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post #13021 of 17548
7/19/10 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

Pretty much all of the channel providers have already degraded the signal by cramming too many channels onto the satellite transponders in the first place.

Yep!! It starts there.
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post #13022 of 17548
7/20/10 at 8:29am
So we got 2 new HD channels, but if you look at the thread on the Verizon forums, it's not anywhere in the top 5 of ones asked for.

Verizon asked for customer feedback and then....oh here's 2 but not the ones you want.
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post #13023 of 17548
7/20/10 at 8:47am
Sorry if this is a tad off topic but I'm curious, does anyone know what the encoding is for the Music channels? CD Quality, FLAC, MP3'ish?

Thanks.
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post #13024 of 17548
7/20/10 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by jamieva View Post

So we got 2 new HD channels, but if you look at the thread on the Verizon forums, it's not anywhere in the top 5 of ones asked for.

Verizon asked for customer feedback and then....oh here's 2 but not the ones you want.

And...Verizon has taken away MGM-HD from the majority of their subscribers and presnted us with...these. Not against these channels, but to lose a movie channel and instead get two documentary channels sticks in my craw
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post #13025 of 17548
7/20/10 at 10:33am
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Sorry if this is a tad off topic but I'm curious, does anyone know what the encoding is for the Music channels? CD Quality, FLAC, MP3'ish?

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AAC+ is getting very popular...
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post #13026 of 17548
7/20/10 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by Scamps View Post

Sorry if this is a tad off topic but I'm curious, does anyone know what the encoding is for the Music channels? CD Quality, FLAC, MP3'ish?

Thanks.

Not of topic at all...I've been wondering the same thing. I've found a huge variance in the quality between stations. Music Choice vs Urge..Music Choice seems to be a lot better although within MC, Classic Rock is terrible, sounds like a sony transistor radio, but Classical and both Jazz stations sound very good. The Urge stations seem to lack bass although the do trigger my sub when turned up, but I frankly can't stand the sound quality.

Has anyone tried to stream music from Verizon Media Manager? Now that's down right a waste of time. I don't understand, if I'm using my pre/pro DAC, why wouldn't it sound as good as my Roku Soundbridge?
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post #13027 of 17548
7/20/10 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by Joel Clemons View Post

And...Verizon has taken away MGM-HD from the majority of their subscribers and presnted us with...these. Not against these channels, but to lose a movie channel and instead get two documentary channels sticks in my craw

I still get it ,along with all the great films on 895.
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post #13028 of 17548
7/20/10 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by markjrenna View Post

3 to 1 like Comcast. This sux.

I was told this is false and only applies for MPEG-4.
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post #13029 of 17548
7/20/10 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by chitchatjf View Post

I still get it ,along with all the great films on 895.


The package changes are not supposed to take place until August 19th. I believe that EPIX (895) is having a free preview.
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post #13030 of 17548
7/20/10 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by Scamps View Post

Sorry if this is a tad off topic but I'm curious, does anyone know what the encoding is for the Music channels? CD Quality, FLAC, MP3'ish?

Thanks.

Music Choice channels are 192k AC3 2.0, URGE are 128k AC3 2.0.
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post #13031 of 17548
7/21/10 at 3:12am
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Originally Posted by mikeewing View Post

The package changes are not supposed to take place until August 19th. I believe that EPIX (895) is having a free preview.

There has been no notice yet up in Boston. OTOH I am not with Ultimate as of today so I know I will not be losing the channels.
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post #13032 of 17548
7/21/10 at 4:37am
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Originally Posted by Barbour120 View Post


Has anyone tried to stream music from Verizon Media Manager? Now that's down right a waste of time. I don't understand, if I'm using my pre/pro DAC, why wouldn't it sound as good as my Roku Soundbridge?

I have.
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post #13033 of 17548
7/24/10 at 4:35pm
I'm wondering if there are some wizards in our collective group that can answer a few questions about FiOS, or more accurately the potential for FiOS.

Background: I live in Colorado Springs where we have no Verizon FiOS and the outlook for installation is very low. There is a Qwest fiber cable terminating in a box right next to my apartment complex. This is according to a tech here restoring phone service the other day. That got me thinking, I wonder if I could work with the Apt Owners to see about getting a fiber connection to the complex and distribution fiber runs to the individual units, (preferably to BICSI standards - I know a couple of BICSI certified engineers that could help with the design). I don't know if Verizon has any cable in the area or if they just lease any bandwidth if needed, so the provider choice may be limited.

