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post #31 of 154
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Originally Posted by SmokeBringer View Post

What about the "?" in the Buffalo unnits Chapter Navigation field. Can someone verify if this feature works or it doesn't?

I can't, as I'm the one who put the '?' there in the first place.

But from what I can tell, the Buffalo Linktheater can utilize the wizd server, so by using a third-party server, you can get chapter navigation. That is, no DVD menus, but you can use the remote to jump forwards and backwards a chapter at a time.

So perhaps with the Buffalo-supplied server you can't get chapter navigation, but you can with a third-party server.
post #32 of 154
on the mediagate..can you plug in an external harddrive via usb 2.0 or firewire 400 with ripped movies already loaded on it (vob, .ts, ifo) and play them with proper aspect ratio on a 4:3 tv wiht menus/navigation..ie. they look just like a database of dvds and play them with all their specials stuffs.

if not..can the tvisto or tvix do that? (i dont think the tvix can)


thanks!

sharon
post #33 of 154
The spreadsheet is pretty helpful, but which of these devices decodes 24/192k audio (DVD-Audio). As far as I can tell, only Buffalo LinkTheater does.
post #34 of 154
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Originally Posted by spalkowetz View Post

on the mediagate..can you plug in an external harddrive via usb 2.0 or firewire 400 with ripped movies already loaded on it (vob, .ts, ifo) and play them with proper aspect ratio on a 4:3 tv wiht menus/navigation..ie. they look just like a database of dvds and play them with all their specials stuffs.

In the USB row in the spreadsheet, "Slave" means "Device" in USB parlance, and "Master" means the same thing as "Host".

The MG-35 is listed as "Slave" in the USB row. That means it appears as a storage device to a master, but it cannot act as a master and see other devices as storage devices. So it won't see any drives you plug into the USB connector.
post #35 of 154
I thought the Momitsu wouldn't play WMV files or TS files?
post #36 of 154
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Originally Posted by cburbs View Post

I thought the Momitsu wouldn't play WMV files or TS files?

Ah, I made the mistake of thinking the Momitsu V880N used the Sigma Designs EM8620L and just gave it the same capabilities as every other player based on that media processor.

I checked and it's based on the EM8550, so you're right, it can't do WMV or any kind of HD. My spreadsheet doesn't actually say anything about transport streams, the MPEG formats were program streams.

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll post a completed spreadsheet with corrections shortly.
post #37 of 154
Not to get way off topic hear but I wonder if Momitsu will come out with another player that will have the most current chipset so you can play WMV/TS etc files.

I am thinking of getting a Networked player I just don't know which one and can't buy one of each to test them.

Guess I need to do some more reading.
post #38 of 154
post #39 of 154
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Originally Posted by fredzy View Post

Another one to addd: http://www.mvixusa.com/shop/mvixmult...rwfm-p-38.html

It ain't got a network cable or wireless.



Shaz
post #40 of 154
Thanks for the spreadsheet. I am waiting to take the plunge and buy one. From what I have seen the Tvix HD M-5000U looks like the best one when it is finally released.
post #41 of 154
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Originally Posted by hooked4life View Post

Thanks for the spreadsheet. I am waiting to take the plunge and buy one. From what I have seen the Tvix HD M-5000U looks like the best one when it is finally released.

MediaGate MG-350 should have similar capabilities when released also:

http://www.mediagate.co.kr/english/prod_mg350.htm
post #42 of 154
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Originally Posted by jhue View Post

MediaGate MG-350 should have similar capabilities when released also:

http://www.mediagate.co.kr/english/prod_mg350.htm

jhue,

Thanks for the spreadsheet and the link. I've been stalking a media server recently so this is great info.
post #43 of 154
The Zensonic Z500 was supposed to come out in November.... Anyone know if this is still going to happen? or where it is available?
post #44 of 154
Jhue,

I want to acknowledge your effort in compiling the comparative spreadsheet. I am looking for a NAS solution (leaning towards ReadyNAS X6) that I can store all of my video (DVDs, home movies, VHS), audio (CDs, DVD-Audio, tapes) and images on. Then I will add a couple of media players to handle what is stored on the NAS. I will add some information for your spreadsheet as I go through that process.

My goal is to avoid the need to have a PC as a server or a client in being able to play my various forms of media. This is for many reasons but the primary being the heat and asthetics of a PC.

