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post #961 of 1510
3/7/10 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by One on one View Post

I recently purchased a 92" Elite Cine Tension 2 screen. It is incredible. It's the first screen that I've owned, and I'm really thrilled with it. It was double boxed with plenty of foam packing inside. I installed it and it worked perfectly. The only issue that I've had is that a remote for my receiver would lower the screen. I've since had to replace that receiver because it was losing the center channel sound, so that is not an issue any more.

I highly recommend this screen to any one. In the photo is a yellow 12" ruler on the chess table for scale.

what projector are you using?
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post #962 of 1510
3/7/10 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Well here is Elite story so that you may weight this before making a purchase.

I started out looked for a motorized screen for my Epson 8100. Elite made the most economical sense. First I looked at the VMax2 but saw all the problems people had with waves, wrinkles, ect. So I ordered at the home2 series, which advertises a fiberglass backing to keep it flat. It was anything but flat. In an earlier post in this thread are attached pictures of that mess.

So I returned it for a cinetension, having gone up to $750 and over my original planned budget by almost $500. But I figured if it's flat, it will be worth it down the road.

My cinetension arrived and It looked pretty good, very flat with only a small wrinkle in the bottom right that would even out after about 5 minutes. All seemed well until I tried to center an image on it. I tried everything but I just could not get it to fill the screen without over-spill. I decided to measure the screen and found the dimensions to be incorrect. 48.5" high on one side closer to 49 on the other and the width was 87.5". There was also a slight skew due to a 1/8" error in the masking across the top. (A 100" diagonal screen is 49" by 87")

So I contacted the reseller who not only agreed to exchange it without charging me for the immediate shipping of a new screen before the old one was returned....But they even went so far as to conference Elite into out conversation. Elite was going to pull out some screens from the warehouse, measure and check them to assure it was right, and then ship it to me.

Well I got the "checked" screen and it was even worse. Now the dimensions were correct, but there were horizontal stripes running across the screen. They were about 3" thick each and spaced evenly at about every 5 inches, 5 total. They were actually indentations pressed into the material. It looks like impressions from the roller stretching the material too tightly. That would explain why the stripes run the entire width and are so evenly spaced and the same exact thickness each.

How in the world they didn't see this is beyond me. I decided I will keep the original cinetension. At least it is flat. I can over shoot the image just a bit and live with that. I can't fault the reseller, they went the extra mile to make it right. I can only say that buying an elite motorized screen is risky. But it's a tough place to be because the price difference between there tensioned screens and models from Draper and Da-lite are huge. Those cost more than my PJ. While Elite may be an economical solution, $750 is NOT cheap, nor is it an excuse for such poor quality control....especially since they were supposed to have double checked this one.

Just info for those considering Elite

Just set my 120" cinetension2 up last night and am experiencing the same thing. My top black drop/masking is not even and comes farther down towards the middle of the screen which makes it look bowed at the top. I haven't measured all sides yet to see if more are uneven but the top is. The only way I could fill the screen was to have some overspill. I'm a perfectionist and knowing it's like that bugs me but I may try to just live with it. I don't wanna end up like some and go through 3 or more exchanges, especially if the replacement had more problems. Everything else appears good except for the lower left part of the metal on the the very bottom of screen looks like some spots had the black scratched off somehow as the spots are silver. I guess I could try to use a black marker to cover it.
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post #963 of 1510
3/8/10 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by lennyd View Post

Reading this would make it seem like Elite isn't responsive, but my experience has been spectacular. I received a Cinetension 3 screen for a customer and installed it. After installation we noticed the top edge of the screen where the black 'mask' met the white viewing surface was lower in the middle then on the outer edges. It wasn't a straight line across the top. It only was maybe 1/2" lower in the middle but had the effect of causing the whole rectangular viewing surface to apprear not right because of the uneven top. One call to customer support had a replacement on its way to us. No hassles. They said it should be square (agreed!) and was a defective unit.

I can tell you that is how a company should be and my experience has been great. The shipping box the Cinetension came in was superior and well protected by foam support and heavy duty cardboard. Each of the included hangers, anchors, remotes, triggers etc seem very well made. The operation is silent as well. This is the second Cinetension we've installed so far and I'd highly recommend them. If your looking for a motorized screen on a budget, you just can't go wrong.

