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post #16531 of 17987
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Originally Posted by carpboy View Post

Is there anyone that can use the PDA app for remote control that does NOT have FiOS as their ISP?

Good question. Maybe Umatter2verizon can answer that.
post #16532 of 17987
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Originally Posted by rich3fan View Post

Good question. Maybe Umatter2verizon can answer that.

I've gone through the support process with Verizon, they were quite helpful actually. The rep informed me while going through all this, a co-worker told him I had to have FiOS internet.

I can connect my phone to the Actiontec, can get the embedded web page. When I run the remote control app on it a message on the TV pops up telling me I have to register the device. I register the device (on the TV and on the Verizon web page), am given a confirmation code, but nothing anywhere ever asks me for the code. I run the widget on the cable box and am told that there is a network failure. The PDA app tells me that there are no STB's.

If I do need FiOS to do this, I find it odd that the DVR knows I am trying to connect to it. Not odd that it knows, but odd that this demonstrates at least a rudimentary communication link between the two yet is not sufficient to complete the process.

That is why I have doubts - I can connect to the router and that is (literally) my gateway into the DVR. What's the internet have to do with it?
post #16533 of 17987
I just noticed that Starz movies and shows are "free" on flexplay (with starz as part of my package).

When I try to watch on my EVO 3d, I get a drm message, and cannot watch.

Anyone know if there is a app to download besides Media Mgr., or a workaround?

Maybe only specific devices work.

Gary E
post #16534 of 17987
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Originally Posted by dc_pilgrim View Post


Also, if I do this I'll be adding a second box in the house. Does any one know if the non-dvr set top boxes continuously output both HDMI and Component? My intention is to put a PJ in the rec room and feed it with the HDMI, while having the box in the gym feeding the old HD CRT via component.

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Originally Posted by UnnDunn View Post

Verizon boxes can output HDMI and Component simultaneously. However, if the HDMI handshake fails, the Component output will also be disabled until the HDMI cable is disconnected.

As an update, I have had no problem running both component and HDMI from the motorola 7100 P-1. Component doesn't seem to be disabled even with the PJ/Receiver off (Denon 1712). I was expecting to have a handshake issue like UnnDunn described, but happily not. Just as well, since the hdmi port in my old tv seems to be on the fritz, so a matrix switch wouldn't have worked.

Also, I seem to be able use the box as a multi-room DVR, even though I didn't have my billing updated to enable that yet. It sees the recordings on the 7232 no problem, although sometimes I have to refresh the device in the menus.

No complaints on either point!
post #16535 of 17987
NBA League Pass FREE PREVIEW 2/28 - 3/4
post #16536 of 17987
any plans to add BounceTV?
post #16537 of 17987
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Originally Posted by mdviewer25 View Post

any plans to add BounceTV?

I'm afraid to ask...
post #16538 of 17987
http://www.bouncetv.com/

"Bounce TV is the first African American broadcast network, featuring a programming mix of theatrical motion pictures, sporting events, documentaries, specials, inspirational faith-based programs, off-network series, original programming and more. Bounce TV’s founders include Martin Luther King III, Ambassador Andrew Young, Andrew “Bo” Young III, and Rob Hardy and Will Packer, co-founders of Rainforest Films, one of the top African American production companies in the world."
post #16539 of 17987
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Originally Posted by BMAG View Post

http://www.bouncetv.com/

"Bounce TV is the first African American broadcast network, featuring a programming mix of theatrical motion pictures, sporting events, documentaries, specials, inspirational faith-based programs, off-network series, original programming and more. Bounce TV’s founders include Martin Luther King III, Ambassador Andrew Young, Andrew “Bo” Young III, and Rob Hardy and Will Packer, co-founders of Rainforest Films, one of the top African American production companies in the world."

It actually looks like a pretty good network. If Verizon carried it, I'd add it to my favorites.
post #16540 of 17987
It's a subchannel network. It would need to be carried by a local station, and the station would need to make a deal with Verizon to carry it. It's carried by WUSA in the DC market, and Verizon does carry WUSA's other subchannel, so I would imagine they will probably add it sooner or later, somewhere in the 460-500 range. NYC (WWOR), LA (KCOP), and Baltimore (WUTB) will almost certainly get it too, since they're all Fox-owned stations. It's already up in Norfolk/Hampton Roads (WAVY) and Richmond (WUPV). Down the line, if Fox adds it to their stations in Dallas, Boston, and Tampa, those would probably show up on FiOS too.
post #16541 of 17987
It's not even HD?

