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post #1651 of 1855
I had friends come over last night to watch " Limitless ". They hadn't been in our theater since I installed my new screens. We were watching on my 118" wide 2.35:1 StudioTek 130 G3 screen. My friend Bob said " wow - this looks better than any commercial theater - the picture is great " !!

Thank you Stewart !! smile.gif

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post #1652 of 1855
Hi Lee. My SIM Lumis Host. It's a tough call on which screen I like better - the Neve is better for my 16:9 screen since I don't need as much gain - plenty bright with a 1.1 gain. smile.gif
post #1653 of 1855
PTFE is supposed to 1.0 and is missprinted on Stewart look at the sst and studiotec 130 , snowmatte130 for example
1,1 on PTFE
post #1654 of 1855
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PTFE is supposed to 1.0 and is missprinted on Stewart look at the sst and studiotec 130 , snowmatte130 for example
1,1 on PTFE

What does Teflon have to do with Stewart screens ?
post #1655 of 1855
** PTFE - 1.0 Gain, Reflectance Standard
it means that a screen is projecting the same light that is from projector no loss or gain
in stewart it says PTFE is 1.1 on studiotec 130 ,snowwhite 130
post #1656 of 1855
Total newbie to the world of Avs and I jumped in with both feet and bought a used Stewart filmscreen ultramatte 150 off craigslist. Now my problem is how to raise and lower the screen. I tried searching here and on their site but haven't seen the controller cable. I don't want to use the projector that came with it and there is no cable to connect it.

Their site says 12v power and I did get an adapter with it. If you guys can point me in the right direction I'd be eternally grateful!!
post #1657 of 1855
Is the Firehawk G3 suitable if the windows are behind the sofa (in other words, the ambient light comes from behind the projector and perpendicular to the screen)? The distance from the windows to the screen is about 5 meters (16 feet).
post #1658 of 1855
No screen can handle light that comes perpendicular to the screen. How can it know what is projected light and what is stray light? It cant. High contrast screens can supress light coming from the sides, ceiling or floor. If it comes from behind, get a curtain!
post #1659 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Drexler View Post

No screen can handle light that comes perpendicular to the screen. How can it know what is projected light and what is stray light? It cant. High contrast screens can supress light coming from the sides, ceiling or floor. If it comes from behind, get a curtain!

Do you mean that a normal screen will work as good as an screen with ambient light rejection properties? Or among such special screen, is there one that may help better than other ones? DLP, Screen Innovations, Stewart, all of them are the same quality in this situation?
post #1660 of 1855
I am saying it is a bad situation and none of them will look any good unless you can block that light. No screen is designed to handle ambient light that comes from the same direction as the projected light. What you can do is try to overpower it with a really bright projector, but you will never get convincing blacks and contrast no matter what.
post #1661 of 1855
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I am saying it is a bad situation and none of them will look any good unless you can block that light. No screen is designed to handle ambient light that comes from the same direction as the projected light. What you can do is try to overpower it with a really bright projector, but you will never get convincing blacks and contrast no matter what.

+1. No screen can defy the laws of physics or work miracles. It reflects light. It there is light you don't want reflected off the screen - like from a window - block the window.
post #1662 of 1855
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

I got a G4 sample today. It doesn't look terribly different from the existing G3 and SST, but obviously the actual screen properties are different ( and better ).

Is there less shimmering? What are the differences? What about blacks? White? Screen structure?

Where did you get a sample?

Thank you!
post #1663 of 1855
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What are the differences?

See post #1652 of 1674 - above. I'm pretty certain that blacks, whites look similar. I never saw much shimmering or screen structure when I had my G3. With a lower gain on the G4, I'm pretty sure there would be less artifacts on a G4 than a G3.

