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post #17281 of 17990
I'm even more sorry because it is not silly. Financial District in Lower Manhattan was an extreme case and a once in 100 year event. Phone companies are likely to man their Central Offices before during and after a storm and there is a lot of backup power. Cell sites which are scattered all over in most cases can't have the backup power due to space, cost, and other factors and are not manned. Sandy wiped out 1 in 4 cell sites. Simply moving from one area to a "working" area may not always be possible and batteries drain quickly as the handset searches for a working signal. If you're in NYC as your profile says, then you would understand most people here dont have cars to charge their phone. E911 doesn't work great on cell phones but if u dial 911 from a landline, they know exactly where you are.
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Originally Posted by UnnDunn View Post

I'm sorry, but this is silly. All of these technologies have vulnerabilities that could result in a loss of service, especially during extreme weather events. For example, if you live or work in the Financial District of NYC and you were on copper, you may have lost service for WEEKS after Hurricane Sandy because all the underground copper corroded while submerged in storm-surge flooding. Fiber customers got service back in a few days since all they had to do was replace the distributors. Staying on copper is no panacea against future service loss.

If you're making decisions based on reliability during extreme situations, you're probably best served buying a cheap prepaid cellphone, since cellphones by their very nature have redundancies to help mitigate interference and service loss (in other words, you are served by multiple towers; if one goes down you still have others to provide service. And if you lose service entirely, you can move to a location where you can get service.) Buy a cellphone and use your car to charge it if you lose power for an extended period.

But clinging doggedly to your POTS line and raging on the Internets because of this is just dumb.

Edited by nyctveng - 2/21/13 at 6:25am
post #17282 of 17990
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Originally Posted by UnnDunn View Post

I'm sorry, but this is silly. All of these technologies have vulnerabilities that could result in a loss of service, especially during extreme weather events. For example, if you live or work in the Financial District of NYC and you were on copper, you may have lost service for WEEKS after Hurricane Sandy because all the underground copper corroded while submerged in storm-surge flooding. Fiber customers got service back in a few days since all they had to do was replace the distributors. Staying on copper is no panacea against future service loss.

If you're making decisions based on reliability during extreme situations, you're probably best served buying a cheap prepaid cellphone, since cellphones by their very nature have redundancies to help mitigate interference and service loss (in other words, you are served by multiple towers; if one goes down you still have others to provide service. And if you lose service entirely, you can move to a location where you can get service.) Buy a cellphone and use your car to charge it if you lose power for an extended period.

But clinging doggedly to your POTS line and raging on the Internets because of this is just dumb.

It's not silly or dumb, but thanks for calling me dumb. In my 40+ years I've lost copper based service once for a less than 24 hours so I'm not too concerned with losing it for weeks in your extreme example of flooding. If a telephone pole goes down it's going to take both the copper and FiOS line down so no benefit to FiOS there. I'm not making decisions based extreme situations. A blizzard is not that extreme here in MA.
post #17283 of 17990
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

I'm even more sorry because it is not silly. Financial District in Lower Manhattan was an extreme case and a once in 100 year event. Phone companies are likely to man their Central Offices before during and after a storm and there is a lot of backup power. Cell sites which are scattered all over in most cases can't have the backup power due to space, cost, and other factors and are not manned. Sandy wiped out 1 in 4 cell sites. Simply moving from one area to a "working" area may not always be possible and batteries drain quickly as the handset searches for a working signal. If you're in NYC as your profile says, then you would understand most people here dont have cars to charge their phone. E911 doesn't work great on cell phones but if u dial 911 from a landline, they know exactly where you are.

Sure, and freak hurricanes could fell trees, wiping out copper/power lines serving your neighborhood, in some remote unmanned location. Or the aforementioned catastrophic corrosion of NYCs underground copper. Or disgruntled union employees could go around cutting cables during strikes. It's fun to imagine what possible disasters could befall telecommunications infrastructure.
post #17284 of 17990
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Originally Posted by RolandOG View Post

It's not silly or dumb, but thanks for calling me dumb. In my 40+ years I've lost copper based service once for a less than 24 hours so I'm not too concerned with losing it for weeks in your extreme example of flooding. If a telephone pole goes down it's going to take both the copper and FiOS line down so no benefit to FiOS there. I'm not making decisions based extreme situations. A blizzard is not that extreme here in MA.

There are many ways to address the battery backup issue. Buy a bigger battery or UPS so you get more than 8 hours of backup power, or stockpile several batteries. Buy a generator (if you are this paranoid about losing power, you probably should invest in a generator anyway.) Switch to a cellphone. Put solar panels on your house.

I'm sure you're furiously typing out point-by-point reasons why none of those options are viable. But my point is that your aversion to FiOS has nothing to do with copper's perceived reliability in extreme situations; that's just a convenient (and untrue) excuse.

