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post #241 of 1663
stickyman how'd you make out? i am wondering if you were able to compare the defective screen with the new one, i think you will be the first to be able to compare the high contrast gray with the high tension white, what do you think? how does it look? do you see a difference in picture qaulity, contrast, vibrancy, and design of the case?
post #242 of 1663
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

stickyman how'd you make out? i am wondering if you were able to compare the defective screen with the new one, i think you will be the first to be able to compare the high contrast gray with the high tension white, what do you think? how does it look? do you see a difference in picture qaulity, contrast, vibrancy, and design of the case?

hi david, i didn't get a high tension white screen, and i only got one high contrast gray screen, so i really can't say... i do have a small screen sample of the matte white. my only comment so far is that i do have to up the contrast, brightness and color settings to make the image brighter and more vibrant. i have not had a chance to do a full calibration... DVE is a pain to work through... the dialogue is slow and hardly ever relevant to LCD projectors..
post #243 of 1663
drcarr, i took better measurements yesterday. the screen has the correct width (80 inches, but the height is 1/4 inch too tall (measured 45.25"). not sure if i will take down the screen and send it back for 1/4 inch, there would be the risk that i would get an even worse screen... plus the hassle of applying for tax refund on the exchange (i live up in canada)...
post #244 of 1663
interesting... i'm keeping my fingers crossed for the 2nd one.
post #245 of 1663
I'm giving up on Elite VMAX. I was informed that the top mask on all the screens which the techs checked was 10" (rather than the specified 18"). I'm sure I could safely adjust the last screen I received to get 10" but that's not adequate for my application. This perhaps suggests that the VMAX may be evolving in the direction of the cheaper Spectrum series which has a 10" drop.

I really wish the Model C would have worked but four attempts at getting the correct size is enough. As I said earlier, QC is obviously a VERY SERIOUS issue here.
post #246 of 1663
Has anybody tried their High Gain White screen material? I'm assuming that the viewing cone must reduce significantly which would be bad for my high mounted projector and wide seating area, but at 1.5 gain it might not be bad. I think I've decided that I'm going to try the Cinetension, but with my Epson TW1000 I cant figure out what material I want. Anybody with any input?

----moe
post #247 of 1663
The cinetension screen is at the top of my list mostly for the cost but I need a cleaner installation. Has anyone found a case or similar that will allow for recessed ceiling mount with a paintable door that is closed when the screen is raised?
post #248 of 1663
Does anyone know if the top mask on the cinetensions 10" or 18" ??
post #249 of 1663
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Originally Posted by bri1270 View Post

Does anyone know if the top mask on the cinetensions 10" or 18" ??

the TE92HC2 has a maximum top mask of 10", comes set to about 5.5" (which i have not adjusted yet), not sure if there would be a different mask height for the matte white or high gain white and the different sizes. originally i was looking for 18" as well, but my wife actually likes it where it is right now, and has no problems with the screen at the current height, i think i would prefer to have it down a few inches. you have to keep in mind it's 10" mask + case height which is about 4" i think, and the hanging L brackets adds another couple of inches. my ceiling is only 8 feet though.
post #250 of 1663
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Originally Posted by bri1270 View Post

Does anyone know if the top mask on the cinetensions 10" or 18" ??

I have the 84" cinetension in the matte white, and the max drop is 18". It comes set quite a bit higher, and it takes quite a few turns on the adjusment to get it down. Mine is set to about 13" of drop.
post #251 of 1663
So I replaced my 106" manual Draper Luma with a 108" Elite home series electric screen. I managed to get the drop adjusted just right but I can't get my MX500 remote to learn from the Elite remote. Has anyone had any luck learning from these things?!?
post #252 of 1663
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Originally Posted by oscardeuce View Post

I have the 84" cinetension in the matte white, and the max drop is 18". It comes set quite a bit higher, and it takes quite a few turns on the adjusment to get it down. Mine is set to about 13" of drop.

hi oscardeuce which generation cinetension do you have? the TE92HC2 (the "2" that follows the model number, which indicates it's a gen 3, since the first gen had no number following the model number at all) has a 10 inch mask limit... at least that's what the elite customer service guy told me, again i'm not sure if this applies to other screen materials and if it's dependent on screen size.
post #253 of 1663
Thanks guys
post #254 of 1663
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Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

So I replaced my 106" manual Draper Luma with a 108" Elite home series electric screen. I managed to get the drop adjusted just right but I can't get my MX500 remote to learn from the Elite remote. Has anyone had any luck learning from these things?!?

