Sony... I have yellowing tint/stain issue and email Sony then called with my event number. They offered the EX720 at $1025 with no option to get the NX720 at this time as a replacement for my R60xbr1 purchase in Feb 2006. I am happy that the program exists but how do others just two weeks ago get the deal for $750??? I am mainly interested in the NX720, does anyone have strategy for obtaining one through the program? Any help is much appreactaed...
post #23470 of 23978
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Try River Valley Electronics on eBay. I got a Philips lamp (in housing) from them. They have a good reputation.

This is correct,,,,,, ALWAYS make sure you put a Philips lamp in these sets. The original was Philips.
post #23471 of 23978
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Originally Posted by robertsc View Post

Not happen with my offer from Sony... I have yellowing tint/stain issue and email Sony then called with my event number. They offered the EX720 at $1025 with no option to get the NX720 at this time as a replacement for my R60xbr1 purchase in Feb 2006. I am happy that the program exists but how do others just two weeks ago get the deal for $750??? I am mainly interested in the NX720, does anyone have strategy for obtaining one through the program? Any help is much appreactaed...

Go to this website and post your problem. Quite often someone from Sony will get in touch with you but if they don't, there's a whole bunch of folks eager to help you along the way. I was able to get an outstanding offer through this site. Many say that dealing with sarah@sonylistens has gotten them satisfactory results
post #23472 of 23978
It's been about 1.5 years since I had my optical block replaced on my 60XBR1 and about a year since my last lamp replacement. All was going ok until last night when the picture went out. The red LED starting blinking 4 times, pause, 4 times, etc. I had no idea what the hell that meant but after doing a little research I discovered it means there is a fan issue. I won't bore with details but after hours of research and reading, I tore my TV apart, figured out which fan (it was the one you can barely see when you have the back off) was the problem and got it working again (knock on wood). I also enabled the High Altitude setting as many have suggested. Luckily for me it wasn't the optical block fan, I think that is officially beyond my limited handy man capacity. Which brings me to this point...

...I'm tired of having to spend so much freakin time just keeping this $5000 TV going. I've done the optical block, replaced the lamp twice and now the fan issue appears. If the optical block fan goes out, then what, I'm just screwed or I sink more time and money into this TV?! Plus I'm reading that others have replaced the optical block twice, even three times! At what point is enough enough?!

Anyway, I was offered a deal on a new TV back when I had the optical block issue but I chose to just have it fixed. Well now I'm wondering if that was the right decision and more importantly, is there any going back? Has anyone else went with the fix but was still able to get a deal from Sony later on?

TL;DR: My TV has been and continues to be high maintenance and I want Sony to cut me a deal on a new one but I had optical block fixed 1.5 years, does that mean I no longer qualify?
post #23473 of 23978
^^^ as long as you have the manufacture sticker label you can still opt for the OB failure replacement offer so long your set is exhibiting the symptoms ie. yellow discoloration and blue dots.
post #23474 of 23978
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Originally Posted by sinurgy View Post

It's been about 1.5 years since I had my optical block replaced on my 60XBR1 and about a year since my last lamp replacement. All was going ok until last night when the picture went out. The red LED starting blinking 4 times, pause, 4 times, etc. I had no idea what the hell that meant but after doing a little research I discovered it means there is a fan issue. I won't bore with details but after hours of research and reading, I tore my TV apart, figured out which fan (it was the one you can barely see when you have the back off) was the problem and got it working again (knock on wood). I also enabled the High Altitude setting as many have suggested. Luckily for me it wasn't the optical block fan, I think that is officially beyond my limited handy man capacity. Which brings me to this point...

...I'm tired of having to spend so much freakin time just keeping this $5000 TV going. I've done the optical block, replaced the lamp twice and now the fan issue appears. If the optical block fan goes out, then what, I'm just screwed or I sink more time and money into this TV?! Plus I'm reading that others have replaced the optical block twice, even three times! At what point is enough enough?!

Anyway, I was offered a deal on a new TV back when I had the optical block issue but I chose to just have it fixed. Well now I'm wondering if that was the right decision and more importantly, is there any going back? Has anyone else went with the fix but was still able to get a deal from Sony later on?

