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post #151 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by ISO Perfect HDTV View Post

there is no discernable difference in PQ over VGA compared to DVI and if this TV can function as a PC monitor it should be able to accept 1080p 1:1 over VGA.

HP claims VGA will only support up to 1344x868(or something like it). No one I'm aware of on this forum has any plan to test VGA. Most people buying for 1080P input via HDMI. I run my 20" monitor both ways and I'd say difference is in 20% range. Thats why HDMI evolved from DVI instead of VGA. 5yrs from now you'll be hard pressed to find a VGA input on an monitor of any type. VGA is analog after all, so bye bye CRT-bye bye VGA.
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post #152 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

There is no consensus on this... At large (actually huge) display sizes, I can easily imagine HDMI being superior to VGA.

hope I'm not getting off topic...

The reason I ask is that I'm looking in the 50-58" in range. My options:
1) Samsung(1080p using VGA) with employee discount from local store, or
2) the HP (using HDMI)

Again, if there isn't a visible difference between VGA/HDMI at a ~56" range TV, my hands down choice with be the samsung. Agreed?

thanks-
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post #153 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

There is no consensus on this... At large (actually huge) display sizes, I can easily imagine HDMI being superior to VGA. It also would likely depend on the electronics in the display as well as the quality/compatability of the graphics adapter.

i'm exclusively talking about PC connection, and some of the people that have been able to display 1080p via HTPC (VGA) on their samsung were able to play Windows Media HD 1080p movies and in their own opinion the PQ was amazing.

I'm interested in connecting my PC to one of those 1080p RPTVs via VGA (since i will use the 2 HDMI for Cable and PS3/Blueray) and if HP can match Samsung VGA, with the addition of 1080p over HDMI makes it a better deal to me.
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post #154 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by ISO Perfect HDTV View Post

there is no discernable difference in PQ over VGA compared to DVI and if this TV can function as a PC monitor it should be able to accept 1080p 1:1 over VGA.

Don't forget that there would need to be an extra high speed analogue to digital conversion on any imagined analogue VGA 1080P. Rember that DLP based TVS are all digital, with digital data being, in effect, beamed right into the eye. So there would need to be considerable extra processing, and you have to wonder if that would serve any useful purpose. In making these points, I don't know for sure that it doesn't, though HP says no and I can understand why that might be.
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post #155 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:38am
It looks awesome!! I connected a network cable to the PC and am working off the TV now. I just tested HDMI 2 and it also supports 1080P. I tooka photo of the "calibration" test pattern, but I don't think I am using it properly. The properties of the saved pattern image are only 300 x 340.

The "T2" test is coming next. If anyone wants to send me some games to test out, that would be cool
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post #156 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

The "Info" does display the 1080P input

Awexome. =)
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post #157 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by Crizo View Post

hope I'm not getting off topic...

The reason I ask is that I'm looking in the 50-58" in range. My options:
1) Samsung(1080p using VGA) with employee discount from local store, or
2) the HP (using HDMI)

Again, if there isn't a visible difference between VGA/HDMI at a ~56" range TV, my hands down choice with be the samsung. Agreed?

thanks-

The HLR5668 would not be my choice unless you are talking about getting it for something like $2000. At that price point, I might be tempted. The Samsung seems to be a good display but I've seen what I can only call "distressing noise problems" on a hlr5078. The image just never seems quite stable or something. Its hard for me to describe what I mean. Anyway, you are opening a can of worms with this. I'd just assume not get in a flame war with the Samsung advocates. I'm sure they are very happy with their sets!
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post #158 of 10833
10/20/05 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

It looks awesome!! I connected a network cable to the PC and am working off the TV now. I just tested HDMI 2 and it also supports 1080P. I tooka photo of the "calibration" test pattern, but I don't think I am using it properly. The properties of the saved pattern image are only 300 x 340.

The "T2" test is coming next. If anyone wants to send me some games to test out, that would be cool

Pngpong, in your display properties, set the image to "tile" mode instead of "center". Then take a SS and post it, or just tell us how many times the image is tiled across and down. We'll take it from there =)
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post #159 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

It looks awesome!! I connected a network cable to the PC and am working off the TV now. I just tested HDMI 2 and it also supports 1080P. I tooka photo of the "calibration" test pattern, but I don't think I am using it properly. The properties of the saved pattern image are only 300 x 340.

The "T2" test is coming next. If anyone wants to send me some games to test out, that would be cool

I'm also now getting 1080P on HDMI1 and 2. Old DVI cable wasn't the promblem. You have to use Dualview if primary monitor doesn't go up to 1080P(20" LCD) then check HDTV box for 1080P(several other choices). My card 6800GT(drivers from July) and for some reason identifies my HP as MD5020n(mine is MD5880n)?
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post #160 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:06pm
I watched a bit of the T2 Extreme DVD (at 1920x1200) If this is what we will get with Blu-ray or HD-DVD then it's going to be awesome! Screen shot attached. The darks were perfect - blacks were just as black as the TV case. I'm "extremely" happy
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post #161 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by SteveTiilikainen View Post

If you have any relatives who work for the government and are willing to wait a few weeks, you will be able to get 20% off of the list price, .....

