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post #1381 of 1663
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Thanks for the review on this floor rising model. $2200 is a lot of money to pay for what turned out to be an unsatisfactory screen. For that amount of money I would have shipped the screen right back.

Precisely what I did, Mr G! Thanks. The EZ Frame 235 has turned out to be a much better and significantly cheaper option.
post #1382 of 1663
Some pictures of my screen as promised. (Note that the door is old and is not today's standard size.) Sorry for the blurred pictures, my phone had a time focusing in low light with the white materials. The black "cabinet" use to be my low 13" HDTV stand I had custom built: still needed it for my gear. It was used with the Mitsubishi WD-92840 I just sold.






Edited by Wesley Hester - 12/21/12 at 7:35am
post #1383 of 1663
^^^

Congrats! It looks really cool.

Now the big question is: what do you think?
post #1384 of 1663
VMAX 120UWH2, can someone give me the exact length on these screen without the packaging? im trying to fit it in the back of my suv going across the usa border to canada.im getting conflicting info from retailers and elite. is it 117inch?
post #1385 of 1663
You were right, it's better than just a plain wall. What little contrast the Optoma HD33 has is improved, whites are whiter, blacks are perceived a little darker, the image pops more and it can be viewed a little better with more ambient light that before.
post #1386 of 1663
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Originally Posted by icallyou604 View Post

VMAX 120UWH2, can someone give me the exact length on these screen without the packaging? im trying to fit it in the back of my suv going across the usa border to canada.im getting conflicting info from retailers and elite. is it 117inch?

Try here.

http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14%3Avmax2-series&catid=1%3Aelectric-projection-screens-wallceiling&Itemid=19&lang=en

http://www.elitescreens.com/images/stories/products/VMAX2/vmax2_pack.jpg

If the box itself is 120.5" then the given case length of 117.8" seems correct.

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Edited by Mr.G - 12/22/12 at 9:34am
post #1387 of 1663
Does anyone have an updated review of the Acoustic Transparent 1080P2? My setup will require this and I do not have a big budget to get the $1000+ screens.
post #1388 of 1663
I'm thinking about getting one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-M84UWH-Manual-Projection/product-reviews/B000AMUL9S/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

But I'm afraid of the reviews with people complaining about the "sparkles" in the whites. How bad is this effect? I'm currently annoyed with this "High Contrast Gray" screen material I got from Carl's Place's eBay store for the very reason everything has sparkles, especially the whites.
From one of the reviews: "The whites sparkle and glisten in a big way. Like there are tiny grains of sand that are reflecting white into all the colors of the rainbow like little diamonds."
post #1389 of 1663
Hmmmm, if your seeing sparkles then it may be that your projector is part of the issue as well. My guess would be that you have a DLP projector, known to produce the Rainbow Effect but it can happen on other projector types. I use an Epson LCD and I've only seen it rarely on my old Elite Manual screen but I had the projector at the minimum distance for 135" so brightness was maximized which can cause the effect. I'm currently using an Elite Ezframe 120" and have never seen the rainbow effect while being 2ft greater than the minimum. Also, I have tried white and high contrast grey.

Here is a good link on the effect: http://www.projectorreviews.com/advice/HomeTheaterProjector-FAQs/ProjectorsRainbowEffect.php
post #1390 of 1663
I'm using the Optoma HD33 with an Elite Screen and I don't see sparkles in white areas. The "silk screen" effect found in rear projection DLP and their screens is not present either.
post #1391 of 1663
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Originally Posted by taskman View Post

Hmmmm, if your seeing sparkles then it may be that your projector is part of the issue as well. My guess would be that you have a DLP projector, known to produce the Rainbow Effect but it can happen on other projector types. I use an Epson LCD and I've only seen it rarely on my old Elite Manual screen but I had the projector at the minimum distance for 135" so brightness was maximized which can cause the effect. I'm currently using an Elite Ezframe 120" and have never seen the rainbow effect while being 2ft greater than the minimum. Also, I have tried white and high contrast grey.
Here is a good link on the effect: http://www.projectorreviews.com/advice/HomeTheaterProjector-FAQs/ProjectorsRainbowEffect.php

I know what the RBE is... I notice that sometimes if I move my eyes the right way, but that's not the issue. It's specks on the screen. I don't notice it when I use a wall to project the image on, but on cheap/bad screens I do.

