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post #31 of 1734
Any chance of being able to set a max TV-on-demand buffer space, i.e., 30 minutes? Just so you could watch it like Tivo but wouldn't have to worry about running out of HD space?

Just an idea.. It's really great as it is..
post #32 of 1734
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Works wonderfully on XP Pro P4 3GHz, 2 GB RAM, with Radeon 9800 Pro AIW, HDTV Wonder.

Please sub-contract with ATI and help them program !!!

5 minutes recorded on to a .dvr-ms file 92 MB in size (1.1 GB/hr). Is there any way to adjust the compression in recordings?

I'll try a timed recording tonight.

Timed record worked. Batting 100 so far.

Aloke
post #33 of 1734
I get the following error when I try to run WatchHDTV:

WatchHDTV MFC Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvience.

I'm running MCE 2005 with a Fusion 5 Lite. Any prerequistes needed to get Watch HDTV running?
post #34 of 1734
I've loved WatchHDTV, and still do. I've used it since version 1.5
Its great watching HDTV without having HDD space taken up just to watch tv.
Just tried 1.8, hoping for a smaller application to watch and record HDTV.
It plays TV fine, switches TV stations fine. It can even record TV fine.
However, everytime I click the "Sched" or "setup" from within 1.8 I get a crash.

(As such, I have to use my channel list from 1.6, but it works fine)

Version 1.5 and 1.6 both work fine, as does ATI's DTV program.

I set up a graph in graphedit per the readme, and I can watch TV.
However, I cannot change channels, or get into the options under Microsoft ATSC Network Provider.

The error from within WatchHDTV is "WatchHDTV MFC Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."
The error pops up and I have to hit "close" on three popups that say the same thing.
Quote:


AppName: watchhdtv.exe AppVer: 1.8.0.1 ModName: unknown
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00000000

I also ran regmon and filemon, but I can't tell exactly what caused the error.

(Win XP SP2, P4 3.0 GHz, 1.5 GB Ram, ATI Radeon 9600, Driver version "6.14.10.6553", ATI MMC version 9.06)

Can still watch the TV, though.
Oh, and great app! Thanks for all your work!
post #35 of 1734
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the comments.

Just updated to version 1.81. Not necessary for everyone- WatchHDTV Play/Plug-in update because I forgot remote volume and go to end. Rest updated for better support for using multiple tuners.

I'll add more support and help to the site soon. I'll try to answer questions later if/when more people respond to see how major/minor the problems are.

For WMP issues- file playback will be dependent solely on if the decoder WMP chooses can correctly play the files. You can control which decoder WMP chooses somewhat using other tools/registry editing- but it isn't recommended as it may mess up other programs. Other video players may work, but the main issue is whether or not the decoder being used is compatible with HD dvr-ms/mpeg video. So don't worry- WMP isn't broken, the files aren't messed up, and your computer isn't busted! Anyways, why would you want to use WMP if WatchHDTV Play works perfectly fine?!!?!

Thanks.
post #36 of 1734
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Originally Posted by fmattis View Post

Paul33993, it looks like VideoReDo will work as long as you save the edited file as mpg.

I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Works wonderfully on XP Pro P4 3GHz, 2 GB RAM, with Radeon 9800 Pro AIW, HDTV Wonder.

Please sub-contract with ATI and help them program !!!

5 minutes recorded on to a .dvr-ms file 92 MB in size (1.1 GB/hr). Is there any way to adjust the compression in recordings?

I'll try a timed recording tonight.

Aloke

I don't understand this statement. Is there an adjustment setting someplace? My setting is at 8G/hr.
post #37 of 1734
Hey guys, just doing a quick search of the web to see how to work with these dvr-ms files, I came across this site...

http://www.thegreenbutton.com/downloads.aspx

I tried the DVR 2 WMV and it seems to work pretty well (even on a non-Media Center PC) I haven't tried the others yet though.

As for my playback problem, it gets weirder. The playback still gets choppy after a couple of minutes even with the ATi decoders installed. As a little test, while the playback was choppy, I put it in TIMESHIFT mode. All of the sudden everything was great. But as soon as I went back to LIVE mode, everything became very choppy again. Strange.

Oh well, I still give this program a solid 10 out of 10. Thanks again Al.
post #38 of 1734
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Originally Posted by Paul33993 View Post

I'll have to check that out. Thanks!