Fiber is more reliable than copper. It is less susceptible to EM interference and long-term weather wear. It is not affected by distance, power surges or moisture. And if you are unsatisfied with 8 hours of backup power, you can do something about it. Or you can stick your fingers in your ears and yell "I'll NEVER give up copper, EVER! LALALALALALALA!"
post #17285 of 17990
Nah, no need to type furiously to respond to your comments. You've made up your mind that you're right and another point of view on this is wrong. I've already wasted enough time responding to you.
post #17286 of 17990
Is anyone else in L.A. seeing distracting, regular quick white flashes during Clippers and Lakers games ( FSW and TWC Sports, respectively)? I think it may be my TV but want to make sure.
post #17287 of 17990
Not a problem for me in the OC.
post #17288 of 17990
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Originally Posted by lulimet View Post

Any news on Fios picking up the new BeIN sports channels?

None that I have heard but I have sent a couple of e-mails to Verizon via the BeIN Sport website.
post #17289 of 17990
Any chance that fios will offer 1080p content soon
post #17290 of 17990
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

Any chance that fios will offer 1080p content soon
Unlikely anytime soon since there's no networks transmitting in 1080p and most of fios boxes don't support it.
post #17291 of 17990
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

Any chance that fios will offer 1080p content soon
In broadcast usage, there is no difference between 1080i and 1080p.
post #17292 of 17990
Its still the same when viewed on a 42 inch display.
post #17293 of 17990
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

Any chance that fios will offer 1080p content soon
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

Unlikely anytime soon since there's no networks transmitting in 1080p and most of fios boxes don't support it.

Directv does 1080p vod so dont know the details but can fios support that ?
post #17294 of 17990
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post


Directv does 1080p vod so dont know the details but can fios support that ?
FiOS can easily support it if they want to. All VOD on FIOS is an IP stream.
post #17295 of 17990
The PQ on the NBC Sports network coverage of the Redwings vs. Blackhawks game yesterday was outstanding. There were other live games on FIOS yesterday that didn't come close. I was very impressed!
post #17296 of 17990
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post


Directv does 1080p vod so dont know the details but can fios support that ?

Yes, Verizon could support it if they wanted to, but it would have no effect other than to make your TV show "1080p" instead of "1080i". It wouldn't actually make the picture any better.
post #17297 of 17990
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Originally Posted by UnnDunn View Post

Yes, Verizon could support it if they wanted to, but it would have no effect other than to make your TV show "1080p" instead of "1080i". It wouldn't actually make the picture any better.

Assuming the 1080i is de-iinterlaced properly. Many devices still occasionally have issues with de-interlacing 1080i properly.
post #17298 of 17990
Just received this today. Any info on the replacement equipment?


Important Notification Regarding Your FiOS® TV Equipment

Dear Valued Verizon Customer,

To provide you the very best entertainment experience, Verizon continues to enhance our FiOS® network. We wanted you to be aware of an upcoming change that may impact how you view certain HD channels.

On or after April 15, 2013, we will be making a change to our network which may require that you exchange your current High Definition Set Top Box (STB)** if you want to access the HD channels impacted by this change (list provided below). The exchange is provided at no cost to you. If you choose to exchange your STB, it's a simple process. You can order a new STB directly from your FiOS® TV and we will promptly mail it to you, along with a box and pre-paid label so you can easily return your old STB.
You are not required to exchange your Set Top Box

If you want to view the impacted channels below on or after April 15, 2013, then you may be required to exchange your current Set Top Box at no cost to you

Set Top Box exchange is a simple process - your FiOS TV will guide you through the process in a few easy steps. On or after April 15, 2013, when you tune to one of the impacted channels below, your FiOS TV will recommend you exchange your Set Top Box and show you how to do so

Verizon will ship your new Set Top Box promptly, and include a box and pre-paid shipping label to return your old Set Top Box. We'll also include simple instructions for connecting your new Set Top Box

If you have multiple boxes that are impacted by this network change, your FiOS TV will prompt you to exchange all boxes that require a replacement, again at no cost to you

Here are the channels impacted by our network change on or after April 15, 2013:

IMPACTED CHANNELS
Channel Name Channel Number Channel Name Channel Number
ES.TV
558 HBO Family 906
ESPN Goal Line/Buzzer Beater
571 HBO Family (West) 907
Tennis Channel
592 HBO Latino 912
World Fishing Network
597 HBO Latino West 913
Cars.TV
599 MoreMax (West) 923
Pets.TV
633 Action Max 924
MyDestination.TV
674 Thriller Max 926
Recipe.TV
676 W Max 928
Comedy.TV
695 At Max 929
MGM HD
744 ESPN 3D 1002

To determine if your HD STB(s) must be exchanged to view the impacted channels:

Press the MENU button on your remote

Navigate to CUSTOMER SUPPORT, select IN-HOME AGENT, choose SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE, and then press OK

You can then follow the onscreen prompts to determine if your HD STB(s) must be replaced and submit a STB exchange request.

We apologize for any inconvenience and look forward to continuing to provide you with the very best entertainment over the FiOS network.