Regards,
Robert
post #45 of 154
I agree with the Kiwi above, and maybe someone can answer these questions I have about the groupthink on media devices...

1) Why doesn't there seem to be more outcry against devices that require media servers?
- I have a NAS and want a device that can act as a network appliance (like the Roku Photobridge) and just connect straight to a network share to grab content. Why do so many devices need a server...and why aren't more people complaining about it? I only want my NAS server to have to be on all the time...I don't want my NAS and another box to have to be on...

2) Why do so many peolpe seem to want to be able to navigate a ripped DVD using the IFO files?
- I like being able to avoid all the other crap on a DVD and just watch via VOBs... What am I not seeing? Wouldn't you want to go straight to the content instead of a menu?

I'm baffled...

Choots
post #46 of 154
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Originally Posted by Kiwi_in_KC View Post

My goal is to avoid the need to have a PC as a server or a client in being able to play my various forms of media. This is for many reasons but the primary being the heat and asthetics of a PC.

I too have been searching for a cheap, quiet, low-power, cool-running media server for serving up content to various standalone clients. I've decided that the best configuration for me is MAID, massive array of inactive disks.

Originally I was hoping to do this with a Kuro-Box, which is sort of an open-source Buffalo LinkStation. The one I have is equipped with a 266MHz PowerPC, 128MB of RAM, and Gigabit Ethernet. It runs an embedded Linux (Montavista) and I installed a 400GB IDE drive inside the enclosure. It's slightly larger than a paperback book and consumes around 12 watts of electricity at idle. Storage expansion is through a couple of USB 2.0 ports.

The problem I ran into was when trying to expand my storage. The USB-SATA bridges I was using don't support passing of power management commands (I don't believe any do). Even worse, the USB-SATA bridge was preventing the SATA drives from spinning down on their own. So in order to achieve my goal of a low-power system, I am going to have to go with an x86-based Linux system, using an 8-port SATA controller for expansion. I've already confirmed that Suse 9.3 supports power management of SATA drives; I can spin them down and set the stand-by time, and it all works.

My plan now is to go with an ultra low-power VIA mini-ITX board with VIA C3 processor, and run Suse 9.3 Linux. I really wanted to avoid building a system, but I don't see any other solution to the hard drive power management problem. I already considered, and then rejected an underclocked mobile Athlon-based micro-ATX solution. Right now I'm leaning towards an Antec Aria case. I'm hoping this will hold me over until my storage requirements exceed 6TB.
post #47 of 154
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2) Why do so many peolpe seem to want to be able to navigate a ripped DVD using the IFO files?

Well for alot of reasons. First..if you want to keep all the extra stuff on your jutebox to watch, then you def want the ability to use the menus.

and then you prob ask whys that. Alot of ppl like the behind the scenes, deleted scenes etc stuff. I personally do bec im in film school and its like getting free classes. Some ppl just naturally get into that stuff.

If you dont know what vob's are the main titles..it gets to be a real mess trying to go thru each and every freakin vob to find the movie. bleh.

Secondly..alot of the navigation just isnt menus, its chapters as well. The BLT wont read the chapter points unless you do all this server crap on a computer box, and thats w/ a 3rd party server progie that you have to go into and list EVERY single movie. Not acceptable if im not serving up the movie that way. And geez if you dont have chapter points, you just have a nice digital VHS movie IMO. Thats part of the reason why i buy a dvd...who wants to FF and RR thru a movie...

Third...seamless. For ex..on the BLT..if i rip just the movie i get maybe 4 or 5 vobs.You get a bit of pause btwn vobs. Its not seamless. So what..you rip a giant 4g vob.? Well guess waht..stop the movie and you gotta start ALL the way at the beg again. Bleh.

Then there is the ease of use wiht..what did you guys call it ..the WAF..wife acceptace factor? point and click society that we are....
post #48 of 154
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Originally Posted by jhue View Post

MediaGate MG-350 should have similar capabilities when released also:

Mediagate link was here, but had to remove to post

According to the spec sheet, this will have both USB host and slave functionality, which is interesting.

What I am wondering, is will this unit be able to pull contect directly off an Infrant NAS system?

jhue, how soon to you plan to be over 6TB?!?! That is quite the system you are building. What type of content do you have? If I loaded every CD and DVD I own, I probably wouldn't fill a 500GB drive!