Basically the material I got from Carl's Place I can see the pattern of the fabric, and I see tons of shiny little sparkles/speckles everywhere... kinda like a bunch of really tiny really overdriven hotspots.

I've heard some people complaining of this same issue with some Elite screens also... the strange thing is one of the people complaining about it says it isn't present on the 4:3 Elite screen he has, but is present on the 16:9.

I've decided to just go with painted drywall as my next experiment, as people claim to get better results with the right paint than they do with even $500 screens.
post #1392 of 1663
Just ordered a 166" 2.35 AT Elite EzFrame from Amazon for $424. I have been thinking of going CIH for a while, one of the reasons I chose the Panasonic AE8000, but wasn't planning on buying anything now. I was poking around Amazon and saw that price and decided to order it. I'm not sure about Elite, and especially AT material. But I didn't have time to do a lot of research since there was only one left and as of tomorrow I have to pay sales tax at Amazon.

Am I going to be disappointed with that material? Will I see the perf? Front row is about 14' and second is about 27'. I don't expect a big difference in brightness since it is 1.0 gain, same as my current screen. And the 8000 is so bright I've been using it on eco mode. Would have preferred to ask these questions before ordering, but not too big of a risk at that price.
Edited by manning99 - 1/1/13 at 4:24pm
post #1393 of 1663
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Originally Posted by damag0r View Post

I'm thinking about getting one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-M84UWH-Manual-Projection/product-reviews/B000AMUL9S/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
But I'm afraid of the reviews with people complaining about the "sparkles" in the whites. How bad is this effect? I'm currently annoyed with this "High Contrast Gray" screen material I got from Carl's Place's eBay store for the very reason everything has sparkles, especially the whites.
From one of the reviews: "The whites sparkle and glisten in a big way. Like there are tiny grains of sand that are reflecting white into all the colors of the rainbow like little diamonds."

For the last year I have been using a 106in Projecta model B screen (manual pull down) I purchased from Bestbuy with an epson 8350. I have found this to be a great combo, but recently decided to add a 120in screen so that I could have a larger image for 2:35 movies. So two screens, one for each aspect ratio. I ended up getting an Elite M120XWH2 (manual pull down) as it was inexpensive and I could return it if it didn't work out. I found it to generally be quite good and comparable to the Projecta. The one area I noticed that was different was with white scenes such as clothing, the surface of the screen would be visible and tend to give the image a sense of depth beyond the screen.This behavior seems to be localized and I think is related to hot spotting. This may be what others are describing as sparkles in the whites. The screen I have has the Elite Max White material. On most movies it's a minor infrequent annoyance, but on others such as Casablance, it can be distracting. mad.gif

Now that I've had the 120in screen I'm finding I like it for 16x9 movies also and would like to get a fixed frame screen in this size or even a 135, something like the Elite Sable. These are available in the Cine White material. My only reservation is that it may be like the Max White material and cause the same effect with whites. Can anyone withe the Sable frames confirm that they don't have this problem or that it doesn't hot spot?

Thanks!smile.gif
post #1394 of 1663
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Originally Posted by TNLDC View Post

Now that I've had the 120in screen I'm finding I like it for 16x9 movies also and would like to get a fixed frame screen in this size or even a 135, something like the Elite Sable. These are available in the Cine White material. My only reservation is that it may be like the Max White material and cause the same effect with whites. Can anyone withe the Sable frames confirm that they don't have this problem or that it doesn't hot spot?
Thanks!smile.gif

I helped my niece install the 120" Elite SableFrame with the Panasonic AR100U projector in her home theater and it does not exhibit any sparklies or hot spots.
post #1395 of 1663
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Originally Posted by TNLDC View Post