So my questions:

1. Is there anyway to determine whether Verizon has any owned cable facilities (or long term leases) that could be considered in this idea.

2. Assume the answer to #1 is no. Would Qwest permit a connection between a distribution point within the complex and a Verizon facility (wherever that is)? Along those lines, does anyone know what type of backhaul circuits Verizon uses to their residential distribution hubs? OC-3/-12/-48/96, etc?

3. Assume the answer to #2 is yes. Would Verizon be interested in providing content and subscriber boxes to a relatively small number of users?

4. Has anyone heard of a scheme like this before? Or, are there any other thoughts on how a "little guy" might be able to develop a fiber solution. Also, since this is a company (Apt Owner or his contractor, perhaps me) to Verizon/Qwest contract, I wouldn't think this would be something subject to the city's cable franchise board. This would be a service provided to the complex residents that they could use or not (i.e. they would not be forced to use it) and not available to any other citizens.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts and ideas.
Cheers.
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post #13034 of 17548
7/24/10 at 6:53pm
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Originally Posted by Satcom15 View Post

I'm wondering if there are some wizards in our collective group that can answer a few questions about FiOS, or more accurately the potential for FiOS.

Background: I live in Colorado Springs where we have no Verizon FiOS and the outlook for installation is very low. There is a Qwest fiber cable terminating in a box right next to my apartment complex. This is according to a tech here restoring phone service the other day. That got me thinking, I wonder if I could work with the Apt Owners to see about getting a fiber connection to the complex and distribution fiber runs to the individual units, (preferably to BICSI standards - I know a couple of BICSI certified engineers that could help with the design). I don't know if Verizon has any cable in the area or if they just lease any bandwidth if needed, so the provider choice may be limited.

So my questions:

1. Is there anyway to determine whether Verizon has any owned cable facilities (or long term leases) that could be considered in this idea.

2. Assume the answer to #1 is no. Would Qwest permit a connection between a distribution point within the complex and a Verizon facility (wherever that is)? Along those lines, does anyone know what type of backhaul circuits Verizon uses to their residential distribution hubs? OC-3/-12/-48/96, etc?

3. Assume the answer to #2 is yes. Would Verizon be interested in providing content and subscriber boxes to a relatively small number of users?

4. Has anyone heard of a scheme like this before? Or, are there any other thoughts on how a "little guy" might be able to develop a fiber solution. Also, since this is a company (Apt Owner or his contractor, perhaps me) to Verizon/Qwest contract, I wouldn't think this would be something subject to the city's cable franchise board. This would be a service provided to the complex residents that they could use or not (i.e. they would not be forced to use it) and not available to any other citizens.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts and ideas.
Cheers.

You have Qwest, which means no Verizon in the area, which means no FiOS. Verizon has only overbuilt AT&T in small portions of Texas, and they certainly won't overbuild Qwest (having to first go through AT&T territory) some several hundred miles all the way to Colorado.
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post #13035 of 17548
7/24/10 at 9:11pm
I would rate the chances of that happening as approximately 0.

Some small rural towns have managed to build out successful fiber networks with IPTV service unrelated to large national providers, but most of them rely on having no competition from those providers in order to boost the subscriber percentage to the point where they can cover expenses. Trying to do it in an area like Colorado Springs which has entrenched providers like Comcast and Qwest would be very difficult, if not impossible due to said providers bribing local politicians to keep out competitors.
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post #13036 of 17548
7/24/10 at 10:40pm
Is FiOS still peddling the bogus HD DVRs? Are they finally slinging one w/a larger internal HD or the ability to plug in an external one by way of SATA?
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post #13037 of 17548
7/24/10 at 10:59pm
I'm hearing by the end of the year with newer DVR's and eSata with IMG 1.9 by years end too. We'll see.
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post #13038 of 17548
7/25/10 at 1:35am
Verizon's latest quarterly earnings report indicates 3.8 million FiOS Internet and 3.2 million FiOS TV subscribers. That makes Verizon the 7th largest television provider, but in order to climb any higher they'll need to accumulate another 1.6 million subscribers, which at the current pace of 174,000 subscribers per quarter will take quite a while.

