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post #331 of 1421
I recently purchased a 110" 16:19 BW precision screen for my panny 900. The quality was above and beyone what I was expecting!

I was trying to figure out a way to mask the screen down for 2.35:1 and I stumbled upon a cheap and easy way that works great. Unfortunately, It will only be really easy if your screen width is 8'.

First, I bought about 3 yards of black velvet from JoAnns. About $20 with a coupon.

Next, I bought a 4'x8' sheet of 1" thick polystyrene foam from Home Depot. It is in the insulation section for about $12.

I got home & fired up a widescreen DVD & then measured the image on the screen from the inside top & bottom of the frame. I ripped the foam on my table saw to the same dimension, minus 1/8".

Next, I wrapped the panels with the velvet, and used a hot glue gun to attach it to the back side. At first, I wrapped the velvet around the sides, but ended up having to trim the velvet flush with the side of the foam to keep the panels from bowing out. I thought about using the spray adhesive, but I wasn't sure if it would eat away the foam.

All I have to to to mask my screen down is pop the panels into the frame. The friction holds them in place.. no fasteners required.
post #332 of 1421
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Originally Posted by sonichart View Post

Here's a link to some closeup shots:

http://carada.com/Projection-Screen-Comparison.aspx

I think if you search this forum, you will find a couple of posts of people with the Precision from from far away.

The other reason you might want to go with Criterion over precision, is that the screen material is flush with the frame on the Criterion. Where as on the Precision, there is a gap or a space between the frame and screen material (as shown in the link above).

The way I figured it out-- If i'm going to be spending the money anyway, might as well spend a hundred more and get the nice frame. That's just me though.

Thanks, but I meant pics of the whole screen on the wall -- to compare what it looks like to the whole criterion. I've seen those shots on carada's site. Looking for more real world stuff.
post #333 of 1421
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Originally Posted by RedBelly View Post

I recently purchased a 110" 16:19 BW precision screen for my panny 900. The quality was above and beyone what I was expecting!

I was trying to figure out a way to mask the screen down for 2.35:1 and I stumbled upon a cheap and easy way that works great. Unfortunately, It will only be really easy if your screen width is 8'.

First, I bought about 3 yards of black velvet from JoAnns. About $20 with a coupon.

Next, I bought a 4'x8' sheet of 1" thick polystyrene foam from Home Depot. It is in the insulation section for about $12.

I got home & fired up a widescreen DVD & then measured the image on the screen from the inside top & bottom of the frame. I ripped the foam on my table saw to the same dimension, minus 1/8".

Next, I wrapped the panels with the velvet, and used a hot glue gun to attach it to the back side. At first, I wrapped the velvet around the sides, but ended up having to trim the velvet flush with the side of the foam to keep the panels from bowing out. I thought about using the spray adhesive, but I wasn't sure if it would eat away the foam.

All I have to to to mask my screen down is pop the panels into the frame. The friction holds them in place.. no fasteners required.

Thanks for this Tip.I have the same screen so i might give it a go.
post #334 of 1421
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Originally Posted by jeffinator View Post

I want to upgrade my current DIY solution for a "real" screen. I've been looking at the Stewart FireHawk and Greyhawk RS and the Carada screens (very different animals, I'm sure you'd agree).

Although I have samples from both manufacturers, it's kind of difficult to determine how a full screen of a particular material is going to look. I'm looking for some real world feedback here.

I had the Optoma Greywolf 1 for a while before tiring of its texture and other problems (I also have to mount my projector on the ceiling).

My room is mostly light-controlled--there are two windows I have covered with heavy curtains for viewing.

Is there anyone else out there with a BenQ PE7700 (or other comparable DLP) that is using one of these screens? Are you using the BW, CW, or Gray? Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison with Stewart screens?

Anyone have any real-world advice for me?
post #335 of 1421
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Originally Posted by jeffinator View Post

Anyone have any real-world advice for me?

