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post #1201 of 1855
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Originally Posted by orthoboy View Post

I currently have a JVC HD 250 projector being used in my newly built theater. Minimal ambient light with walls and ceilings colored in various shades of brown. I am purchasing a 110" screen but debating between the Firehawk G3 or the Studiotek 130. I will be using for 50% movies 50% sports. As much as I would prefer the Firehawk because I can watch with some ambient light, I am not sure if this is my best choice due to my seating is an L-shaped sectional and I have read that its angular viewing is less then to be desired, thus the thinking of the Studiotek 130. Any advice?

I would recommend you go with Firehawk G3. Your application is a demanding one that will require a screen that can handle some ambient light, especially for sports watching. The Studiotek 130 would be great but unfortunately as you know, it doesn't hold up to ambient light well. Unless you are totally off axis, you should be fine. In my set up, i am really off axis of a Firehawk G3 and have absolutely no problem. It gets a little dimmer but it's nice and uniform.

Benito

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post #1202 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Slump Buster View Post


1) Is there a DIY frame that is more appropriate for this material? Most frames discuss some other material.


If you have any other general advice I'd love to hear it. I started reading through this thread but after it took me the better part of an hour to get through year 1 I thought I'd just toss something out there.

I finally saw some pics of what I am about to purchase and much of my previous post is now irrelevant. I did not realize that these screens are bungeed around a frame. But the rest of the post is still valid. Are there any good DIY's for these kinds of screens? It looks like I would need to build a tension bar around the back of the frame so that the bungee cords could be wrapped around. I see that the black border is already part of the screen. Any idea as to the height and width of the frame?
post #1203 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Slump Buster View Post
I finally saw some pics of what I am about to purchase and much of my previous post is now irrelevant. I did not realize that these screens are bungeed around a frame. But the rest of the post is still valid. Are there any good DIY's for these kinds of screens? It looks like I would need to build a tension bar around the back of the frame so that the bungee cords could be wrapped around. I see that the black border is already part of the screen. Any idea as to the height and width of the frame?
I always thought that stewart never used a bunggee system but button snaps...
post #1204 of 1855
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Originally Posted by fraisa View Post
I always thought that stewart never used a bunggee system but button snaps...
Argh, you're right. I just zoomed in closer and what I thought were holes were actually buttons. Ugh... I'm beginning to think that the gain that I would be getting from buying this high-quality screen would be lost in the hassle of trying to make a frame for it.
post #1205 of 1855
Snaps on flat, shock cord/grommet on curved.
post #1206 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Slump Buster View Post
Argh, you're right. I just zoomed in closer and what I thought were holes were actually buttons. Ugh... I'm beginning to think that the gain that I would be getting from buying this high-quality screen would be lost in the hassle of trying to make a frame for it.
Just a stupid question why do you want to make a diy frame?
post #1207 of 1855
You can get Stewart with a lace and grommet system if you like. Usually only done on large or curved screens.

Slump Buster,

The person is only selling the screen material and not the frame? That's unusual did he replace the screen material on his frame? You could probably find snaps to place on a DIY frame if you go that route but make sure they a placed correctly as you want it tensioned with no wrinkles or sags.

It might be easier to just order a new frame. If you can get the serial# for the old frame they will make another identical one. It won't be cheap but still a lot less expensive than a new Stewart screen if you got the material at a good price. A 110" Deluxe screen with Velux and Studiotek 130 material is $2682 MSRP for reference. You are not too far from AVS, call them and discuss the frame options and their price for the frame only.
post #1208 of 1855
That is correct, the Lace and Grommet system is available on their AT series frames, curved or not. They will custom do a lace and grommet it needed. I've had a few situations where they a customer wanted a qty. of 4 L & G screens at 92" diagonal. The only problem with that is that the L&G screen will require a bigger than standard frame.

If you are interested in a frame price, feel free to contact any of the AVS Sales crew....anyone of us can help you out. We can also discuss the way the screens are made, i've made a few of these my self so that may help in figuring out how to attach to your own frame.

Benito
post #1209 of 1855
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Originally Posted by BobL View Post

You can get Stewart with a lace and grommet system if you like. Usually only done on large or curved screens.

Slump Buster,

The person is only selling the screen material and not the frame? That's unusual did he replace the screen material on his frame? You could probably find snaps to place on a DIY frame if you go that route but make sure they a placed correctly as you want it tensioned with no wrinkles or sags.

It might be easier to just order a new frame. If you can get the serial# for the old frame they will make another identical one. It won't be cheap but still a lot less expensive than a new Stewart screen if you got the material at a good price. A 110" Deluxe screen with Velux and Studiotek 130 material is $2682 MSRP for reference. You are not too far from AVS, call them and discuss the frame options and their price for the frame only.

The seller said that he bought it from someone thinking that it would fit his frame but it did not so he bought a different screen. I wasn't in the high-end screen market but the price is right so I thought I'd give it a look. Yeah, unfortunately I am aware of the MSRP and that's why I am doubting that I could get a frame at a budget price.

I'll drop Benito an email to see what he has. I'm not exactly sure what this lace and grommet system is but it seems to be worth investigating.
post #1210 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Slump Buster View Post

The seller said that he bought it from someone thinking that it would fit his frame but it did not so he bought a different screen. I wasn't in the high-end screen market but the price is right so I thought I'd give it a look. Yeah, unfortunately I am aware of the MSRP and that's why I am doubting that I could get a frame at a budget price.

I'll drop Benito an email to see what he has. I'm not exactly sure what this lace and grommet system is but it seems to be worth investigating.

Just be careful some that have screen material with no frame can be because there screen material was replaced leaving them with an extra screen with no frame...