It's good to see the gap continue to close between Internet and TV subscribers though. It'll be interesting to see how the next report turns out, since they've done away with the contract requirements.
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post #13039 of 17548
7/25/10 at 10:47am
I just stopped by the Food Channel HD and it is stretched. What's up with that?
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post #13040 of 17548
7/25/10 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by TWD View Post

I just stopped by the Food Channel HD and it is stretched. What's up with that?

not all shows on Food Network are HD. If they're showing something from 7 or 8 years ago, it's not going to be HD.

Newer shows should be HD, however. Occasionally, an HD episode will be shwon with black bars -- almost like somebody forgot to throw the switch on their end...doesn't happen very often though.
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post #13041 of 17548
7/25/10 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

Is FiOS still peddling the bogus HD DVRs?

"Proximity/Merriam-Webster U.S. English Thesaurus

1 meaning(s) for “bogus”

1. (adj) being an imitation intended to mislead or deceive
• (synonym) counterfeit, brummagem, fake, false, phony, pinchbeck, pseudo, sham, snide, spurious
• (see also) spurious
• (related) feigned, pretended, simulated, deceptive, delusive, delusory, misleading, fraudulent"

Please read the definition of bogus above. I really don't think the Verizon box is "bogus". And I don't think their offer to rent you a box is "peddling". It does what it is supposed to do and it actually does it fairly well. I actually like it very much and have never filled it up. In many ways I like it's functionality better than the Tivo, which I also have.
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post #13042 of 17548
7/26/10 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

I would rate the chances of that happening as approximately 0.

Some small rural towns have managed to build out successful fiber networks with IPTV service unrelated to large national providers, but most of them rely on having no competition from those providers in order to boost the subscriber percentage to the point where they can cover expenses. Trying to do it in an area like Colorado Springs which has entrenched providers like Comcast and Qwest would be very difficult, if not impossible due to said providers bribing local politicians to keep out competitors.

0%? I'm crushed. I was hoping for at least 1%

You're right about the politician/industry connection (BTW we have a Comcast call center here) - its blatent in this town. Still, if I establish a point to point high bandwidth connection between the apartment complex and an ISP (or Verizon), why should it be any business of the franchise board? I'm not providing service to anyone and am not using city right of way. Its a private business arrangement. Wish I had the $$$ to find out what would happen. Or, suppose the complex put up its own satellite antennas and contracted directly with content providers/networks and distributed service internally. Hmmmm - An interesting thought.

Cheers
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post #13043 of 17548
7/27/10 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

I would rate the chances of that happening as approximately 0.

Some small rural towns have managed to build out successful fiber networks with IPTV service unrelated to large national providers, but most of them rely on having no competition from those providers in order to boost the subscriber percentage to the point where they can cover expenses. Trying to do it in an area like Colorado Springs which has entrenched providers like Comcast and Qwest would be very difficult, if not impossible due to said providers bribing local politicians to keep out competitors.

The fights over this have been amazing to follow - with bill after bill (often sponsored/written by the Cable Companies) proposed to cripple 'Municipal Broadband'. If you want to read about the details, try this link, this one and a more general article.
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post #13044 of 17548
7/27/10 at 9:42am
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post #13045 of 17548
7/27/10 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by jeepmatt View Post

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Are you saying this is going to be the norm from here on out?
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post #13046 of 17548
7/27/10 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by jeepmatt View Post

Orignal quote removed at Matt's request.

Matt,
I too am curious why you posted this? Did you hear any news?
-Jakes
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post #13047 of 17548
7/27/10 at 1:37pm
I really hope it's not the norm. I watch a lot of Comedy Central with Futurama, The Daily Show, and The Colbert Report, and the degradation in PQ is fairly apparent, with heavy blocking on fast motion that was never there before. 1080i MPEG2 usually works given the ability to use 18Mb/s; it fails at 12, and the failure is not graceful.
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post #13048 of 17548
7/27/10 at 2:09pm
I was told no to 3 to 1 HD's. I was told the providers (HBO) are doing a 3 to 1 but it isn't Verizon's move.
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post #13049 of 17548
7/27/10 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by chitchatjf View Post

There has been no notice yet up in Boston. OTOH I am not with Ultimate as of today so I know I will not be losing the channels.

It is the people who DON'T have Ultimate who will be losing channels. It will happen in Boston soon enough.
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post #13050 of 17548
7/27/10 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by film113 View Post

It is the people who DON'T have Ultimate who will be losing channels. It will happen in Boston soon enough.

I just switched over
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