For the last year I have been using a 106in Projecta model B screen (manual pull down) I purchased from Bestbuy with an epson 8350. I have found this to be a great combo, but recently decided to add a 120in screen so that I could have a larger image for 2:35 movies. So two screens, one for each aspect ratio. I ended up getting an Elite M120XWH2 (manual pull down) as it was inexpensive and I could return it if it didn't work out. I found it to generally be quite good and comparable to the Projecta. The one area I noticed that was different was with white scenes such as clothing, the surface of the screen would be visible and tend to give the image a sense of depth beyond the screen.This behavior seems to be localized and I think is related to hot spotting. This may be what others are describing as sparkles in the whites. The screen I have has the Elite Max White material. On most movies it's a minor infrequent annoyance, but on others such as Casablance, it can be distracting. mad.gif
Now that I've had the 120in screen I'm finding I like it for 16x9 movies also and would like to get a fixed frame screen in this size or even a 135, something like the Elite Sable. These are available in the Cine White material. My only reservation is that it may be like the Max White material and cause the same effect with whites. Can anyone withe the Sable frames confirm that they don't have this problem or that it doesn't hot spot?
Thanks!smile.gif

I am using an Elite Screens ER120WH1 with CineWhite in combination with a Panasonic PT-AE8000U and I'm happy to say "no" issues to report here!
post #1396 of 1663
Wesley,

How did you choose this screen? They have multiple options and I want to make sure I pick the one that is best for my set up.

Thanks!!
post #1397 of 1663
I have to admit that first and foremost that it was the low-ish price for a 135" fixed frame screen. I've been using rear projection HDTVs of ever increasing sizes since 2000. This screen and the Optoma HD33 both fit into my current budget at the start of this new (for me) journey into front projection. I'll go all out for true 4K Ultra HD when the time is right: read when 4K content of any kind is widely available and prices reach a reasonable level.
My setup is in a living room with two windows (shaded but will do more to block additional sunlight soon), white ceiling and off white walls. Not an ideal front projection environment to say the least.
I still went with a white screen instead of a gray one even though the black levels and contrast of the projector aren't quite there I personally feel the image is the better for it overall.
Next time around I hope to have a projector with lens shift and a greater zoom to go even bigger with the screen and center it better.
Additionally, the black felt frame does help with light spillage as others have stated.
post #1398 of 1663
Finally got my screen up. Went with the 110" Sable frame. Assembly wasn't too bad. About 2 hours from start to finish. (DEFINITELY glad I followed advice here and made sure wife was home to assist. Made it much easier.) Due to a furniture fiasco, my theater chairs which were SUPPOSED to be here and in place for the screen are M.I.A.- they shipped me the manual model instead of the power I ordered, so I am VERY patiently waiting for my new ones to arrive.

Quite happy with the screen- I am losing a little sleep in thinking I may have mounted too high. At this point, I'll wait on my chairs and watch a couple films before deciding wether it needs to come down a bit. (we have watched a couple of movies on the floor with throw pillows, and it was not uncomfortable. Time will tell...)

Shopping this week for blackout curtains- we have a set of french double doors at the rear of the room that only have blinds, so there is some ambient light during the day that definitely makes viewing less than ideal.

Couple of shots- 1 with lights on, 2nd after we got it up. For the curious, PJ is Epson 8350.



post #1399 of 1663
What screen material did you get?
td
post #1400 of 1663
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Originally Posted by tucsondave View Post

What screen material did you get?
td

I went with the CineWhite 1.1. Since we primarily use the room in the evenings, and I have decent light control even without the blackout curtains, it seemed the best choice.
post #1401 of 1663
The other advantage of mounting it lower is that light scattered to the ceiling will be less, as will the amount of light scattered back onto the screen (inverse square law). But really you probably want to have some dark material on the ceiling. I just ordered some ProtoStar flocked light trap material.
post #1402 of 1663
I'm considering the PowerMax Pro 91" motorised, but local SA distributors don't have stock, maybe only late March.
Does anyone here own one? Please give me your feedback on the screen. Thanks
post #1403 of 1663
So after having two 135" Elite manual screens replaced by Amazon I upgraded to the VMAX2 electric screen. It came slightly damaged but that's another story. The power cable requires extension to reach an outlet and I'm hoping to hide the cord and connection as much as possible. I thought I'd run the attached power cord across the back of the screen housing and join it with another cord so the connection lump will be hidden but I can't seem to locate a simple white indoor power cord that has a single female end. They mostly have a big three female end that requires a right angle connection and a resulting huge and obvious cord lump. For some reason the engineers at Elite provided a cord that is too short to reach a normally positioned wall outlet and that requires a connection that would occur in the middle of the wall to be seen by all.