This is EXACTLY the problem I have just posted about! At first I thought I could make do but after some more viewing last night I think I'm gonna have to request a replacement. Since it's impossible to get the image to fit without making it spill over into the black parts, on some scenes the overspill is distracting. Also, it just makes the screen look not so good when looking straight on as you can see the top bows down badly and isn't uniform.
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post #964 of 1510
3/10/10 at 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by kicks View Post

what projector are you using?

Sorry for the slow response.
I purchased the Epson 8100. Really like it a lot. I had gone back and forth between the Epson and the Panasonic Ae400. but decided that I would go with the company that had extraordinary customer service.

This system is my first projector and screen. I couldn't be happier with my choices.
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post #965 of 1510
3/11/10 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by One on one View Post

Sorry for the slow response.
I purchased the Epson 8100. Really like it a lot. I had gone back and forth between the Epson and the Panasonic Ae400. but decided that I would go with the company that had extraordinary customer service.

This system is my first projector and screen. I couldn't be happier with my choices.

Hey I have the same projector and i'm getting ready to buy the cinetension 2 92". This will also be my first projector and screen and I was just curious how does the projector/screen combo perform in ambient light for you and how much throw do u have?
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post #966 of 1510
3/11/10 at 5:22pm
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Originally Posted by Sornom View Post

Hey I have the same projector and i'm getting ready to buy the cinetension 2 92". This will also be my first projector and screen and I was just curious how does the projector/screen combo perform in ambient light for you and how much throw do u have?

I have around 14 feet from projector to screen. To really enjoy movies it is best for the room to be as dark as possible. That goes without saying. We watched some of the Olympics with lights on in the room and the image was very good. I've got the projector set to the econo mode and with ambient light I'm usually in the Natural setting. Plenty of horsepower there. indirect ambient light isn't a problem. The only issues that I have are at night if the curtains aren't closed all the way, I get light from the lamp post shining onto the screen and that degrades the picture.

You will be very happy with your screen. Installation is a breeze. Elite even give you a small bubble level to use during installation.
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post #967 of 1510
3/22/10 at 10:35am
Does anyone have the Elite "Max White" 1.1 gain screen material? How do you like it? I was thinking of buying the M120UWH2 for the material, to put on my own frame. Is the material smooth or textured? Is it pliable enough to get tight enough on a wooden frame? Thanks.
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post #968 of 1510
3/22/10 at 5:09pm
Does anyone knows where to get an Elite SilverFrame in High Gain 1.8, larger sizes (>100). I was able to find a 100, but not larger. I have seem good reviews on this one and may want to pursue it. Any owners of this screen that may want to coment also on its performance.

Thks
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post #969 of 1510
3/22/10 at 10:50pm
Just wanted to say that I have received replacement screen material for my 106" Elite Eazy Frame Screen. In my previous post all issues I had complained about have been resolved with the new material. This time the back side is black material and had a manufacture date of Jan 06.
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post #970 of 1510
3/23/10 at 4:33pm
Just was on Elite screens web site and ran in to a new 2.35 curved fixed screen called the Lunette series and I didn't see any mention of it on the forums or any online sellers yet. You can see it here: http://www.elitescreens.com/index.ph...mid=20&lang=en .

Looks like it will be offered in Acousticpro1080 and Cinewhite. How does the Acousticpro compare to some of the better acoustically transparent screen fabrics out there? Is it more susceptible to possible moire effects than say some higher end materials? Otherwise, I'm sure this will be quite a good value.
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post #971 of 1510
3/24/10 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

Does anyone knows where to get an Elite SilverFrame in High Gain 1.8, larger sizes (>100). I was able to find a 100, but not larger. I have seem good reviews on this one and may want to pursue it. Any owners of this screen that may want to coment also on its performance.

Thks

Anyone with this screen on this thread that wants to comment on its performance/PQ...where to get it?????/
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post #972 of 1510
3/24/10 at 3:31pm
Would the image fill the screen the same with a curved screen?
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post #973 of 1510
3/24/10 at 7:25pm
It just went up last Saturday. The projector is the Epson 8100. I have yet to tune it in, but have been too busy watching

I have a couple waves that run from the top right side to about the middle on the low side. While they are slightly annoying, I think that they can easily be tuned out. I am first trying to contact Elite, as their directions say to do so to tune it, and I really don't feel like voiding the warranty just yet.