SUCCESS!!!
I figured out a workaround. I dug out an old One For All brand learning remote out of the back of a drawer remembering that instead of just confirming the signal, this thing gives you a "success" or "failed" message when learning from another remote. It took about 30-50 attempts for each of the 3 buttons using various techniques, but I was finally able to learn the up/down/stop buttons into the One For All remote. It was then easy to learn the codes from the One For All to my MX500 (all 3 worked on a single try). The interesting part is what is now being output from my 2 universal remotes is what should have been originally coming from Elite's remote. Not only do these work every time on the screen, they can be learned to any learning remote now.
post #255 of 1663
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Originally Posted by stickyman View Post

hi oscardeuce which generation cinetension do you have? the TE92HC2 (the "2" that follows the model number, which indicates it's a gen 3, since the first gen had no number following the model number at all) has a 10 inch mask limit... at least that's what the elite customer service guy told me, again i'm not sure if this applies to other screen materials and if it's dependent on screen size.

I think mine is the 2nd generation screen. I picked it up from their warehouse the beginning of February. I have the matte white, not the high contrast.
post #256 of 1663
how do you mount the elite ez frame to the wall? i see the brackets but i read that its easily adjustable, but cant figure out how to adjust it once you screw the mounting plates to the wall. can someone help me out?
post #257 of 1663
I ordered the R106WH1 ezFrame screen from TigerDirect on February 25 and have been told over and over that it will be shipping from the manufacturer at the end of March. Today I get a phone call that says it will not be shipping and that the tension white material is no longer available. They would have to cancel my order or ship me gray instead. Needless to say, I am very frustrated that TigerDirect took over a month for them to notify me that the screen will not ship. Does anybody know of a reseller who has the R106WH1 in stock or know why TigerDirect will not ship the tension white?
post #258 of 1663
Has anyone seen the Elite SilverFrame screen in action?
Is it comparable to the EZFrame?
Any reasons not to go with the SilverFrame?

Thanks!
post #259 of 1663
well i finally recieved my 120" cinetension 16:9 in matte white. this was a replacement for a defective screen i recieved about a month ago. elite was very easy to work with and gave me absolutely no hassels in exchanging the screen for a newer model.

the newer screen is a version 3 screen denoted with a "2" at the end of the model number.

the screen and casing is higher quality compared with the previous one that i had recieved. i mounted it into the ceiling and everything works flawlessly. blacks are black and colors pop with great clarity.

although it took 2 tries and about 6 weeks... i could not be happier.

it's paired with a panny ax100u and an oppo dvd player.
post #260 of 1663
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom99 View Post

Can anyone who has the cinetension screen confirm the total black drop? Elite's website states that it's 16", but I've read elsewhere that it's 18".

Also with the case being 7" tall, is the top of the viewable part of the screen from the ceiling 7" plus the total black drop of 16" or 18"? Ideally, I'm looking for the viewable part of the screen to be about 25" from the ceiling as I'll be ceiling mounting the screen.

If I can get 25" with the black drop and the case height, then I'm set.

Thanks for your info.


My Elite Screens spreadsheet indicates that the Cinetension models' black drop is 18"...that's a 6" drop plus 12" inside the roller.

Eric
post #261 of 1663
Elite Screens announced their new "Custom Installation" division yesterday...among the new products that will be exclusive the the "CI" dealers is a multiple aspect ratio masking system that can be attached to a fixed screen.

No availability ("soon") or pricing info as yet...

Eric
post #262 of 1663
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Originally Posted by stopdog View Post

Thanks stickyman. They did get back to me. 2.35:1 Cinetension is not available at this time.