Sincerely,

Your Verizon Team



** CableCARDs provided by Verizon are compatible with the network enhancements being made and do not require an exchange. If you use a CableCARD and experience issues viewing any of the channels listed above, please click here for more information
post #17299 of 17990
Git this also and went ahead and ordered, as I still have the old 6416 box and I'm hoping the replacement is an upgrade. Of course, that's not stated in the e-mail so...fingers crossed.
post #17300 of 17990
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Originally Posted by FOPA View Post

Just received this today. Any info on the replacement equipment?
To determine if your HD STB(s) must be exchanged to view the impacted channels:

Press the MENU button on your remote

Navigate to CUSTOMER SUPPORT, select IN-HOME AGENT, choose SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE, and then press OK

You can then follow the onscreen prompts to determine if your HD STB(s) must be replaced and submit a STB exchange request.

Good bleeping grief... rolleyes.gif

There is no SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE under IN-HOME AGENT. There is a SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE directly under CUSTOMER SUPPORT, but that provides no information about whether or not I need to exchange my box; it simply invites me to do so.

To really find out if you need to exchange your box, select CUSTOMER SUPPORT, then HELP TOPICS, then SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE.

Why does a communication company communicate so poorly? Does nobody proofread and/or test anything anymore?
post #17301 of 17990
This is a move to get the 6400 and 6200 series STB out of service. They cannot receive MPEG-4 channel transmission, which Verizon is moving to. All the channels listed will be sent as MPEG-4 not MPEG-2, which saves half your bandwidth and has better quality. Means more HD channels will be added.

Already news is 4 new NHL Center Ice.
post #17302 of 17990
This is great news. I use TiVo Premieres which have no problem with the current FiOS MPEG 4 channels. I only wish the change would occur on March 15th instead of April 15th. The sooner they switch to MPEG4 the better.
post #17303 of 17990
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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

This is a move to get the 6400 and 6200 series STB out of service. They cannot receive MPEG-4 channel transmission, which Verizon is moving to. All the channels listed will be sent as MPEG-4 not MPEG-2, which saves half your bandwidth and has better quality. Means more HD channels will be added.
Are these the only models affected? Need to call my parents to make sure they DON'T have these...

With 20 channels "moving," VZ could add another 20 MPEG-4 HD channels...
post #17304 of 17990
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Are these the only models affected? Need to call my parents to make sure they DON'T have these...

With 20 channels "moving," VZ could add another 20 MPEG-4 HD channels...
In another forum, someone "in the know" is saying there will be 40 HD channel adds by the end of April. Of course we know how good Verizon is at meeting their dates, but this is the current rumor.
post #17305 of 17990
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Originally Posted by scott_bernstein View Post

In another forum, someone "in the know" is saying there will be 40 HD channel adds by the end of April. Of course we know how good Verizon is at meeting their dates, but this is the current rumor.

Is this the line:

"approximately FORTY HD channels would be added in the next few months."

If that is how are you getting by april 30 from that ?
post #17306 of 17990
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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

This is a move to get the 6400 and 6200 series STB out of service. They cannot receive MPEG-4 channel transmission, which Verizon is moving to. All the channels listed will be sent as MPEG-4 not MPEG-2, which saves half your bandwidth and has better quality. Means more HD channels will be added.

Already news is 4 new NHL Center Ice.
No this is a move to free up bandwith by moving less viewed (dot tv),higher tier, and channels already received in mpeg4 (HBO)to mpeg4. It's not by any means an aggressive move to phase out 1st gen boxes. Most of the new channels added will likely be in mpeg2 format. Boxes are a big expense so those 6000 series boxes will be around in a while whether you like it or not.
post #17307 of 17990
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Is this the line:

"approximately FORTY HD channels would be added in the next few months."

If that is how are you getting by april 30 from that ?
There was another post I believe I read saying that "a big channel add is coming by the end of April" in addition to the one that you quote verbatim.

Of course, as with anything Verizon does, it should be taken with a grain of salt because their dates ALWAYS seem to slip.
post #17308 of 17990
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Originally Posted by joblo View Post

Good bleeping grief... rolleyes.gif

There is no SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE under IN-HOME AGENT. There is a SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE directly under CUSTOMER SUPPORT, but that provides no information about whether or not I need to exchange my box; it simply invites me to do so.

To really find out if you need to exchange your box, select CUSTOMER SUPPORT, then HELP TOPICS, then SET TOP BOX EXCHANGE.

Why does a communication company communicate so poorly? Does nobody proofread and/or test anything anymore?

It showed up in both places today. I just ran it and it analyzes the types of boxes you have in your home and indicates by name which (if you have more than one) should be upgraded. I selected the 6416-2 I have and it created an order and informed me to check back in at the Customer Support->In-home Agent->Exchange Set Top Box exchange to locate the order number. It said 30 minutes, but I checked it just now after about 15 minutes and my order number has been provided.
post #17309 of 17990
Anyone else noticing more microblocking lately? At first I though it could be my TV but I can play the same movie on Blue Ray with no issues. A few nights ago I watched Speed Racer on demand and the microblocking was terrible on fast moving scenes.
post #17310 of 17990
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Originally Posted by TWD View Post

Anyone else noticing more microblocking lately? At first I though it could be my TV but I can play the same movie on Blue Ray with no issues. A few nights ago I watched Speed Racer on demand and the microblocking was terrible on fast moving scenes.
Sounds like a local issue to me. Try the local forum. Some OnDemand movies are very highly compressed. It really depends. If it continues you might want to schedule a service call.
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