It seems I am a fortunate one, in that I have an almost pixel perfect screen as far as dimensions, and have the proj tuned to fill the while up just about as perfect as one could hope. It took a little messing and putzing with the projector angle/mount/etc, but that part of it is done and could not be happier. If I could get the waves tuned out with help (or eventually without their help if they don't respond) then the only thing left is making the room look a little more like a theater.

The strings on the sides are fairly loose, and only get a little tight when the screen is all the way down. They do not seem to be pulling on the screen much, so I am guessing a little more tension is due, but would hate to find out less tension is what was needed or such as this is my first tension screen.

The camera is a cell phone, so not of the best quality, but you get the idea.
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post #974 of 1510
3/27/10 at 8:42pm
Please help! My Elite Screens motorized 100" has always worked fine, had it for a couple years. I had to take down the projector for a while (couple months) and so I raised the screen and left it for a while thinking that was the safe thing to do. When I came back in town went to lower the screen. I picked up the Elite Screen Remote to find the IR light indicator on and it was flashing red rapidly and repeatedly without stop. I replaced the batteries with new ones...same thing. It will not stop flashing, as if a button were stuck, but none of them are! The worst part about this is that now my Elite Screen will not lower, or raise, or do anything for that matter. I have it plugged in and I know it used to work flawlessly. Thinking it may be the remote, I grabbed my Harmony 680 and programed the Elite Screen into it. When I push raise or lower on that remote, still nothing happens. When I come right up to the IR sensor on the screen housing, I can see the light within it signaling with each push of either remote, so it is almost as if it is receiving each IR signal but just not responding. I have a huge wedding party coming up in a week and this screen was to be a major focal point. Anyone encounter this before or have any ideas?

I also was desperate enough to try creating a 12v trigger cable out of an old 1/8 inch cable and a CAT 5. I rigged it to my projector and tried firing it and nothing happened. I don't know if this is a related problem or I just created the cable wrong. To make the cable, I cut the 1/8 inch jack and exposed the two wires within, I then hacked up a CAT 5 cable and exposed two of those cables and connected them to the to exposed 1/8" wires. Is this how you even do it? I didn't know if it had to be connected to specific colors onto the CAT 5 end.

At this point, I'm just trying to get the damn viewing screen down and out and I can leave it lowered indefinitely.

Any thoughts?
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post #975 of 1510
3/27/10 at 10:03pm
You don't have direct UP/DOWN button on the screen controller? That's mine from my VMAX100


Or do you have an RF remote also to try?

How long have you left it unplug from wall? Try hours maybe?
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post #976 of 1510
3/28/10 at 10:51am
No I don't have that hard switch like you do. Wish I did but mine only came with the RF remote and I can also use my Harmony remote but neither of them work.
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post #977 of 1510
3/30/10 at 11:40am
Anyone get the fixed frame from Costco? Looking at a 100" screen fixed. I have read alot on this topic and see that some have ordered from costco. Do these have the lining on the back if you did order one?

-Art
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post #978 of 1510
3/30/10 at 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by zaz1080p View Post

Please help! My Elite Screens motorized 100" has always worked fine, had it for a couple years. I had to take down the projector for a while (couple months) and so I raised the screen and left it for a while thinking that was the safe thing to do. When I came back in town went to lower the screen. I picked up the Elite Screen Remote to find the IR light indicator on and it was flashing red rapidly and repeatedly without stop. I replaced the batteries with new ones...same thing. It will not stop flashing, as if a button were stuck, but none of them are! The worst part about this is that now my Elite Screen will not lower, or raise, or do anything for that matter. I have it plugged in and I know it used to work flawlessly. Thinking it may be the remote, I grabbed my Harmony 680 and programed the Elite Screen into it. When I push raise or lower on that remote, still nothing happens. When I come right up to the IR sensor on the screen housing, I can see the light within it signaling with each push of either remote, so it is almost as if it is receiving each IR signal but just not responding. I have a huge wedding party coming up in a week and this screen was to be a major focal point. Anyone encounter this before or have any ideas?

