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post #2191 of 2211
Okay I've read a little more and see that its not uncommon to have problems with the contrast setup. I guess its best to just set it where it looks right when watching the tv.
post #2192 of 2211
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Originally Posted by emergant View Post

Okay I've read a little more and see that its not uncommon to have problems with the contrast setup. I guess its best to just set it where it looks right when watching the tv.

Not the best method.

Using the GetGray disc, to set brightness, use the brightness pattern (the dark pattern). Raise/lower the brightness control until the bar on the right (the darkest bar) just disappears.

To set contrast, use the contrast pattern (the white pattern). Raise/lower the contrast control until the bar on the right (the whitest bar) just disappears.

If you put contrast at max and you can still see all three bars, check to see what your disc player is outputting. Sometimes there are settings in a DVD player that affects the white and black levels.

BTW, are you using a Blu-ray player? if you are, you should use the AVSHD disk available for free in this forum. The patterns on it are excellent.
post #2193 of 2211
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Originally Posted by emergant View Post

Okay I've read a little more and see that its not uncommon to have problems with the contrast setup. I guess its best to just set it where it looks right when watching the tv.

I found this article extremely helpful:

http://www.spearsandmunsil.com/artic...stcontrol.html
post #2194 of 2211
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Originally Posted by emergant View Post

Yes, I set black level with brightness. I then used the white level graph and ran the contrast from min to max and back but The last two bars on the right remained visible. I ended up just putting some tv on and setting the contrast by eye. It would be nice to figure it out though.

This is common with later model TVs. Just set contrast for
maximum you want and it doesn't give you eye strain.
post #2195 of 2211
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Originally Posted by rahull View Post

This is common with later model TVs. Just set contrast for
maximum you want and it doesn't give you eye strain.

Thanks, thats the conclusion I'd come to. Initially I thought I was missing something but upon further reading it became clear that with this TV there isnt going to be a simple answer without proper meters etc and thats further than I want to go
post #2196 of 2211
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Originally Posted by PE06MCG View Post

I found this article extremely helpful:

http://www.spearsandmunsil.com/artic...stcontrol.html

Interesting link. Thanks but it doesnt really apply to my tv it seems. It doesnt clip.
post #2197 of 2211
Well, while Im on a hunt. Can anyone confirm whether the GetGray disc Window Patterns are smaller, the same size, or larger than windows on the AVS709 disc?

Thanks.
post #2198 of 2211
Thread Starter 
You can see the patterns on the GetGray DVD at www.calibrate.tv
post #2199 of 2211
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

Well, while Im on a hunt. Can anyone confirm whether the GetGray disc Window Patterns are smaller, the same size, or larger than windows on the AVS709 disc?

Thanks.

If you scroll down to the "Downloads" section of www.calibrate.tv, you can examine the patterns in the "Patterns and menu'" link. There are both 100% (full field) and 75% windows patterns (in the "Color Patterns" menu section). Examples of both are shown.

NOTE: The color patterns are rendered to the SD DVD standards (Rec. 601). They will be shown correctly (color accuracy) from a BD player, only if the player correctly translates Rec. 601 to the Blu-Ray Rec. 709 color standards (see below).

The Instructions are also freely down-loadable, as "GetGrayCalDiscReadme.zip" (I wrote them, with editorial help from Scott).

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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

You can see the patterns on the GetGray DVD at www.calibrate.tv.

Hi Scott, I'm glad to see that this thread still has legs. I'm still using your CalDisc for grayscale calibration. I haven't found any other calibration SW that is easier, or more accurate.

BTW, for others reading this thread, the grayscale calibration settings (and standards) are the same for both standard definition DVDs and Blu-Ray discs. Only the color standards have changed (Rec. 601 for DVDs and Rec. 709 for BDs)
post #2200 of 2211
Thread Starter 
Hi Claus! Very good too "see" you too. Hope you are very well. re the thread still going, I know. But it's recommended and used in ISF classes all over the world for just the reasons you mention. And to ensure the colors are right for SD material/conversions, etc. I can tell where they have classes becasue we will have spurts of discs going to ths same area. What has been facinating is all the places in the world it is used. It's gone to places that I didn't know they had people, much less TV's Fun to see where people are from who use it. Proud of our work.
post #2201 of 2211
I actually read all that documentation that came with the GetGrey download, and it suggested I bump this thread with info on where I heard about the GetGrey DVD.

I just completed a one day Spectracal Calman training class, wherein it was recommended to obtain GetGrey for DVD and Spears and Munsil for Blu Ray. I'm looking forward to calibrating all my friends' and families' TVs when I travel for the holidays. They'll have to be happy with their DVD and Blu Ray calibrations, as I've yet to purchase a signal generator.
post #2202 of 2211
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Originally Posted by ZandarKoad View Post

I just completed a one day Spectracal Calman training class, wherein it was recommended to obtain GetGrey for DVD and Spears and Munsil for Blu Ray. I'm looking forward to calibrating all my friends' and families' TVs when I travel for the holidays.

For HD Rec. 709 Calibrations you will need the AVSHD Disk because the Spears & Munsil Blu-Ray don't have any pattern to use with a meter, Grayscale or CMS.
post #2203 of 2211
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Originally Posted by ConnecTEDDD View Post

For HD Rec. 709 Calibrations you will need the AVSHD Disk because the Spears & Munsil Blu-Ray don't have any pattern to use with a meter, Grayscale or CMS.

Care to link me to a Blue Ray copy of that?
post #2204 of 2211
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Care to link me to a Blue Ray copy of that?

AVS HD 709 - Blu-ray & MP4 Calibration
post #2205 of 2211
I'm kinda lost in this forum, and I just have one question: What is the best calibration disc?
post #2206 of 2211
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I'm kinda lost in this forum, and I just have one question: What is the best calibration disc?

For a beginner either Digital Video Essentials or Disney WoW would be a good place to start.
post #2207 of 2211
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For a beginner either Digital Video Essentials or Disney WoW would be a good place to start.

Thanks.

Will the AVS HD 709 do, since it's free, or is it too difficult?
post #2208 of 2211
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Originally Posted by Grahut View Post

Thanks.

Will the AVS HD 709 do, since it's free, or is it too difficult?

I used the AVS HD709 disc as my first calibration disc and there is definitely a learning curve but it's worth it. Just take your time, write your initial settings down before calibration so you can always plug them back in if you mess up (which you probably will your first time ) and you'll be fine. Besides, there's always help here from some very knowledgeable people.
post #2209 of 2211
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Originally Posted by Grahut View Post

Thanks.

Will the AVS HD 709 do, since it's free, or is it too difficult?

It's a great disc, but it's jumping into the deep end.

The other discs walk you through what you are doing and why. The AVS disc is pretty much just patterns, they are good patterns though.
post #2210 of 2211
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

It's a great disc, but it's jumping into the deep end.

The other discs walk you through what you are doing and why. The AVS disc is pretty much just patterns, they are good patterns though.

Well, it's probably gonna take me less time to figure out using all the helpful posts on these forums than for one of those discs to arrive at this time of year. Though the World of War... Wonder disc looks like a cool thing to have.
post #2211 of 2211
Just wanted to say hi as well as thank you!
I found this thread while looking for calibration for my new Samsung UN40D5500 and (although I haven't read all its posts) I must say it's impressive all the effort and support put on this project!
I will be reading the entire thread as well as the documentation, but I already made my donation to get the ISO files.

Time to go study some more about calibration...
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