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Originally Posted by cinema13 View Post

Very true with the OnDemand choices. However, it's possible that the actual channel might be 5.1....EPIX is like that...stereo via OnDemand but 5.1 on the linear channel. Not enough to get me to watch a cropped movie though.

Actually, although Epix apparently doesn't crop, I don't think they provide 5.1. We started to watch an old favorite, Ronin, and I couldn't figure out why we weren't getting surround action. Then, I realized Epix was only providing 2.0.
post #17342 of 17987
I read a review of the new Sundance series, Top of the Lake, today. When I went to set it up for recording, I was shocked to discover that Sundance is SD only. Does Sundance not have an HD channel, or does FiOS not have it?

Edit: Never mind. I found this info on the Sundance site:
"Congratulations! Sundance Channel is available in your area on Verizon FiOS channel #392.

At this time, Verizon FiOS does not carry Sundance Channel in High Definition. Please click below to request HD in your area."
post #17343 of 17987
Cropping sucks. Thats why I rent bluray and watch original programming and sports on those channels. As for broadcast nets abc is the worst in nyc. Bad quality audio and video.
post #17344 of 17987
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

I read a review of the new Sundance series, Top of the Lake, today. When I went to set it up for recording, I was shocked to discover that Sundance is SD only. Does Sundance not have an HD channel, or does FiOS not have it?

Edit: Never mind. I found this info on the Sundance site:
"Congratulations! Sundance Channel is available in your area on Verizon FiOS channel #392.

At this time, Verizon FiOS does not carry Sundance Channel in High Definition. Please click below to request HD in your area."
Yep, this is one of larger the still-missing HD channels on FIOS. Fingers crossed that it will be part of the upcoming semi-large batch of HD adds that is rumored to be forthcoming.
post #17345 of 17987
Has the cinemax hd audio issues been resolved
post #17346 of 17987
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

Has the cinemax hd audio issues been resolved

What audio issues have there been from Cinemax? I have not noticed any problems.
post #17347 of 17987
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

Actually, although Epix apparently doesn't crop, I don't think they provide 5.1. We started to watch an old favorite, Ronin, and I couldn't figure out why we weren't getting surround action. Then, I realized Epix was only providing 2.0.

Actually, many movies are cropped on EPIX...such as MI:3, CAPT AMERICA, SUPER 8, etc. And they do broadcast in 5.1 but only on the linear channels...the OnDemand section are all just 2.0). As for your comments re: Sundance, although it's true the linear channel is only SD, they have an OnDemand section in HD. Right now, consisting of four movies and some series called STAIRCASE. I know they also had the ICONOCLASTS series, although it's gone now. It's possible that TOP OF THE LAKE might show up in the future, so check in there every now-and-then.
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As for Epix cropping it is mainly newer Paramount titles and it is because they are sent to Epix that way.
Epix requested and got a 2.35:1 OAR version of the 2009 Star Trek film (FX cropped) They also have aired OAR versions of the other Star Trek movies which HBO and even Showtime had cropped.
MGM/UA and Lionsgate are basically OAR.
post #17349 of 17987
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Originally Posted by cinema13 View Post

Actually, many movies are cropped on EPIX...such as MI:3, CAPT AMERICA, SUPER 8, etc. And they do broadcast in 5.1 but only on the linear channels...the OnDemand section are all just 2.0). As for your comments re: Sundance, although it's true the linear channel is only SD, they have an OnDemand section in HD. Right now, consisting of four movies and some series called STAIRCASE. I know they also had the ICONOCLASTS series, although it's gone now. It's possible that TOP OF THE LAKE might show up in the future, so check in there every now-and-then.

Thanks for the info.
post #17350 of 17987
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

What audio issues have there been from Cinemax? I have not noticed any problems.