For anyone is waiting for the discount, I just wanted to let you know that with a little effort a healthy dose of luck, you can probably get the 20% now. I made my purchase on Monday and was happily given the discount. On thursady and Friday last week they said no. I was really expecting it to be cancelled but its enroute now. Kinda feels like I won the lottery.
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post #162 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:09pm
is the MD5880N the only 1080p out of the series? what about the MD5020 and MD5820? Are they just 720P? If thats teh case i mightr just buy the 5880 for my room and figure out how im going to fit it later . I want 1080P dangin! The heat output kind of worries me. Also my room can get mighty hot and i dont want that to be the reason why my tv gives out.
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post #163 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:15pm
I count 18 complete images tiled across the screen - with another row of 6 1/3 images, and a column of 4 1/2 images. Is this what you are looking for?
LL
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post #164 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

I count 18 complete images tiled across the screen - with another row of 6 1/3 images, and a column of 4 1/2 images. Is this what you are looking for?

Looks like your picture got cut off. In that picture, it looks like you have 5 across for 1500 pixels and 3.3? down for 1130, but that doesn't seem right.

Edit: Yeah, it's looking cut off. I can see your language bar but not your system tray.
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post #165 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:29pm
I did a screen capture with MS Paint. Here is a photo (though not real clear)
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post #166 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

I watched a bit of the T2 Extreme DVD (at 1920x1200) If this is what we will get with Blu-ray or HD-DVD then it's going to be awesome! Screen shot attached. The darks were perfect - blacks were just as black as the TV case. I'm "extremely" happy

This is very exciting news to me. Thanks for running the test Pngpong! I'll update the first post with your comments!
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post #167 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

I did a screen capture with MS Paint. Here is a photo (though not real clear)

Yeah, that looks about right... works out mathematically too. I assume you had your start bar autohide for the purpose of counting the tiles. =)

Quick question... when you maximize a window, does it look like the title bar or any of the borders get cut off?
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post #168 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by SteveTiilikainen View Post

Yeah, that looks about right... works out mathematically too.

Can you explain how this works out mathematically?
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post #169 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:39pm
The L/R borders are good, but I need to scroll down a bit to see the bottom. This is with the HP Aspect set to "PC"
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post #170 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

The L/R borders are good, but I need to scroll down a bit to see the bottom. This is with the HP Aspect set to "PC"

It would be cool to play a MMORPG on a 65" display

I'm tempted to splurge on a new graphics card

I wonder how bad something like WOW would run on this setup at that resolution?
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post #171 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

It would be cool to play a MMORPG on a 65" display

I'm tempted to splurge on a new graphics card

Yeah, it would. I know better than to delve back into the world of MMORPGs though. I used to have a 60-hour-a-week habit.
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post #172 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by SteveTiilikainen View Post

Yeah, it would. I know better than to delve back into the world of MMORPGs though. I used to have a 60-hour-a-week habit.

I hear you... I retired from MMORPGs a couple years ago too!
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post #173 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by SteveTiilikainen View Post

Yeah, it would. I know better than to delve back into the world of MMORPGs though. I used to have a 60-hour-a-week habit.

N00b
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post #174 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

It would be cool to play a MMORPG on a 65" display
I'm tempted to splurge on a new graphics card
I wonder how bad something like WOW would run on this setup at that resolution?

I am running WoW on my Sammy HLM507W at 720p and it's gorgeous. Can't wait to get my hands on the HP and run it at 1080P !! I had to upgrade to 2 Gig or RAM on my machine to not notice any lag in Ironforge. I have the X800XT from ATI, and it runs flawlessly. I'm sure it will continue to run flawlessly at 1920x1080.

- Sepia
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post #175 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:51pm
I wish I had a better camera
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post #176 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by JoeInNVa View Post

N00b

twink.
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post #177 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by Crizo View Post

Can you explain how this works out mathematically?

The image is 300x340, and it looks like it's tiled ~6.5x3.2, which works out to ~1920x1080

~ = about or approx.
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post #178 of 10833
10/20/05 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

The L/R borders are good, but I need to scroll down a bit to see the bottom. This is with the HP Aspect set to "PC"

Ah. Is your video card still putting out 1920x1200 in the windows screenshots?
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post #179 of 10833
10/20/05 at 1:00pm
Im wanting this tv more and more. You guys are killing me. This tv woujld be great with my x800 xt pe.
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post #180 of 10833
10/20/05 at 1:06pm
Yes, 1920x1200. I just changed the refresh settings from 60 to 85 HZ. It accepts it, but it doesn't seem to make any difference in the picture. No flicker at all in either setting.
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