Hi,

I was only able to do compairsons with the Stewart and BW samples and, not seeing any real difference between the two, went with a 100' Criterion BW screen. I think the Carada screen is amazing. Totally transparentand solidly uniform. I upgraded from the Graywolf 1 screen and haven't regretted my decision for a second. I have a Panasonic AE900 projector. I have a pretty full review in this thread comparing the Graywolf and the BW.

Hope this helps.

Elio
post #336 of 1421
I just received my 80" 16x9 Carada Classic White.

I'm wondering (other than reading the manual 3 times over) does anyone have any advice on how to install?

Jay
post #337 of 1421
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Originally Posted by conwayjay View Post

I just received my 80" 16x9 Carada Classic White.

I'm wondering (other than reading the manual 3 times over) does anyone have any advice on how to install?

Jay

Just follow the instuctions. It's very straight forward and simple to install. The only tips that I would have are:

1- Use the correct size screwdriver and be very careful to drive your screws straight and go slow to prevent stripping. The screws holding the frame together can be difficult to drive.

2- Make sure you measure carefully so that the mounting brackets are spaced apart correctly.

3- Be very careful about damaging or soiling your screen while installing. Don't be in a rush and have your work space prepared.
post #338 of 1421
Soupdujour,

Thank you for the advice. My neighbor and I installed the screen this evening. You're correct, the instructions were very straight forward and easy to follow. Installation went very smoothly.

The screen looks amazing! I'm about 1 week from being completely finished with the room... still need to mount the projector and install the sound.

Thanks again,
Jay
post #339 of 1421
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Originally Posted by RedBelly View Post

I recently purchased a 110" 16:19 BW precision screen for my panny 900. The quality was above and beyone what I was expecting!

I was trying to figure out a way to mask the screen down for 2.35:1 and I stumbled upon a cheap and easy way that works great. Unfortunately, It will only be really easy if your screen width is 8'.

First, I bought about 3 yards of black velvet from JoAnns. About $20 with a coupon.

Next, I bought a 4'x8' sheet of 1" thick polystyrene foam from Home Depot. It is in the insulation section for about $12.

I got home & fired up a widescreen DVD & then measured the image on the screen from the inside top & bottom of the frame. I ripped the foam on my table saw to the same dimension, minus 1/8".

Next, I wrapped the panels with the velvet, and used a hot glue gun to attach it to the back side. At first, I wrapped the velvet around the sides, but ended up having to trim the velvet flush with the side of the foam to keep the panels from bowing out. I thought about using the spray adhesive, but I wasn't sure if it would eat away the foam.

All I have to to to mask my screen down is pop the panels into the frame. The friction holds them in place.. no fasteners required.

Can you give us some screen shots of this RedBelly?
post #340 of 1421
Jay, I'm glad the install went good for you. They look good and I think you'll be very pleased once you project a picture onto it. Of all the things I've purchased for my HT, this is one thing I feel the best about simply because I can't yet foresee myself upgrading it at some point. I can't say the same about anything else I've bought.
post #341 of 1421
Just wanted to add a plug for the good people at Carada, what great products and even better customer service. I recently upgraded my digital from an ancient Dell to a Sony hs51a. I also have an electrohome 8500 CRT projector. I had a 110 inch cinema white carada screen. The Sony looked good, but it could have been brighter. I'm pushing the limits at 110 inches with both projectors but it's what I have to deal with.

After a quick email to Carada, I had a sample of brilliant white 1 day later. The brilliant white sample looked like a window to a brighter screen. I placed the order and had the new screen surface the next day.

Wow what a difference. It makes the sony look much better, it really added some punch and I can see no negative to the upgrade. I can watch sports with the lights up, and my CRT looks better as well.

No hotspots, color shift or any issues at all. I was able to lower the brightness on the bulb so the black level and shadow detail actually looks better.
post #342 of 1421
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Originally Posted by Blasst View Post

Can you give us some screen shots of this RedBelly?

Sure thing.. I'm away from home, but I'll try to have them by this weekend.
post #343 of 1421
Motorized, motorized, MOTORIZED........................please Carada expand your product line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #344 of 1421
Also, how about a gray screen with some GAIN, 1.5 to 1.8, say.
post #345 of 1421
I've been looking at some screens...