I also was desperate enough to try creating a 12v trigger cable out of an old 1/8 inch cable and a CAT 5. I rigged it to my projector and tried firing it and nothing happened. I don't know if this is a related problem or I just created the cable wrong. To make the cable, I cut the 1/8 inch jack and exposed the two wires within, I then hacked up a CAT 5 cable and exposed two of those cables and connected them to the to exposed 1/8" wires. Is this how you even do it? I didn't know if it had to be connected to specific colors onto the CAT 5 end.

At this point, I'm just trying to get the damn viewing screen down and out and I can leave it lowered indefinitely.

Any thoughts?

Just thought I'd give you guys an update to my situation. I finally got in touch with Elite Screens tech services. They indicated it was a fried circuit board. My screen is a little over 2 years old so it is not covered under warranty. I was advised the part is user-installable but would run me $100. Since that is nearly half the price of the screen, I will not be paying that. As for my solution, I decided to pull the motorized screen out by force. This was a little tough, and required the help of my wife and daughter, but at least now, the screen is out and remounted to the wall, however, unable to retract and thus defeating the purpose of a motorized screen. It is also showing some waves which certainly weren't helped by yanking on it.

For the price, I still think the Elite screen was a good value for an entry level, Walmart'esc type screen, however, I will never purchase their products again, and in my professional opinion as a large venue video projectionist, I would advise against it to others considering purchasing from them.

Cheers....
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post #979 of 1510
4/8/10 at 6:25am
Hi
I have a VMAX120 with the acoustiuc pro fabric and I have terrible Moiré issue with a Mitsu HC4900.

I understand that the Moire is a non compatibility between the Screen Mesh and the LCD mesh but lets's say I am inclined to hcnage the projector, is someone experiencing no Moiré issue with one of the latest projector:
Sanyo plv z4000
LG cf181d
Panasonic AE4000
Optoma HD82

The other thing that annoys me is the fact I can still ''see'' the mesh from where I stand... Not extremely noticable but still annoying...especially on white images...

Thx
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post #980 of 1510
4/13/10 at 9:22pm
I am planning to consider tripod series projector screen from elite. Screen size is 120" (diag) 16:9 [Model: T120UWH]

My concern is, is tripod sturdy enough to hold such a big screen. Any issues to be aware of. How easy is it to pullup / setup.

Thanks in advance
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post #981 of 1510
4/14/10 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

Does anyone knows where to get an Elite SilverFrame in High Gain 1.8, larger sizes (>100). I was able to find a 100, but not larger. I have seem good reviews on this one and may want to pursue it. Any owners of this screen that may want to coment also on its performance.

Thks

Anyone with an Elite SilverFrame High Gain wish to provide an evaluation?
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post #982 of 1510
4/16/10 at 7:28pm
I purchased both the Elite Silverscreen 1.8 in 120" and a Elite 0white screen pull down 120" for use on my Mit 5500. I chose the 1.8 and sold my white screen. Since I am only a beginner I can't make much of a comment about the performance other than I liked the 1.8 better, side by side. I have dark walls, ceiling, carpet, and the projector about 13' from the screen. Viewing distance is about 12'. Love the big screen. We typically watch movies and some sports. Only problem is the room is too small. Some light spills over on one side wall and it bugs me a little. The wife doesn't notice it... I also compared 1' Da-Lite samples, HP, HCMW, HCCV, matte white, and Video Spectra. My second choice was HCCV. Heck I kept changing my mind, they were close....Elite support suggested i would get better blacks, over white, with the 1.8 because of the slight gray in the screen. I don't notice any hot spotting or grain on the screen. Maybe my eyes are just bad, but I can say I chose this screen because I liked it better than the others. Good luck.
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post #983 of 1510
4/18/10 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by footfault View Post

I purchased both the Elite Silverscreen 1.8 in 120" and a Elite 0white screen pull down 120" for use on my Mit 5500. I chose the 1.8 and sold my white screen. Since I am only a beginner I can't make much of a comment about the performance other than I liked the 1.8 better, side by side. I have dark walls, ceiling, carpet, and the projector about 13' from the screen. Viewing distance is about 12'. Love the big screen. We typically watch movies and some sports. Only problem is the room is too small. Some light spills over on one side wall and it bugs me a little. The wife doesn't notice it... I also compared 1' Da-Lite samples, HP, HCMW, HCCV, matte white, and Video Spectra. My second choice was HCCV. Heck I kept changing my mind, they were close....Elite support suggested i would get better blacks, over white, with the 1.8 because of the slight gray in the screen. I don't notice any hot spotting or grain on the screen. Maybe my eyes are just bad, but I can say I chose this screen because I liked it better than the others. Good luck.