I think that their upcoming "CI" product line may have electric 'scope screens...

Eric
post #263 of 1663
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Originally Posted by egcarter View Post

My Elite Screens spreadsheet indicates that the Cinetension models' black drop is 18"...that's a 6" drop plus 12" inside the roller.

Eric

I can pretty much confirm this since I needed for my setup...
post #264 of 1663
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Originally Posted by drcarr View Post

well i finally recieved my 120" cinetension 16:9 in matte white. this was a replacement for a defective screen i recieved about a month ago. elite was very easy to work with and gave me absolutely no hassels in exchanging the screen for a newer model.

the newer screen is a version 3 screen denoted with a "2" at the end of the model number.

the screen and casing is higher quality compared with the previous one that i had recieved. i mounted it into the ceiling and everything works flawlessly. blacks are black and colors pop with great clarity.

although it took 2 tries and about 6 weeks... i could not be happier.

it's paired with a panny ax100u and an oppo dvd player.

drcarr,

Any chance you could tell us what the viewing angle is like and how much ambient light is present in your room? Are you getting any hot spots? Thanks!

I am looking at this one and the high gain white and am not sure which one to go with.
post #265 of 1663
not sure what elite says the actual specs are on viewing angles but mine seems great. my room is about 17' wide by 22' long. the pq change from side to side is minimal if at all. most viewing is done from about 16-17' from the screen. i am using 95% for SD movies and watching in complete darkness. i have tan/greenish walls and a white cieling with brown ceramic tile floor. the blacks are black and the colors pop. no hot spots that i can see on the screen. very pleased here...
post #266 of 1663
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Originally Posted by drcarr View Post

well i finally recieved my 120" cinetension 16:9 in matte white. this was a replacement for a defective screen i recieved about a month ago. elite was very easy to work with and gave me absolutely no hassels in exchanging the screen for a newer model.

the newer screen is a version 3 screen denoted with a "2" at the end of the model number.

the screen and casing is higher quality compared with the previous one that i had recieved. i mounted it into the ceiling and everything works flawlessly. blacks are black and colors pop with great clarity.

although it took 2 tries and about 6 weeks... i could not be happier.

it's paired with a panny ax100u and an oppo dvd player.

drcarr, glad things worked out for you. i assume that the dimensions of your screen are fine and you have no issues of the screen being higher on one side?
post #267 of 1663
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Originally Posted by drcarr View Post

not sure what elite says the actual specs are on viewing angles but mine seems great. my room is about 17' wide by 22' long. the pq change from side to side is minimal if at all. most viewing is done from about 16-17' from the screen. i am using 95% for SD movies and watching in complete darkness. i have tan/greenish walls and a white cieling with brown ceramic tile floor. the blacks are black and the colors pop. no hot spots that i can see on the screen. very pleased here...

Thank you for the feedback as it was most helpful. If only you had a bit of ambient light in your room and it would be almost a complete reproduction of my room.

At night when I would use it most, I can get total darkness. It's the daytime use that I am concerned with when deciding on the matte white or the high gain white.

Anyone have any experience with the high gain white in the cinetension line?
post #268 of 1663
edg,
it seems to me, from my limited HT knowlege, that if you are most concerned about ambient light you should be deciding between high contrast gray vs. white... not high gain white.

sticky,
the dimensions on the screen are correct and it sits level, left to right.

SD movies look awesome.
post #269 of 1663
from my limited knowledge of ht, I would agree with you. However, Elite's literature states that the Matte White is for moderately controlled ambient and the high contrast gray is for "controlled" ambient light. My understanding (admittedly I could be wrong) was that the high contrast greys such as the Optoma Greywolf were better for rooms where ambient light was only moderately controlled which is opposite of what Elite states in their literature for their screens. I was also under the impression that high gain screens were better for rooms where ambient light could be an issue.

If anyone could clarify this, it would be greatly appreciated.
post #270 of 1663
I'm thinking of getting an ez-Manual Pull Down screen. Anyone with this screen that can comment on its quality?
-Any hotspotting or waves?
-Does it stay fairly flat?
-Does the screen material show on bright scenes?
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