Worthless.
post #16542 of 17987
Do you watch Cartoon Network in SD scorpiontail?
post #16543 of 17987
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

It's not even HD?

Worthless.

The quoted post?

Worthless.
post #16544 of 17987
The above post?

Priceless.
post #16545 of 17987
Anyone know of a way to delete the "recent deletes" without going through 5 full button presses EACH to get rid of them? They have the "remove all" for the History, but it seems recent deletes require individual effort and a minimum of 5 presses to delete each one.
post #16546 of 17987
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Originally Posted by rich3fan View Post

Do you watch Cartoon Network in SD scorpiontail?

No, I watch it in HD because Time Warner Cable is actually a competent television provider who actually adds HD feeds of popular channels on a regular basis.
post #16547 of 17987
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post


No, I watch it in HD because Time Warner Cable is actually a competent television provider who actually adds HD feeds of popular channels on a regular basis.

But how is the quality of the channels? Comcast in my area has a lot of HD channels, but they also look like crap compared to how they look on FiOS.
post #16548 of 17987
Cartoon Network HD looks great. Animation doesn't require as high of bitrates which is another reason why it's infuriating that Verizon hasn't added this channel yet. It would only need half as much QAM space as the typical HD channel! It's ~8 Mbps on Time Warner most of the time and it looks to be basically Blu-ray quality until the occasional really fast action animated scene (then there is indeed some macroblocking).

As for most of the other channels, it's a toss-up. Almost all HD channels are distributed natively as MPEG-4 on satellite now so Verizon and all other cable providers with MPEG-2 boxes MUST re-encode almost every channel. The bitrates are comparable with most FiOS TV channels.

Verizon does still have a handful of channels it re-encodes at bitrates higher than ~13 Mbps. Some of these include EPIX & EPIX 2, HDNet & HDNet Movies, A&E, and History.

As A&E Networks are only 720p there's not much of a quality improvement there, higher bitrate or not. EPIX and HDNet are the best looking channels on Verizon but Time Warner doesn't carry them anyway.

Here's a few screenshots of Cartoon Network HD on Time Warner (click for full 1920x1080 .png):




If you're stuck with FiOS TV and would like some more screenshots from HD channels you can't get like BBC America, Cooking, G4, Game Show Network, H2, Hallmark, OWN, Style, etc. just let me know.
post #16549 of 17987
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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

Anyone know of a way to delete the "recent deletes" without going through 5 full button presses EACH to get rid of them? They have the "remove all" for the History, but it seems recent deletes require individual effort and a minimum of 5 presses to delete each one.

I haven't found a way to do that. Yes, it would make sense to be able to delete all recent deletes since you can remove all of the history, but that's Verizon for ya. Truthfully, I don't even know why there needs to be a recent deletes menu item in the first place.
post #16550 of 17987
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

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If you're stuck with FiOS TV and would like some more screenshots from HD channels you can't get like BBC America, Cooking, G4, Game Show Network, H2, Hallmark, OWN, Style, etc. just let me know.

Do they have the Funimation channel? I would prefer that HD channel over Cartoon Network.
post #16551 of 17987
Only AT&T carries Funimation Channel HD.
post #16552 of 17987
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

No, I watch it in HD because Time Warner Cable is actually a competent television provider

HAHAHAHAHA good one.
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who actually adds HD feeds of popular channels on a regular basis.

OK, at least that part is true. Though not having to deal with SDV and copy protection BS still gives Verizon a huge advantage.
post #16553 of 17987
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

Cartoon Network HD looks great. Animation doesn't require as high of bitrates which is another reason why it's infuriating that Verizon hasn't added this channel yet. It would only need half as much QAM space as the typical HD channel! It's ~8 Mbps on Time Warner most of the time and it looks to be basically Blu-ray quality until the occasional really fast action animated scene (then there is indeed some macroblocking).