If you want a sample, send me an email with your mailing address. I'll send you one.
post #1664 of 1855
Hi all, I'm looking to get a twelve foot (wide) screen. I am currently considering a Falcon Screen, but recent discussion on my build thread is leading me to believe that the 1.1 gain of the falcon screen might not be adequate to sustain a desirable brightness for 2D and 3D. I'm coming from a Stewart ST130 G3 screen, which I was very satisfied; however, I'm now going in the Acoustically Transparent direction which means an additional loss of brightness. Thus, my question is this: which of Stewart's AT Screens can at least match the quality of the ST130 (which I loved), but has sufficient gain to get a great brightness in both 2D and 3D. Projector is a Sony VPL-VW600ES. Any help would be most appreciated!
post #1665 of 1855
Hi guys,

I am going to buy a JVC DLA-RS6710 soon to put in my HT room. My throw distance is 3,37m and my seating position around 2,60m from the screen, maybe a little more. My walls are light brown, my ceiling is white, floor is dark blue carpet. I can have total control of the lighting. I was recommended a 83" Stewart Studiotek G130, Luxus Deluxe 16/9 with Microperf X2 (I need a AT screen as my speakers will be behind the screen). I will probably go for a 100" screen. Is the screen recommended will match my projector in my set up ? Any other recommendation ? I will watch a mix of Movies, TV Shows and play games, not too much TV watching.

Have a good day.
post #1666 of 1855
Oh I forgot, I will watch 3D program too ...
post #1667 of 1855
Quote:
Hi all, I'm looking to get a twelve foot (wide) screen. I am currently considering a Falcon Screen, but recent discussion on my build thread is leading me to believe that the 1.1 gain of the falcon screen might not be adequate to sustain a desirable brightness for 2D and 3D. I'm coming from a Stewart ST130 G3 screen, which I was very satisfied; however, I'm now going in the Acoustically Transparent direction which means an additional loss of brightness. Thus, my question is this: which of Stewart's AT Screens can at least match the quality of the ST130 (which I loved), but has sufficient gain to get a great brightness in both 2D and 3D. Projector is a Sony VPL-VW600ES. Any help would be most appreciated!

With that projector the new Stewart Cima Perforado could work - http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/cima/Documents/PerfOrado_2013.pdf

" Great brightness " will always depend on screen size. The Perforado starts at 1.1 gain. What size screen are you thinking about getting?
post #1668 of 1855
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Originally Posted by BrutaleZEN View Post

Hi guys,

I am going to buy a JVC DLA-RS6710 soon to put in my HT room. My throw distance is 3,37m and my seating position around 2,60m from the screen, maybe a little more. My walls are light brown, my ceiling is white, floor is dark blue carpet. I can have total control of the lighting. I was recommended a 83" Stewart Studiotek G130, Luxus Deluxe 16/9 with Microperf X2 (I need a AT screen as my speakers will be behind the screen). I will probably go for a 100" screen. Is the screen recommended will match my projector in my set up ? Any other recommendation ? I will watch a mix of Movies, TV Shows and play games, not too much TV watching.

Have a good day.

Any chance you can paint the ceiling a dark color? Your image will thank you! Darker walls would help too - but of course I don't know how much flexibility you have in colors...just wanted to mention it.
post #1669 of 1855
Hi,

I didn't want to touch anything at first, but it is looking more and more that I will have to put a darker color on walls and ceiling. I can do that as it is my house. Let me know about your advice on screen ?

Have a good day.
post #1670 of 1855
since you have light control, and you're going to go with darker colors, then that screen will be a great match for your projector!
post #1671 of 1855
Hi All,

I am in the process of designing my cabinet / screen wall and I try to figure out the lengh of the brackets if I use the Quick Snap Wall Mount on my soon to be delivered 100" 16/9 Studiotek 130 G3 Luxus Deluxe. I try to measure where I need to have the beams that will support the screen. How long are those brackets and how far are they from the border of the frame ?