I don't understand this statement. Is there an adjustment setting someplace? My setting is at 8G/hr.

I recorded a 2 hr program. It is in a .dvr-ms file 2,230,968 bytes in size.

The quality is very good.

Aloke
post #39 of 1734
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

I recorded a 2 hr program. It is in a .dvr-ms file 2,230,968 bytes in size.

The quality is very good.

Aloke

Weird. I recorded Lost last night and it was just under 8 gigs. Yet, I can see no settings to vary this.
post #40 of 1734
Great Program - Set up a donation button on your site - It is working good for me so far with my fusion 5 gold.
post #41 of 1734
Mine was recording fine earlier but now when I hit the REC button I get the following error and then it GPF's. Version 1.81

Can't setstreamsink
post #42 of 1734
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

I recorded a 2 hr program. It is in a .dvr-ms file 2,230,968 bytes in size.

The quality is very good.

I just realized that the program was not broadcast in 1080i resolution. Today, I recorded (in a time-shift mode) true 1080i program from a different DTV channel. This one was 3 GB for 45 min (4 GB/hr).
post #43 of 1734
All functions work great on my system (XP Pro, Radeon 9800 Pro AIW, Cat 5.5, MMC 9.08).

Could you please please please add the capability for NTSC tuners (like AIW)? Is there a technical reason not to add such tuners to WatchHDTV (and change the name of the program :-)
post #44 of 1734
WatchHDTV and my Fusion 3 have been playing together quite nicely as of late. Timeshifting / scheduled recording all seem to work great. I'd love to see a lipsync feature for those pesky broadcasts that can never seem to get this right (ABC, I'm looking at you). Keyboard shortcuts for jumping directly to particular channels would also be nice (how about numpad 1-9 jumps to channels 1-9, sorta like speed dial).

Great program hdtval!!
post #45 of 1734
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Originally Posted by nascar24 View Post

Just a note I had alot of of codec issues I believe originally with windows media player, I disabled all of them and windows automatically removed them all and all was well again.

Where are codecs disabled?
post #46 of 1734
I have covered this subject a few times but the best way to get codec's "filters" under control is with GSPOT.

No need to remove filters that are causing problems.

The trick is to set the filter merit, if a filter is marked as perfered then that is what will be used by the application unless the application is specific about the filter of choice.

A good example is Microsoft Media Player #10 on my system is using the CyberLink video filter and for audio the AC3Filter both of which have the highest merit for the media type selected.

Search here on AVS for my name and the keywork GSPOT for more information.
Be sure to select "advanced search / show posts"

Or you can look here:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost...0&postcount=23

Greg

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Originally Posted by clint501 View Post

Where are codecs disabled?
post #47 of 1734
Just found this thread and it made my day. The only reason I haven't tried WatchHDTV before is because it didn't do record/timeshift. Looks like I will be downloading this tonight.

Thanks hdtval21!
post #48 of 1734
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Originally Posted by QMAN71 View Post

I get the following error when I try to run WatchHDTV:

WatchHDTV MFC Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvience.

I'm running MCE 2005 with a Fusion 5 Lite. Any prerequistes needed to get Watch HDTV running?

I get the same issue. Just Downloaded and tired to run it. I have the Fusion 5 lite too. Anyone have this working with this card?
post #49 of 1734
Its great! It took me a while to figure out how to convert dvr-ms files to mpeg but all is good now. Thank You
post #50 of 1734
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Originally Posted by memikee View Post

Its great! It took me a while to figure out how to convert dvr-ms files to mpeg but all is good now. Thank You


Memikee, what did you use to convert to mpeg. I have looked all over but can't seem to get anything to work. It seems like everything out there is for MCE and not just plain Windows XP Pro SP2.

Thanks,
Frank.
post #51 of 1734
I am using it with the a180 and tieshifting worked for a day, but have since stoped working, weird.
post #52 of 1734
Nice program!

I have a request/suggestion:

Is it possible to implement support for ffdshow and live viewing?

I was just thinking it would be real nice, actually freaking awesome to be able to filter and scale analog broadcasts or even enhance HDTV on the fly with ffdshow like we do now with DVD and recorded video in certain programs.
post #53 of 1734
My favorite new feature is the decoders.txt file. I have the HDTV Wonder and I was never able to get SPDIF with 5.1 passthru working with any of the recent releases. Now with the decoders.txt file I can specifiy an audio decoder and get SPDIF output with all 5.1 channels!