TL;DR: My TV has been and continues to be high maintenance and I want Sony to cut me a deal on a new one but I had optical block fixed 1.5 years, does that mean I no longer qualify?

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Originally Posted by Injected Sin View Post

^^^ as long as you have the manufacture sticker label you can still opt for the OB failure replacement offer so long your set is exhibiting the symptoms ie. yellow discoloration and blue dots.

So basically I would need to wait until the TV starts exhibiting the optical block symptoms again? The fan issues are considered normal wear and tear? I kid of wish I could just be done with it but I guess if I have to wait no big deal. lol...probably won't take long anyway knowing this TV. Man talk about a love hate relationship!
post #23475 of 23978
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Originally Posted by sinurgy View Post

So basically I would need to wait until the TV starts exhibiting the optical block symptoms again? The fan issues are considered normal wear and tear? I kid of wish I could just be done with it but I guess if I have to wait no big deal. lol...probably won't take long anyway knowing this TV. Man talk about a love hate relationship!

When my R60XBR1 started displaying symptoms and I then realized I could get a replacement at a very reasonable price, I was at first apprehensive because this TV was definitely a great looking set when everything was working properly. My apprehension quickly faded when the new set arrived and I started to realize that there were no more lamps to change, no more fans to repair etc etc. Nope, I could now just watch the danged thing and enjoy the awesome picture.
post #23476 of 23978
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

When my R60XBR1 started displaying symptoms and I then realized I could get a replacement at a very reasonable price, I was at first apprehensive because this TV was definitely a great looking set when everything was working properly. My apprehension quickly faded when the new set arrived and I started to realize that there were no more lamps to change, no more fans to repair etc etc. Nope, I could now just watch the danged thing and enjoy the awesome picture.

I Started having the Green tint optical block problem - after a month it got bad enough I tried to adjust it and couldn't ... and with all the static on the web about it I decided to give it a go and call Sony on my R60XBR1 which I bought in Oct. of 2005 .

I called Sony at (888) 649-7669 and talked to a REP.

They asked questions to confirm it is the optical block. Then proceed to tell me that it was out of warranty and couldn't help with the fix. After a slight amount of persuasion I was given the option of getting two different models for a deal .

KDL55E500 for $200 plus tax
or
KDL60EX720 for $1075 plus tax

They give you a week to make your decision.

You give them your CC # and then- You also have to snail mail them (with tracker) the sticker from the back of the TV and a picture of the problem. Then they will finish putting in the order and tell you that it could be up to 3 weeks after they receive your snail mail that you get the replacement TV
post #23477 of 23978
While I don't have the serious case of the green blob(just a very mild green at times on the top left) with the new OB replaced under Best Buy's EW 3 years after I bought the TV in 2006, I do know that the blacks are bluish greys at best with this TV. I have to reduce brightness big time to get decent blacks and minimize the "milky haze" the picture seems to have a tiny bit of.

Next to my cheap Panasonic 50 inch plasma (the X series which is really their cheapest), my SONY SXRD looks inferior in terms of black levels and picture quality. It takes 5 -10 minutes to get used to the picture when I stop comparing it.

Sports channels usually look better. Movie channels have more of that milky haze effect. I have tried all kinds of adjustments, but to no avail. I remember the picture just being more vibrant when I first owned this set.

Now I am wondering what my original pic quality looked like.
post #23478 of 23978
My XBR1 still looks way better than my A10 and E2000 RP tvs.
post #23479 of 23978
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Originally Posted by sinurgy View Post

It's been about 1.5 years since I had my optical block replaced on my 60XBR1 and about a year since my last lamp replacement. All was going ok until last night when the picture went out. The red LED starting blinking 4 times, pause, 4 times, etc. I had no idea what the hell that meant but after doing a little research I discovered it means there is a fan issue. I won't bore with details but after hours of research and reading, I tore my TV apart, figured out which fan (it was the one you can barely see when you have the back off) was the problem and got it working again (knock on wood). I also enabled the High Altitude setting as many have suggested. Luckily for me it wasn't the optical block fan, I think that is officially beyond my limited handy man capacity. Which brings me to this point...