As for most of the other channels, it's a toss-up. Almost all HD channels are distributed natively as MPEG-4 on satellite now so Verizon and all other cable providers with MPEG-2 boxes MUST re-encode almost every channel. The bitrates are comparable with most FiOS TV channels.

Verizon does still have a handful of channels it re-encodes at bitrates higher than ~13 Mbps. Some of these include EPIX & EPIX 2, HDNet & HDNet Movies, A&E, and History.

As A&E Networks are only 720p there's not much of a quality improvement there, higher bitrate or not. EPIX and HDNet are the best looking channels on Verizon but Time Warner doesn't carry them anyway.

Here's a few screenshots of Cartoon Network HD on Time Warner (click for full 1920x1080 .png):...


If you're stuck with FiOS TV and would like some more screenshots from HD channels you can't get like BBC America, Cooking, G4, Game Show Network, H2, Hallmark, OWN, Style, etc. just let me know.

Now that's a helpful post. Thanks. We have Comcast here, not Time Warner but I've been wondering lately if maybe the grass is greener on the other side. Cooking HD is a channel that would interest me as well as a few others. Losing HD Net and HD net movies would be a tough pill to swallow. We would also lose a few movie channels in HD in exchange for what we gain. Probably would cost more also since I'm really not interested in changing my internet.
post #16554 of 17987
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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

Anyone know of a way to delete the "recent deletes" without going through 5 full button presses EACH to get rid of them? They have the "remove all" for the History, but it seems recent deletes require individual effort and a minimum of 5 presses to delete each one.

Why are you deleting the "recent deletes"? It doesn't provide any benefit to do so.
post #16555 of 17987
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Originally Posted by crankerchick View Post

Cooking HD is a channel that would interest me

The Cooking channel in HD is the only other HD channel I'd like to see Fios add. It really annoys me that all the Fios bravado about "unlimited" capacity has completely fizzled out. The Cooking channel in SD is unwatchable.
post #16556 of 17987
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snigggles View Post

The Cooking channel in HD is the only other HD channel I'd like to see Fios add. It really annoys me that all the Fios bravado about "unlimited" capacity has completely fizzled out. The Cooking channel in SD is unwatchable.

Cooking Channel HD looks pretty good on Time Warner Cable. A bit better than Food Network on FiOS, imo. Verizon must have a really poor MPEG-2 encoder setup for that channel. All the Scripps networks look pretty awful on FiOS. (Scripps networks are all native MPEG-4 so Verizon must re-encode them to MPEG-2, resulting in quality loss):



Another channel we'll never see on FiOS...
post #16557 of 17987
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Originally Posted by UnnDunn View Post

Why are you deleting the "recent deletes"? It doesn't provide any benefit to do so.

Just personal taste. I realize when space is finally needed that they will be over written. But in the mean time, they take up a lot space on the HDD, causing a lot of potential disk fragmenting. Obviously not a big deal, but I get so many other issues with the HDD performance, I just like to keep it as clean as possible. And, since they provide for deleting the 'recent deletes', it seems they assume you might want to and could easily make it simpler like the "remove all" for history. Same idea, different execution.
post #16558 of 17987
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

Only AT&T carries Funimation Channel HD.

Not only that, you can get all the same shows carried on Funimation Channel HD in HD on Netflix streaming commercial free so I don't even know why you'd want to bother? I had it on FIOS and never turned it on once.
post #16559 of 17987
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

Not only that, you can get all the same shows carried on Funimation Channel HD in HD on Netflix streaming commercial free so I don't even know why you'd want to bother? I had it on FIOS and never turned it on once.

Unfortunately that isn't true. There were a couple of series I watched recently that were not available on Netflix that they showed on the Funimation channel. I watched a few episodes from the channel and purchased the rest from Amazon.
post #16560 of 17987
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Unfortunately that isn't true. There were a couple of series I watched recently that were not available on Netflix that they showed on the Funimation channel. I watched a few episodes from the channel and purchased the rest from Amazon.

Which ones? Because there are quite a few available on Netflix. Frankly I'm not even sure why you'd want to bother with the lo-res SD mess that's on FIOS.
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