I got samples of the Stewart Firehawk and Grayhawk; Da-lite Highpower; Carada Classic Cinema White , Brilliant White and High Contrast Grey. Taped them up to my 2:35 110" wide Dalite HCCV (DIY). The pj is an Infocus IN76. Carpet is medium shade of gray, the walls and cathedral ceiling are Ivory color, the windows have Ivory blinds AND Ivory Drapes over the blinds. This helps somewhat with light coming from outside but there's still some light bouncing around the room.

I really wanted the Firehawk to be the answer. But it's viewing cone was not wide enough; And the cone on the HighPower even narrower. Also, the High Power blacks were too washed out for my liking. The Grayhawk looked almost identical to my HCCV. The Carada Grey was too dark.

That left the Carada CCW and BW. I thought they both looked quite good. The BW got WAF approval but, as others have said, the brightest screen frequently gets the vote. My previous screen was a 1.0 gain. When I got the HCCV I remember being much happier with the blacks so I'm pretty sure I would notice the difference if I went CCW or BW. But in fairness, I didn't re-calibrate the pj when I did the comparisons. Maybe with a BW and lowered PJ brightness it'd be OK?

So am I still undecided? Yep. But one way or the other I'm getting rid of my DIY frame and getting a new one.

I'd love to hear someone say I'd be very happy with a BW. But right now I'm looking at my taped up comparisons with the pj off, and asking which swatch is the color of black that I want. I think it's the HCCV. Sure wish the Carada Gray had more gain!

Mike

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Edit: pj is an IN76, not IN72
post #346 of 1421
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike N Ike View Post

I've been looking at some screens...

I got samples of the Stewart Firehawk and Grayhawk; Da-lite Highpower; Carada Classic Cinema White , Brilliant White and High Contrast Grey. Taped them up to my 2:35 110" wide Dalite HCCV (DIY). The pj is an Infocus IN72. Carpet is medium shade of gray, the walls and cathedral ceiling are Ivory color, the windows have Ivory blinds AND Ivory Drapes over the blinds. This helps somewhat with light coming from outside but there's still some light bouncing around the room.

I really wanted the Firehawk to be the answer. But it's viewing cone was not wide enough; And the cone on the HighPower even narrower. Also, the High Power blacks were too washed out for my liking. The Grayhawk looked almost identical to my HCCV. The Carada Grey was too dark.

That left the Carada CCW and BW. I thought they both looked quite good. The BW got WAF approval but, as others have said, the brightest screen frequently gets the vote. My previous screen was a 1.0 gain. When I got the HCCV I remember being much happier with the blacks so I'm pretty sure I would notice the difference if I went CCW or BW. But in fairness, I didn't re-calibrate the pj when I did the comparisons. Maybe with a BW and lowered PJ brightness it'd be OK?

So am I still undecided? Yep. But one way or the other I'm getting rid of my DIY frame and getting a new one.

I'd love to hear someone say I'd be very happy with a BW. But right now I'm looking at my taped up comparisons with the pj off, and asking which swatch is the color of black that I want. I think it's the HCCV. Sure wish the Carada Gray had more gain!

Mike

I tried the swatch on the screen thing too and the blacks on the BW didn't seem quite as good (I was using an Optoma Graywolf 1) but I took a chance and ordered it anyway. Once I was done recalibrating my projector I found that not only were the blacks as deep as they were on my Graywolf the contrast ratio was better. I think you'll be very happy with the BW screen. It has just enough gain to overcome modest room lighting, an extremely wide viewing cone, gorgeous color and sharpness, no hotspotting and total transparency. I'm using it with a Panasonic AE900 projector and I'm loving it.

Elio
post #347 of 1421
Elio,

Thanks for the reply. Makes that BW sound pretty good. I'm getting close to a decision and am leaning toward the BW right now.