If it was me i would NEVER buy an extra screen material without seeing it unrolled and mounted on a frame so it can be inspected...
post #1211 of 1855
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Originally Posted by fraisa View Post

Just be careful some that have screen material with no frame can be because there screen material was replaced leaving them with an extra screen with no frame...

If it was me i would NEVER buy an extra screen material without seeing it unrolled and mounted on a frame so it can be inspected...

Very true. seeing in person is the best but with pics, i can also tell if a screen will be ok. If you show pics of creases or wrinkles, i can more than likely tell you if they will go away or not.

Benito
post #1212 of 1855
I doubt the frame is a budget price, nothing Stewart is budget priced:-) But having priced Stewart screens the material typically costs more than the frame which surprises some people. That's why its worth checking with a dealer to get an exact price. You might be able to put together your screen for 1/2 price or maybe less, which I can guarantee you won't get from a dealer unless they like losing money!
post #1213 of 1855
Very true statements! I'm going to head over to the DIY area to see if anyone has any experience with Stewart frames. I've searched for a couple of hours but haven't found anything yet.
post #1214 of 1855
I have a huge ton of experience with Stewart frames.....let me know what kind of questions you have. I'm sure i can answer them.

Benito
post #1215 of 1855
Hey guys, I'm wondering if Stewart has a screen that might be able to accommodate my needs. Situation:

-Target screen size: 120"-150"
-Uncontrolled ambient light: yes, several windows about 14' above the viewing area (vaulted ceiling)
-Projector mounting point: 15' - 17', on ceiling (assumed)
-Projector brightness: 1600 lumens, 2500 lumens

Basically, I'm looking for a screen that can help diffuse some of the light that will be coming in on those college football Saturday afternoons. I wish I could control those high windows, but I just can't right now. As such, I assume I'll need a high-gain screen. As for the projectors...I'm considering the Sharp XV-Z17000 (1600) for its 3D capabilities, and the BenQ W6000 for its 2500 lumens (in the event that 1600 isn't bright enough).

What would be my best bet if I went with Stewart? Any info that can help me narrow my choices would be fantastic.

Thanks.
post #1216 of 1855
Is the screen fixed or motorized? reason i ask is because if it's fixed, you can do the Firehawk G3. The fact that the light comes from above is a bad thing but you could still manage.

Benito
post #1217 of 1855
Thanks for the reply.

Re: the screen - I don't have one yet. I would prefer if it were fixed. As such, I'll move the Firehawk to the top of my list.

Since the windows above are a bad thing, would you then recommend I go with the higher lumen projector I'm considering? (2500 lumens)
post #1218 of 1855
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Originally Posted by ajreynol View Post

Thanks for the reply.

Re: the screen - I don't have one yet. I would prefer if it were fixed. As such, I'll move the Firehawk to the top of my list.

Since the windows above are a bad thing, would you then recommend I go with the higher lumen projector I'm considering? (2500 lumens)

If it's fixed, you can definitely do that size using Firehawk G3.
The windows above are a bad thing only because of the way that Firehawk rejects ambient light. A higher output projector is always recommended for this type of application but also really depends on how big you decide to go with your image.

Benito
post #1219 of 1855
Understood. and can the Firehawk be purchased through AV Science?
post #1220 of 1855
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Originally Posted by ajreynol View Post

Understood. and can the Firehawk be purchased through AV Science?

It can be along with other screen manufacturers. We are authorized dealers for many screen companies and for Stewart in specific, we are one of their top dealers. Feel free to contact any of us in sales.

Benito
post #1221 of 1855
will do. thank you for your time.
post #1222 of 1855
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Originally Posted by ajreynol View Post

will do. thank you for your time.

Not a problem, that's what we are here for... even on Easter Sunday
post #1223 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Benito Joaquin View Post

I'm almost positive you were looking at the older generation firehawk. The G3 version is so much smoother and with much less sparkling.

I had a sample of what was meant to be G3 firehawk material and could clearly see a sheen. This has me wondering whether it was mislabeled and actually an older version of the material. The sheen was the sole reason I didn't pick up a firehawk.
post #1224 of 1855
You should be able to tell right away. Just feeling the material, it feels really rough, like low grade sand paper. Call them! Let them know what you think and have them send another one with them double checking that it is Firehawk G3 before they send it out. If you like, i can request it for you.

Benito
post #1225 of 1855
Thanks for the offer, but I live in the UK. It took about 6 months and the calling of multiple different suppliers before getting the last lot of samples - I can't be bothered to do it again!
post #1226 of 1855
oh wow, yeah that's a different situation.

Benito
post #1227 of 1855
I really want to see a Firehawk Screen shot with lights on,
again i am a firehawk fan and dont want to see it fail.

But i just wish others would post some shots of this screen in action,
Lights On....

They say ask and you shall receive,
I just hope thats true....

Question....
Does Stewart Make a Electric Pull down of the Firehawk?
post #1228 of 1855
Yes, I have a motorized Firehawk G3 with 12V trigger. It works great as it comes down when the JVC projector come on.
post #1229 of 1855
They have a manual pull down called a Communicator. To be honest, it's not really worth it. Da Lite for example....there's a huge price difference between motorized and pull down. The difference when working with a Stewart is very small. Might as well pay the extra and go with a motorized screen.

Benito
post #1230 of 1855
I am going to be upgrading my home theater to a Stewart 100" (16x9) screen later this year. I'm almost certainly going to be getting a JVC RS40. My room has all dark colors and full light control. I am considering going with the GrayHawk G3 material because I love really deep blacks. Does anyone think this is a mistake? Some people have said the blacks on the RS40 are good enough that one doesn't need a gray screen and one should go with the StudioTek 130 G3. Any opinions on this?
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