...I'm tired of having to spend so much freakin time just keeping this $5000 TV going. I've done the optical block, replaced the lamp twice and now the fan issue appears. If the optical block fan goes out, then what, I'm just screwed or I sink more time and money into this TV?! Plus I'm reading that others have replaced the optical block twice, even three times! At what point is enough enough?!

Anyway, I was offered a deal on a new TV back when I had the optical block issue but I chose to just have it fixed. Well now I'm wondering if that was the right decision and more importantly, is there any going back? Has anyone else went with the fix but was still able to get a deal from Sony later on?

TL;DR: My TV has been and continues to be high maintenance and I want Sony to cut me a deal on a new one but I had optical block fixed 1.5 years, does that mean I no longer qualify?

Well just ****ing great, the fan "fix" lasted all of 1 week. I'm back to the red LED blinking 4 times. I can confirm the 3 visible fans are all working so I have to conclude it's either the board messing up or more likely the OB fan. I've seen instructions on how to get to that thing but ****, taking all the guts out of my TV makes me quite nervous. Anyone else recently attempted this, if so got some advice?!

I wonder if Sony would extend me an offer on a new TV or have they not acknowledged the fan issue yet?
post #23480 of 23978
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Originally Posted by sinurgy View Post

Well just ****ing great, the fan "fix" lasted all of 1 week. I'm back to the red LED blinking 4 times. I can confirm the 3 visible fans are all working so I have to conclude it's either the board messing up or more likely the OB fan. I've seen instructions on how to get to that thing but ****, taking all the guts out of my TV makes me quite nervous. Anyone else recently attempted this, if so got some advice?!

I wonder if Sony would extend me an offer on a new TV or have they not acknowledged the fan issue yet?

I think they'll probably come down on the side of normal wear and tear though going by my favorite motto of "nothing ventured, nothing gained", it surely wouldn't hurt to give them a call.

Since moving on away from this TV, I feel a sense of freedom and as I posted earlier, that comes from the fact that I now have a TV that is truly maintenance free. No lamps or fans to mess with anymore.

Good luck in your pursuits. I sense a degree of frustration in that last post of yours.
post #23481 of 23978
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Originally Posted by sinurgy View Post
Well just ****ing great, the fan "fix" lasted all of 1 week. I'm back to the red LED blinking 4 times. I can confirm the 3 visible fans are all working so I have to conclude it's either the board messing up or more likely the OB fan. I've seen instructions on how to get to that thing but ****, taking all the guts out of my TV makes me quite nervous. Anyone else recently attempted this, if so got some advice?!

I wonder if Sony would extend me an offer on a new TV or have they not acknowledged the fan issue yet?
I had this same issue, and here's how I remedied it; I brought my air compressor (6gal) into the house, cranked the psi way up, and blasted every nook and cranny I could stick the air-tip into. (Wife did not like the dust cloud I produced, but...) After this fan issue has not returned (over a month so far).
post #23482 of 23978
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Originally Posted by bigbrain28 View Post

I had this same issue, and here's how I remedied it; I brought my air compressor (6gal) into the house, cranked the psi way up, and blasted every nook and cranny I could stick the air-tip into. (Wife did not like the dust cloud I produced, but...) After this fan issue has not returned (over a month so far).

I thought about that method and didn't attempt it out of fear that dust would be forced up inside the screen. I take it that this didn't happen to your TV when you blew the crap out?
post #23483 of 23978
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

I think they'll probably come down on the side of normal wear and tear though going by my favorite motto of "nothing ventured, nothing gained", it surely wouldn't hurt to give them a call.

Since moving on away from this TV, I feel a sense of freedom and as I posted earlier, that comes from the fact that I now have a TV that is truly maintenance free. No lamps or fans to mess with anymore.

Good luck in your pursuits. I sense a degree of frustration in that last post of yours.

Yeah I am a little frustrated at this point. The thought of taking all that crap apart just to get to a fan is not very appealing but even worse is I don't technically know for sure if it's actually the fan, I'm just assuming. That would be extremely frustrating to go through all that and have it not work!!

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Originally Posted by bigbrain28 View Post

I had this same issue, and here's how I remedied it; I brought my air compressor (6gal) into the house, cranked the psi way up, and blasted every nook and cranny I could stick the air-tip into. (Wife did not like the dust cloud I produced, but...) After this fan issue has not returned (over a month so far).