Mike
post #348 of 1421
I'm confused: the BW is supposed to be a clone of the Stewart Studiotek130, which is known NOT to be very good with the presence of any ambient light. Yet Carada says that the BW, with its 1.4 gain, is recommended for rooms with ambient light. ??? To bad that Carada doesn't make a gray screen with ~1.4 gain, comparable to the Stewart Firehawk.
post #349 of 1421
I dont think it is meant to be a clone. They do have differences. For one, from what I have read, the ST 130 has an optical coating, the BW does not. Where did you read it is meant to be a clone?
post #350 of 1421
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I dont think it is meant to be a clone. They do have differences. For one, from what I have read, the ST 130 has an optical coating, the BW does not. Where did you read it is meant to be a clone?

Perhaps 'clone' is not completely appropriate, but 'very similar'; I believe it was the review in Ultimate AV. And it was meant as a compliment to the BW. I was just surprised then to hear that it was supposed to be good for ambient light situations.
post #351 of 1421
I have not heard that it is good for ambient light situations, but that would be a plus as I am about to order the BW I have total light control, but I will take any bonus perks!
post #352 of 1421
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I have not heard that it is good for ambient light situations, but that would be a plus as I am about to order the BW I have total light control, but I will take any bonus perks!

On the Carada website, in describing their 3 different surface materials, they say that the BW is recommended for 'environments with some ambient light'.
post #353 of 1421
If you are considering a Carada screen and you are unsure which material would be best in your situation I would highly recommend emailing David Giles at Carada your questions. Their customer service is astounding.

I took his advice and have been very pleased with my 106 inch Criterion CCW screen.

B
post #354 of 1421
Quote:
Originally Posted by conwayjay View Post

I just received my 80" 16x9 Carada Classic White.

I'm wondering (other than reading the manual 3 times over) does anyone have any advice on how to install?

Jay

Have a friend or relative give a hand. Works better with 2 people.
post #355 of 1421
I decided I'm done with manual pull down non-tensioned screens as the waves are too disturbing to me. I have an Optoma H31 in a dedicated and light controlled room with sides and ceiling dark and was wondering if the 92 inch Criterion BW Carada would be a good match. Anyone???
post #356 of 1421
For those that are curious what the screen ships in, here's a shot of a 110". This is one long package:

post #357 of 1421
Yesterday I finally placed an order for a screen and Donnie, your photo of the goods isn't helping one bit! Still, I'm glad to have made the decision and replace the blackout cloth - it has served me well but now that HD DVD is here I felt it was time to invest in a proper screen. I decided on a 128" BW in 2:35 - I think I will try either the Sahara or Apollo 13 HDs for starters, I hope I'm impressed.
post #358 of 1421
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Originally Posted by filmbuff2 View Post

Yesterday I finally placed an order for a screen and Donnie, your photo of the goods isn't helping one bit! Still, I'm glad to have made the decision and replace the blackout cloth - it has served me well but now that HD DVD is here I felt it was time to invest in a proper screen. I decided on a 128" BW in 2:35 - I think I will try either the Sahara or Apollo 13 HDs for starters, I hope I'm impressed.

So how does it look? I'm planning on getting the Optoma HD81, Panamorph UH350, and a 136" Carada BW 2:35 for my 14x21 theater in my new home starting construction this week. Really look forward to your input as I own a HD-A1 and will be watching a lot of HD-DVD with this setup.
post #359 of 1421
Makomachine -

As soon as the screen arrives I will let you know - and one of these days it would be great to get one of those anamorphic lenses as well. There was a hold up due to some missing paperwork but it is on its way again so hopefully I'll see the package before the end of next week. I also was going to go for the 136" but decided it would not work out in my set up but it is best to always go as large as possible!
post #360 of 1421
Every time I think I've got it figured out something else comes along! I'd initially dismissed Carada due to the low-gain/high-light-loss of the screen, but I hadn't considered BW. If the BW has a true gain of about 1.1 (as someone here measured) it may work well for me. By all accounts they're well made, and I like the looks of the trim material.

I just wish they had more sizes in the smaller end- they go right from 72" to 80". Too bad they don't have a step or two in between.
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