I have not either.
post #17351 of 17987
Out of all of the hd sporting events that msg broadcasts rangers is in 5.1.
post #17352 of 17987
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

Did anyone receive their upgraded boxes yet? I put in my order about 5 days ago. Today, I tried looking on my account's Order Info page to find the status. There is one order showing from 3/11/2013, but when I click on it to see the details, nothing happens. When I click the Download link, I get a Java error. Meanwhile, the top of the same Order Info page reads:
"Your Service will be begin on: Sun June 09"

Note the syntax.

I received my boxes yesterday. The only downside is that the new boxes don't have any front display. We use the clock on the box in our bedroom. If my wife decrees that we need the clock, I might send one new box back. However, I'm guessing at some point that they'll change more and more channels over to IP, so we'll start lose some channels that we care about on that box.
post #17353 of 17987
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

I received my boxes yesterday. The only downside is that the new boxes don't have any front display. We use the clock on the box in our bedroom. If my wife decrees that we need the clock, I might send one new box back. However, I'm guessing at some point that they'll change more and more channels over to IP, so we'll start lose some channels that we care about on that box.

the channels that are being effected are not going to IPTV instead MPEG4 over QAM so they are still going to be available on all MPEG4 capable devices.
post #17354 of 17987
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Originally Posted by kevin120 View Post

the channels that are being effected are not going to IPTV instead MPEG4 over QAM so they are still going to be available on all MPEG4 capable devices.

Thanks for the clarification. My basic concern stands. Isn't that why they're giving us new boxes - so we won't lose those channels? In other words, we'll need to start using the new box sooner or later, or start losing more channels, right?
post #17355 of 17987
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post


I received my boxes yesterday. The only downside is that the new boxes don't have any front display. We use the clock on the box in our bedroom. If my wife decrees that we need the clock, I might send one new box back. However, I'm guessing at some point that they'll change more and more channels over to IP, so we'll start lose some channels that we care about on that box.

 

Which boxes did you get?  With my exchange I was sent the Moto 7100 and Moto 7232 DVR and both of them have the option to display the time on the front panel.  If you got the P2 versions of the 7100 I guess those don't have the clocks.

 

Laters,

Jeff


Edited by eq_shadimar - 3/20/13 at 11:22am
post #17356 of 17987
How are the dvrs? Im looking into getting one soon.
post #17357 of 17987
I like em....got the 7232.
post #17358 of 17987
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Originally Posted by eq_shadimar View Post

Which boxes did you get?  With my exchange I was sent the Moto 7100 and Moto 7232 DVR and both of them have the option to display the time on the front panel.  If you got the P2 versions of the 7100 I guess those don't have the clocks.

Laters,
Jeff

They sent us 7100 Phase 2 - no display. I'm going to ask Vz if they have an older 7100 that I can have instead.
post #17359 of 17987
Fios now has a channel that's like the old Sneak Prevue channel, showing previews of on demand content. Just like that channel, it's in SD. I hate that AXS.TV shows commercials during movies they show. Also, they reduced their HD signal quite a bit yet the surround sound is pretty good for concerts and live events. At least HDNet movies still shows plenty of OAR movies uncut and ad free with true surround sound and often shows mediocre product released by Mark Cuban's companies, which are rarely seen by many. BeinHD will come in mid april here in nj. Sony movie channel the linear version will arrive soon. Now only if they add more channels in hd after clearing a few hd channels.....i wish there was 3dnet. For the Esquire channel, Fios should offer it in hd.
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I don't watch FIOS HD too much because it does not look very good to me, when they first rolled out FIOS here in NNJ I thought it looked quite good but in the last 2 years I think it is quite bad. I never felt that TWCHD as in Time Warner Cable and not the the weather channel, was great but to my eyes and on my gear it looked better than what I'm seeing on FIOSHD. The most annoying thing is that I can see scan lines in certain areas of the picture such as bright white clothing, it is very strange. I will have to take a photo and post it. If I set my Denon DVP-602CI to output 720P the lines are not as noticeable as they are in 1080i, 1080p60 or 1080p24, its not my TV since I never see it on BluRay in fact BluRay looks amazing on this set a 55" Panny VT50 plasma. So I'm about to call FIOS for a service appointment since this is just too visible and annoying. What are they doing there?mad.gif