Thanks a lot for your help.
post #1672 of 1855
It's all on the Stewart website if you look around - http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/owners_manual/sn_manual.pdf
post #1673 of 1855
And once again a used Stewart who is ruined

wrinkled, material is deteriating chips torn out of canvas
is this the quallity you expect when you buy the most expensive screen in the World ?????

i thought you was buing a screen of Life or atleast 25 years or more .. i have a 15 year old cheep screen still perfect in material but here are once again stewarts lousy
screen material enjoy the Pictures and this isnt my screen just a screen i found at ebay

perhaps Stewart can tell me the age of this screen ? and also how he have destroid it like you guys told me that i have done with my screen ...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stewart-Filmscreen-LX-92-HD-Motorized-Screen-FireHawk-92-DEMO-/221336301412?pt=US_Projection_Screens_Material&hash=item3388abef64

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post #1674 of 1855
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post #1675 of 1855
The screen in the Ebay auction is from 2003. So ten years old.
post #1676 of 1855

Received my custom Firehawk G4, Luxus A, motorised screen today with IR remote.  120", 2:35, 19.5" of blackout drop.  This screen is for a non-dedicated theater to pair with a Sony VPL-VW600es which gets installed today.

 

The cabinet is fairly standard.  For the price, I was hoping for more, but I and the installers were horrified at the lack of quality assurance.  Here's what we found:

 

 After paying a HUGE premium to include an IR remote (im in a rental so I don't want to hard wire), the housing came with an ugly black power box attached that has this horrid Fisher Price looking IR sensor with a long white cable.

 

The housing is black, the power cable leading from the screen is white and it came unterminated with no plug on the end.  The power box is black, obnoxious looking and ruins the aesthetic of the entire room, and there is a long white cable hanging from that with a cheap looking IR sensor on the end.

 

On top of that, the remote was not new, it was used, scuffed all over, and doesn't work. I worked hard to buy this screen, and I'm all about paying a premium for a premium product, but when you're charging double what the competitors are, this is unacceptable.

 

See the photos attached.  The installers were shocked as they had literally installed a much lesser brand screen a few hours before with everything built into the housing and all they had to do was plug in the power.  I've called and left a message for Stewart, as has the dealer but haven't heard from anyone yet.

 

 

 

Someone please chime in...

post #1677 of 1855
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Someone please chime in...

I have a couple of comments -
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The cabinet is fairly standard. For the price, I was hoping for more
- that's the basic Luxus Model A case. That is what I own. Stewart makes fancier cases, if that is what you wanted. Like the Caberet model.
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On top of that, the remote was not new, it was used, scuffed all over, and doesn't work.
That's lame - I'm sure they will send you a new one.
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The installers were shocked as they had literally installed a much lesser brand screen a few hours before with everything built into the housing and all they had to do was plug in the power.
None of the Da Lite or Stewart electric screens I've owned came with anything more than either a pigtail, or just a J box to wire to. That's how they come.

Normally this type of screen would be installed behind a soffit or some such concealed valance, so those controls would not be seen. Like in my theater -

Here is a view of my Da-Lite tensioned Cosmopolitan Electrol screen ( left ) and Stewart Luxus A screen ( right ) mounted on a soffit.
post #1678 of 1855

Awesome.  Thank you Craig.

 

I have exposed beams and nowhere to hide the box so I'll have to build something aesthetic.  The nicer casing would have worked really well for me but it was at least another 3 weeks wait.  I'm still surprised about the lack of termination, a separate box and a dangling IR sensor.  Thanks for chiming in.  I'm on the phone now and they're working on a quick fix.  Not a good start.  Hope the picture quality is AMAZING.  I'll know in about 2 hrs!

post #1679 of 1855

Quick question.  My installer is here and they're mounting the projector.  The top of the viewable portion of my screen is 73" from the floor.  Should the projector be mounted so that the top of the lens is no higher than the top of the viewable portion of the screen?  I've heard so many different things, but I want optimal picture quality.

 

Thanks very much!

post #1680 of 1855
When I buy a Stewart screen, I feel my money is going into an excellent screen surface. I'm not saying that the look of the case is not important - and in your situation, it is ( I personally don't much care ). You could hide the entire screen with a curtain rod with a velvet valance or some such decorative arrangement. I do think you will be pleased with the picture - what projector are you using?/
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