Don
post #49 of 154
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Originally Posted by sdsdv10 View Post

jhue, how soon to you plan to be over 6TB?!?! That is quite the system you are building. What type of content do you have? If I loaded every CD and DVD I own, I probably wouldn't fill a 500GB drive!

Not for a while I hope. I'd say my data is growing about 100GB/month currently. It's mostly HD, split between OTA and movies, at about 5GB per hour. I'm also archiving a lot of Sci-Fi and Formula One auto races in standard def.
post #50 of 154
I agree with you Kiwi_in_KC. I currently have an Infrant XNas. It uses Wizd as the UPnP server and will work with both the linktheater and linkplayer and a bunch of other devices. The Infrant web site has a compatability list. If you don't want the DVD player, I would consider the Dlink-520 which is just coming out. It claims UPnP compatability. I have a Pinacle ShowCenter 200. It works well with the PC software, but the UPnP is very rudimentary. Pinnacle has stated on it's site that it will upgrade the UPnP software "in the future". If it does it will be one of the better servers out there

Alan
post #51 of 154
Also an good device for the list: The Virtuoso MC-500?
More info on the neuston website.
post #52 of 154
can i ask a stupid question? What does it mean when you say something has "UPnP compatibility" ?

Thanks
Sharon
post #53 of 154
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Originally Posted by spalkowetz View Post

can i ask a stupid question? What does it mean when you say something has "UPnP compatibility" ?

Thanks
Sharon


I believe it stands for;
U - Universal
P - Plug
n - and
P - Play

This is a software/server standard communication protocol that will let different types of computer/electrical components to talk to each other. What these means in terms of "UPnP compatibility", is that if you have some type of UPnP NAS storage system (like the Infrant or others) on your wired/wireless network, that a UPnP compatible streaming device (like the Linktheater) connected to your TV wouldn't need to have a PC connected and running to watch the video or listen to music thru your home theater system. The UPnP protocol will allow the streaming device and NAS to communicate directly. This is a very alluring idea for locations with several TV/Home Theater setups. You would only need a single large disk storage location and then numerous (and hopefully small and inexpensive) set-top boxs to get that content to all your TV's. Can someone comment if I have stated it correctly. I currently don't have any equipement, but I'm looking to set a system up like this to feed two TVs.


Don
post #54 of 154
Nice spreadsheet.

I have been reading everything I can find about these things.
One or two questions though, I think the answer is no but I'm not sure.

Mediagate MG-35:
I understand that the MG-35 can access shared files on various computers connected to the same LAN.
1) Can the same computers access the files stored on the MG-35's hard drive?
2) Can you transfer files to the MG-35 via the LAN connection, or can it only be done via the USB connection?

I want to be able to download Xvid and DivX files (Lost, BSG, etc.) to my PowerBook or PC, than save them via my LAN to a device that is already connected to my AV center to play them.

Thanx,
Dave

edit:
Looks like I found the answer, no, in this post:
showthread.php?t=600595

Does anyone know if there is a device that can do what i want?
post #55 of 154
stay away from the buffalo link theatre...its no good
post #56 of 154
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Originally Posted by leovip View Post

stay away from the buffalo link theatre...its no good

leovip,

Could you expand on this statement, as someone new to this area I am not sure what you mean. Did it not work for you. Problems with codecs or wireless playback? Can you elobrate on the issues that you had with the Link Theater?

Thanks,
Don
post #57 of 154
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Originally Posted by sdsdv10 View Post

leovip,

Could you expand on this statement, as someone new to this area I am not sure what you mean. Did it not work for you. Problems with codecs or wireless playback? Can you elobrate on the issues that you had with the Link Theater?

Thanks,
Don

I think it is already widely known that Buffalo products are crap.
post #58 of 154
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Originally Posted by biffsbiz View Post

I think it is already widely known that Buffalo products are crap.

I don't think so, my LT works fine
Why cant't i donwload the sheet?
post #59 of 154
Another networked player to add is the Prismiq player

Darn anti-spam code. I can't post their site address but just go to their name on the net.
post #60 of 154
Can anyone tell me if any of the network players support the Media Center video format DVR-MS? I want to have my MCE machine upstairs but be able to access all my pictures/music/video including MCE TV recordings without having to convert them.

Thanks.
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