The sharpness setting on the Panasonic VT50 was causing this aliasing line artifacts issue. I turned it down to zero and the picture looks much better now. Sorry Verizon, it was not your fault but mine. I still think your promise of "unaltered as received by Verizon HD retransmission" is no longer true and still leaves a lot to be desired but it's all about quantity and not quality here.
Edited by imws - 4/1/13 at 5:47am
post #17361 of 17987
They have always had that channel that is now on ch 339 in the guide.
It was just in the upper left corner while in a on demand menu
post #17362 of 17987
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Originally Posted by imws View Post

I don't watch FIOS HD too much because it does not look very good to me, when they first rolled out FIOS here in NNJ I thought it looked quite good but in the last 2 years I think it is quite bad. I never felt that TWCHD was great but to my eyes and on my gear it looked better than what I'm seeing on FIOSHD. The most annoying thing is that I can see scan lines in certain areas of the picture such as bright white clothing, it is very strange. I will have to take a photo and post it. If I set my Denon DVP-602CI to output 720P the lines are not as noticeable as they are in 1080i, 1080p60 or 1080p24, its not my TV since I never see it on BluRay in fact BluRay looks amazing on this set a 55" Panny VT50 plasma. So I'm about to call FIOS for a service appointment since this is just too visible and annoying. What are they doing there?mad.gif

TWC always look like crap. They're probably sending Verizon an over-compressed feed. But in general, if you're not happy with FIOS HD, there is nothing better. 19mbps MPEG-2 is as high as it gets for HDTV. I supposed some people could prefer a softer picture on DirecTV, but the MPEG-4 compression definitely loses detail compared to FIOS.
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Originally Posted by BiggAW View Post

TWC always look like crap. They're probably sending Verizon an over-compressed feed. But in general, if you're not happy with FIOS HD, there is nothing better. 19mbps MPEG-2 is as high as it gets for HDTV. I supposed some people could prefer a softer picture on DirecTV, but the MPEG-4 compression definitely loses detail compared to FIOS.
If done properly there should be no visual difference between MPEG2 and MPEG4. Besides, FiOS is going to start switching channels to MPEG4 next month. In april, 22 channels will switch to MPEG4. Hopefully more follow soon after that. The more the better since the more channels they switch to MPEG4 the more space they will have to add otherHD channels. Beisdes, many channels are originally sent as MPEG4 and FiOS has been re-encoding them to MPEG2.
post #17364 of 17987
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Originally Posted by BiggAW View Post

TWC always look like crap. They're probably sending Verizon an over-compressed feed. But in general, if you're not happy with FIOS HD, there is nothing better. 19mbps MPEG-2 is as high as it gets for HDTV. I supposed some people could prefer a softer picture on DirecTV, but the MPEG-4 compression definitely loses detail compared to FIOS.

I have both DirecTV & FiOS and the HD picture quality is about as identical as it gets.
post #17365 of 17987
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

If done properly there should be no visual difference between MPEG2 and MPEG4. Besides, FiOS is going to start switching channels to MPEG4 next month. In april, 22 channels will switch to MPEG4. Hopefully more follow soon after that. The more the better since the more channels they switch to MPEG4 the more space they will have to add otherHD channels. Beisdes, many channels are originally sent as MPEG4 and FiOS has been re-encoding them to MPEG2.