I have been using AC3Filter and Nvidia Audio Decoder with success!
post #54 of 1734
Thread Starter 
WatchHDTV updated again, sorry!

About dvr-ms files- there's no control over compression, you get whatever's being sent. For "full" HD, generally it should be roughly 8 GB/hour(by full I mean 19.2 mbps). Some networks/stations don't utilize the full 19.2 so you will get smaller files. To convert dvr-ms to mpeg, you could use graphedit and if you have the right filters, build a graph with SBSource->a multiplexer->a mpeg dump filter. There may be someone here who will release a program to do so, I'll have to ask them what's going on. I think generally, you need to be careful with converting them and making sure whatever you plan on doing with them you can do, and the software you plan on using will work, consistently. I think more newer versions of editing software are providing better support for dvr-ms, HD, etc, so you may want to wait or at least see what all options are.

And lastly- I barely get this version out and everyone's making all these requests already!?!??!??? Can't I have a break? I gotta watch Lost too, you know.

Thanks, and great weekend to all.
post #55 of 1734
Ok - I ran into my first trouble tonight - I am using a fusion5 gold card and when I started up WatchHDTVplay and choose my prerecorded file - I get the error that it failed to load ATI audio filter.

I think this could be fixed by putting in the decoders.txt file only I haven't been able to figure out exactly how to do this. I run Graphedit on the file and it shows AC3filter and Mpeg2Dec which I don't think the fusion uses.

Would anyone who is knowledgeable post me a decoders.txt file (or the txt in it is all I need) for the Fusion5?
post #56 of 1734
Is it possible to build a graph to show closed captioning in WatchHDTV? I've been reading up on it for a while tonight, but all the examples I found were for the analog tuner.

Thanks!
post #57 of 1734
VideoRedo Plus converts dvr-ms. Open the file and use the save as option to mpeg or vob. I had to set a +600 ms delay on the audio to get in synch but it converts quite fast.
post #58 of 1734
Thread Starter 
Once again, another update- this time, the WatchHDTV plug-in needed some fixing. I seriously will try to stop this, seriously!!?!!

Dydion- I think there is a way get closed-captioning, at least I thought there was, but searching just now I didn't find anything. I know others have asked for this as well, but I just haven't had it as a top priority. Sorry.

toddscott- make sure WatchHDTV Play is in the same folder as WatchHDTV and that you setup WatchHDTV first. Once WatchHDTV is setup, WatchHDTV Play will use the config.txt file to know you have a Fusion and will use Fusion decoders. Since you said the error mentioned the ATI audio decoder, I figure that WatchHDTV isn't setup yet, or at least the config file isn't there.
The decoders.txt is easy-
first line- video decoder, second line- audio decoder
So if you wanted to use the decoders you mentioned, it would be this-
Mpeg2Dec
AC3Filter
This is presuming these are the exact names as shown in graphedit.
post #59 of 1734
Just tried version 1.8, so far so good on my old IBM PL300 upgraded with powerleap 1.4gh celeron.

I have the ati allinwonder 7500 and never got HD wonder to work with ati's software.

The only thing I can't get is the Second subchannel of pbs 43.

All the other channels and sub channels work. I have the WinHD in the same system can record HD off of that, but that tuner can't get the signals as well.

I know you don't want to be bothered by new features.

But what I would like is to to do, is write 4.482 megs to my DVD RW on G: and write the rest of the video to hard drive or another DVD RW.

I use Roxio to start format my DVD's, then I am able to write HDTV directly to my 8x DVD recorder on the fly.

However, I can only record a half hour before the disk fills up. I would use the duel lawyer, but those disk are too expensive.

Would be nice to write 4.482 megs to DVD RW on G:\\ 4.482 megs to my DVD RW on H:\\ and another 4.482 megs to my DVD RW on I:\\ Then I could record a whole HD movie on the fly to DVD on three disk.

Tim
post #60 of 1734
This is no biggie but for some reason I get this error when exiting the scheduler window.

WatchHDTVSched MFC Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

AppName: watchhdtvsched.exe AppVer: 1.2.0.1 ModName: watchhdtvsched.exe
ModVer: 1.2.0.1 Offset: 0000ad98
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