What have people done to disguise the power cord and is there a resource to buy the type of extension cord that can simply lengthen the one I have now with one male and one female and that isn't heavy duty and industrial?
post #1404 of 1663
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Originally Posted by sarangiman View Post

The other advantage of mounting it lower is that light scattered to the ceiling will be less, as will the amount of light scattered back onto the screen (inverse square law). But really you probably want to have some dark material on the ceiling. I just ordered some ProtoStar flocked light trap material.

I definitely will consider that. Once my CORRECT seating arrives in the next month (they shipped me the wrong chairs), I'll sit down and watch a few films and make the final decision. I am a bit concerned with the screw holes from the original bracket location showing if I do lower the screen, but I guess I will cross that bridge when the time arrives.
post #1405 of 1663
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Originally Posted by MBRICHARD View Post

I definitely will consider that. Once my CORRECT seating arrives in the next month (they shipped me the wrong chairs), I'll sit down and watch a few films and make the final decision. I am a bit concerned with the screw holes from the original bracket location showing if I do lower the screen, but I guess I will cross that bridge when the time arrives.

DAP and paint, my friend smile.gif I had to do the same, as I'd originally mounted my CineWhite screen too high. Ended up going for a retro-reflective screen, smaller, lower in the end (I hate looking up; looking straight ahead is much more immersive). The CineWhite just had no contrast with all the room reflections.
post #1406 of 1663
I just bought a CineWhite Cinema235 fixed frame series screen, which I recently built and mounted. I am very pleased with the performance but I just noticed some very subtle 'striping' near the top left of the screen. I believe they call this a 'density coating' error. You can only really notice it on blue or grey sky backgrounds.

So, a) has anyone else experienced a density coating issue with a screen before, b) is it a common QC error and c), is this cause enough to request an RMA on the screen material from Elite Screens?
post #1407 of 1663
Is there a huge difference between the Cinewhite and the MAXwhite material as far as performance?
I am going to need a drop down screen but if the materials have similar performance, I do not see the need to spend hundreds more for the tensioned screen.
How do the non-tensioned screens perform?

Thanks!
Edited by bcarithers - 1/10/13 at 6:01pm
post #1408 of 1663
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Originally Posted by musicalfox View Post

I just bought a CineWhite Cinema235 fixed frame series screen, which I recently built and mounted. I am very pleased with the performance but I just noticed some very subtle 'striping' near the top left of the screen. I believe they call this a 'density coating' error. You can only really notice it on blue or grey sky backgrounds.

So, a) has anyone else experienced a density coating issue with a screen before, b) is it a common QC error and c), is this cause enough to request an RMA on the screen material from Elite Screens?

Could you please share some pics?
post #1409 of 1663
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Could you please share some pics?

Yes, cr, I will see if I can capture it over the weekend and will post back.
post #1410 of 1663
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Originally Posted by bcarithers View Post

Is there a huge difference between the Cinewhite and the MAXwhite material as far as performance?
I am going to need a drop down screen but if the materials have similar performance, I do not see the need to spend hundreds more for the tensioned screen.
How do the non-tensioned screens perform?

Thanks!

I bought a floor-rising 235 Kestrel. Beautiful product but the material just wouldn't go flat, so I returned it to Amazon and bought a fixed frame Elite from VAPEX instead. I know you are looking for a drop-down, but for home theater purposes I would veer towards a tensioned model. I suspect the non-tensioned screens are intended more for classrooms or boardrooms. It's no fun watching a movie with oscillating lines that are meant to be straight and the effect is particularly distracting when there are camera pans.

Max White appeared to have very similar properties to CineWhite, having recently experienced both, but I cannot back that up with empirical data.
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