Yeah, it's not even MPEG-2 vs. MPEG-4, there's just something weird with the text and graphics on TWC, even though the maps look incredible.
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Originally Posted by BiggAW View Post

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Originally Posted by imws View Post

I don't watch FIOS HD too much because it does not look very good to me, when they first rolled out FIOS here in NNJ I thought it looked quite good but in the last 2 years I think it is quite bad. I never felt that TWCHD was great but to my eyes and on my gear it looked better than what I'm seeing on FIOSHD. The most annoying thing is that I can see scan lines in certain areas of the picture such as bright white clothing, it is very strange. I will have to take a photo and post it. If I set my Denon DVP-602CI to output 720P the lines are not as noticeable as they are in 1080i, 1080p60 or 1080p24, its not my TV since I never see it on BluRay in fact BluRay looks amazing on this set a 55" Panny VT50 plasma. So I'm about to call FIOS for a service appointment since this is just too visible and annoying. What are they doing there?mad.gif

TWC always look like crap. They're probably sending Verizon an over-compressed feed. But in general, if you're not happy with FIOS HD, there is nothing better. 19mbps MPEG-2 is as high as it gets for HDTV. I supposed some people could prefer a softer picture on DirecTV, but the MPEG-4 compression definitely loses detail compared to FIOS.
TWC does not send any feeds to Verizon. So whatever gave you that idea that they did, inquiring minds wish to know. As for a softer picture on DirecTV, that again we all would like to know where you pulled that one out of.

The picture quality is only as good as the feed that the provider is getting, either through Spot beam, Antenna farm for OTA, Fiber to the Studio, or Satellite feed. In turn when providers are trying to cram as much as they can into one QAM, like FiOS, CATV, even Satellite is getting to the point that they have crammed as much as they can into the satellites, and are running out of room, until the technology gets better, or they figure a better process in delivery to the customer through the satellite feed.
Edited by gregzoll - 3/26/13 at 6:54pm
post #17367 of 17987
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Originally Posted by gregzoll View Post

TWC does not send any feeds to Verizon. So whatever gave you that idea that they did, inquiring minds wish to know. As for a softer picture on DirecTV, that again we all would like to know where you pulled that one out of.

The picture quality is only as good as the feed that the provider is getting, either through Spot beam, Antenna farm for OTA, Fiber to the Studio, or Satellite feed. In turn when providers are trying to cram as much as they can into one QAM, like FiOS, CATV, even Satellite is getting to the point that they have crammed as much as they can into the satellites, and are running out of room, until the technology gets better, or they figure a better process in delivery to the customer through the satellite feed.

The Weather Channel, not Time Warner Cable.

Satellite is a little more dynamic than cable where there is a pretty hard limit of how big you can make a cable system.
post #17368 of 17987
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Originally Posted by BiggAW View Post

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Originally Posted by gregzoll View Post

TWC does not send any feeds to Verizon. So whatever gave you that idea that they did, inquiring minds wish to know. As for a softer picture on DirecTV, that again we all would like to know where you pulled that one out of.

The picture quality is only as good as the feed that the provider is getting, either through Spot beam, Antenna farm for OTA, Fiber to the Studio, or Satellite feed. In turn when providers are trying to cram as much as they can into one QAM, like FiOS, CATV, even Satellite is getting to the point that they have crammed as much as they can into the satellites, and are running out of room, until the technology gets better, or they figure a better process in delivery to the customer through the satellite feed.

The Weather Channel, not Time Warner Cable.

Satellite is a little more dynamic than cable where there is a pretty hard limit of how big you can make a cable system.
Actually it would be the complete opposite. Again, unless Direct or Dish launch more satellites, they are limited to the number of feeds that are available to their customers. Most radios in the current birds up there, are for standby, if they loose one of the radios, so they can switch over to the standby.

Keep in mind that there is no more Space Shuttle, so there is no way to maintain them anymore, so they basically wait for them to go out of control of ground control, burn up, and then launch a replacement into space to replace the bird they lost. You do not think that rates are raised by Direct & Dish, just because they want to. Satellites cost money, along with building new ones.
post #17369 of 17987
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Originally Posted by gregzoll View Post

Keep in mind that there is no more Space Shuttle, so there is no way to maintain them anymore
Wow... I never knew that the Government's shuttle program was servicing commercial satellites...
post #17370 of 17987
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Wow... I never knew that the Government's shuttle program was servicing commercial satellites...

Not only that, but the Geosynchronous orbits are around 22,500 miles up. The highest altitude the shuttle ever flew was close to 400 miles.
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