Thks for your input. I am no expert either. Just trying to get input from actual users to make my mind. Its good that you have not noticed any hot spottig or grain. That's a concern that I had after reading this review;

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...-review-2.html

Granted, he mentions that the grain was mostly visible in white scenes, like in a hocky game. Are you able to test it under those types of scenes and let me know? I will appreciate that if you can....

thanks again,

What is HCCV?
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post #984 of 1510
4/18/10 at 7:00pm
I bought a new 92" Elite Cinetension2. I have a Epson 8100.

I want to create a 12 trigger.

I took a 3.5 headphone jack and cut it and attached each wire to a 22g security system wire and then attached that to the ethernet type plug for the 12v trigger that comes with the screen.

Projector trigger set to "ON". Cycled the power and then...nothing.

The screen doesnt react to the power trigger.

Is there a minimum gauge the wire must be to work?
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post #985 of 1510
4/26/10 at 1:14pm
VMAX2 150" electric is being delivered tomorrow, and I just stumbled upon this thread... After reading just the last few pages, I am afraid, I am very afraid...
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post #986 of 1510
4/26/10 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by Hertz View Post

VMAX2 150" electric is being delivered tomorrow, and I just stumbled upon this thread... After reading just the last few pages, I am afraid, I am very afraid...

I have the Elite Screens VMAX2 Electric projection Screen, 16:9 Aspect Ratio-150in (Max White). Mine turned out alright, I love it.
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post #987 of 1510
4/28/10 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by GLISSOUILLE View Post

Hi
I have a VMAX120 with the acoustiuc pro fabric and I have terrible Moiré issue with a Mitsu HC4900.

I understand that the Moire is a non compatibility between the Screen Mesh and the LCD mesh but lets's say I am inclined to hcnage the projector, is someone experiencing no Moiré issue with one of the latest projector:
Sanyo plv z4000
LG cf181d
Panasonic AE4000
Optoma HD82

The other thing that annoys me is the fact I can still ''see'' the mesh from where I stand... Not extremely noticable but still annoying...especially on white images...

Thx

Oh this moire thing has me a little scared, I really want to go cinemascope with a future anamorphic lens purchase and every penny I save going with the Lunette series with the AcousticPro1080 is one more penny I can toss at that lens. I'm running an RS20 and that would reduce visible pixel structure and help some with moire but I would love to hear more opinions or experiences. It looks like such a great value, but if the moire problems make it unwatchable its a deal breaker. I could probably go to a DIY fixed frame with a better fabric and be roughly out the same ball park cost but I'm a little nervous about venturing down that route on my own.
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post #988 of 1510
5/2/10 at 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by DrNegative View Post

I have the Elite Screens VMAX2 Electric projection Screen, 16:9 Aspect Ratio-150in (Max White). Mine turned out alright, I love it.

I got the same exact screen.

Well, as far as waviness...it is pretty much ok. Just a little bit of waviness bottom middle of the screen, but only on pure white images--not something you distracting in viewing.

BUT, there is a long, black cord hanging out from inside the screen, blocking the image and preventing the screen from retracting. If you try to retract the screen it pulls the cord in with it and makes a grinding noise. Not good...
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post #989 of 1510
5/3/10 at 8:55pm
I bought an Epson 8500UB and am eyeing the Elite R100H -- can't decide if I'd be better off with CineWhite or CineGrey. The screen will be in my basement which gets some ambient light, but not a lot. The grey seems to display better blacks and contrast...

Anyway, any feedback/advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm a newbie to the projection world.

Thanks!!

Ken
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post #990 of 1510
5/5/10 at 8:27am
I'm getting an Epson hc 8100, and am thinking about getting an elite AcousticPro1080 110''.

It'll be in my living room so, there is ambient light. I have 4 back doors(which will be to the left of the screen) which have shades that block out the light. some light does however escape onto the wall where my screen will be, I think I have a solution for this to redirect the light back.

So I guess my question is will this screen do the job for the projector I'm getting and the setup I've described?
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