Unfortunately I don't have an air compressor, about the strongest thing I have is a shop vac and I don't think that's going to work so well.
post #23484 of 23978
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Originally Posted by sinurgy View Post

Yeah I am a little frustrated at this point. The thought of taking all that crap apart just to get to a fan is not very appealing but even worse is I don't technically know for sure if it's actually the fan, I'm just assuming. That would be extremely frustrating to go through all that and have it not work!!

Well if you do decide to go for it, this well laid out pictorial instruction may be of some help. Looking at the step by step instructions it looks fairly simple if you're capable of turning a screwdriver.

Check it out here
post #23485 of 23978
A $5 can (or 2) of compressed air from a PC store/Staples will do the same job. I didn't get any dust in/on the interior of the screen.
post #23486 of 23978
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

Well if you do decide to go for it, this well laid out pictorial instruction may be of some help. Looking at the step by step instructions it looks fairly simple if you're capable of turning a screwdriver.

Check it out here

Thanks for that link, it's a great how-to! One thing confuses me though, I only see 3 fans. There's the two obvious ones you can see on the backside of the TV (Pic 2) before even taking anything apart and then the one that appears to mount vertically which I believe that's the OB fan (Pic 3). What I don't see is the one that is the same type fan as the OB one only it's mounted horizontally near the lamp (Pic 1).

All 3 of these fans spin when I turn on the TV, this is why I believe it must be the 4th fan, the one I call the OB fan, that is the problem.

Pic 1 (I originally thought this was the culprit but a week later it's still spinning when I power up but TV doesn't last more than a few minutes before picture goes out and 4 red blinks starts):
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Pic 2 (the circle is where the fan from Pic 1 is basically located):
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Pic 3:
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post #23487 of 23978
Has anyone had any luck buying the Scirocco fans (Pic 1 and Pic 3 above) locally?
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Hello all, first time posting. I am currently in the process of getting a replacement for my KDSR50 XBR1, Sony received my pictures since January. The options that i was getting was crap to say the least back then so i waited until i had received an offer acceptable to me which was the XBR55HX929 for $1165.00 + applicable taxes. I sent in the sticker over a month now and they have had my credit card info since then. Should i not have received my set by now? I never get any email or call from them to keep me informed of the status. I have to keep calling. Now over 3 weeks ago, i called them and they said they had a load date and i would be charged then, when that date came and i called for status all of a sudden they tell me my card was declined with no reason why and that i should call my financial institution and verify if there is any block. I did that and called back but when i did they tell me that they have to reorder again and get a new load date. This has now happened 4 different times and always the same generic bull**it reason about card declined. Yet the bank says they have never seen a transaction coming in from sony for the amount they said, rather they only see a $1 transaction that sony says is to see if the card is good. What can i do to resolve this situation and should they not compensate or do something for having me wait this length of time as well as going thru this crap?
post #23489 of 23978
Use a different card!
post #23490 of 23978
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Originally Posted by RasFabilous View Post

Hello all, first time posting. I am currently in the process of getting a replacement for my KDSR50 XBR1, Sony received my pictures since January. The options that i was getting was crap to say the least back then so i waited until i had received an offer acceptable to me which was the XBR55HX929 for $1165.00 + applicable taxes. I sent in the sticker over a month now and they have had my credit card info since then. Should i not have received my set by now? I never get any email or call from them to keep me informed of the status. I have to keep calling. Now over 3 weeks ago, i called them and they said they had a load date and i would be charged then, when that date came and i called for status all of a sudden they tell me my card was declined with no reason why and that i should call my financial institution and verify if there is any block. I did that and called back but when i did they tell me that they have to reorder again and get a new load date. This has now happened 4 different times and always the same generic bull**it reason about card declined. Yet the bank says they have never seen a transaction coming in from sony for the amount they said, rather they only see a $1 transaction that sony says is to see if the card is good. What can i do to resolve this situation and should they not compensate or do something for having me wait this length of time as well as going thru this crap?

wow, that's a great price for that, if you ever do get it. I've been waiting on the 65" to come out & see the reviews for it.

could be a blessing in disguise. following that thread, I've seen they've had a crease issue on sets built before a certain date. best to get one after. see thread.
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