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post #211 of 10880
OK, guys now that I hooked up my PeeCee to the TV - I'm hooked It seems to me that playing DVD's through HTPC is the way to go for now. I can get 1080P resolution vs. 480i through my DVD player. Games are awesome on the PC - why would I want to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 when a HTPC can do the same thing? I can display photos from the HTPC, record programs from my All-in-wonder to my hard disk, and play MP3's to my A/V receiver. Am I missing something? Why isn't everyone hooking up their PC's?
post #212 of 10880
Got my 5880 at 8:00 PM last night, Noth American delivered it to wrong house 100 miles away. White glove install amost turned to brown shorts! I am incredibly happy! Wife's response was "great, now I have to figure out another @#%* remote."

Any body figure out what remote code operates HP md5880n? I would like dish 942 remote to control md5880n volume (and whatever else it might understand).

How about a code so md5880n remote can operate echostar/dish 942?

Gotta raise the WAF so I can start the surround sound purchase!!!
post #213 of 10880
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Originally Posted by dk0r View Post


AWESOME
!! I signed up as a fulltime college student and it knocked the price down $800 bucks! Killer! Thanks Lorelevitt

I don't think I'm making friends at HP telling everyone where to find the academic and federal discount links....but if they're going to offer them and the person legitimately qualifies... they should get the discount!
post #214 of 10880
It's good to hear all you guys having positive reviews of the new HP DLPs.

Something is bothering me though. There are numerous people here, plus the S&V review saying these DLPs are the "best" so far in terms of feature set and PQ.

But I just finished some Sony threads, filled with posts audaciously claiming that Sony's SXRD and JVC's D-ILAs are the "absolute best" MDTVs in the market right now, and using phrases like "everyone in the business is agreeing" about how good the Sony's and JVC's are, whereas HP and Samsung's DLPs are the "lower second class."

I live in Canada and unfortunately they don't have the HPs for sale yet here. I wish I could see the PQ for myself and dispel some of these damaging rumours about HP TVs.
post #215 of 10880
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Originally Posted by avsscientist View Post

It's good to hear all you guys having positive reviews of the new HP DLPs.

Something is bothering me though. There are numerous people here, plus the S&V review saying these DLPs are the "best" so far in terms of feature set and PQ.

But I just finished some Sony threads, filled with posts audaciously claiming that Sony's SXRD and JVC's D-ILAs are the "absolute best" MDTVs in the market right now, and using phrases like "everyone in the business is agreeing" about how good the Sony's and JVC's are, whereas HP and Samsung's DLPs are the "lower second class."

I live in Canada and unfortunately they don't have the HPs for sale yet here. I wish I could see the PQ for myself and dispel some of these damaging rumours about HP TVs.

I for one don't care what "everyone else" in the Sony threads say. I've not seen the SXRD but I have seen the Qualia alot. Beautiful set. Not as good as the 1080p HP sets. At least, that is my initial thought on it. I haven't had time to torture this TV yet though.

BTW, don't believe everything you read... there are many who frequently post here at AVS with obvious agendas.
post #216 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

I wish I had a better camera

Also running PC on 5880. On other sources where panorama is an option have you noticed it's an equalateral stretch(more of a zoom realy) and clips bottom of screen, particularily news scrolls?
post #217 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

It looks awesome!! I connected a network cable to the PC and am working off the TV now. I just tested HDMI 2 and it also supports 1080P. I tooka photo of the "calibration" test pattern, but I don't think I am using it properly. The properties of the saved pattern image are only 300 x 340.

The "T2" test is coming next. If anyone wants to send me some games to test out, that would be cool

Already ran "FAR CRY", "BATTLEFIELDII", "MEDAL OF HONOR" - all run great up to 1920X1080. No game lag. No audio synch problems.
post #218 of 10880
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

Also running PC on 5880. On other sources where panorama is an option have you noticed it's an equalateral stretch(more of a zoom realy) and clips bottom of screen, particularily news scrolls?

I thought the Panorama mode left the middle portion of the picture normal and only stretched out the sides. I liked this aspect for filling the screen better than the Wide option - which does the equalateral stretch you described.
post #219 of 10880
I just noticed some link sync problems watch a SD program off my dvr. What causes that? Is there anyway to fix it? Could my unit be defective since no one else seems to experience it???
post #220 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

This is a SS from Quake III in 1920 x 1080. Very impressive

Which of the four picture modes are you running your games in. Studio and movie look quite film like at 1080P.
post #221 of 10880
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Originally Posted by ISO Perfect HDTV View Post

so why is EVERY 1080p RPTV coming out with one of them if they are sooo.......like you say.........bye bye?

bye bye

Well highest end video card already port to DVI's. Next year will include HDMI. We'll see VGA's until this generation of computers replaced 2-4yrs. It's not that I have anything against VGA,,but DVI and now HDMI makes more sense.
post #222 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

This is a SS from Quake III in 1920 x 1080. Very impressive

Is the info bar at the bottom of the screen only temporarily on? Thanks.
post #223 of 10880
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Originally Posted by TheDigger View Post

I just noticed some link sync problems watch a SD program off my dvr. What causes that? Is there anyway to fix it? Could my unit be defective since no one else seems to experience it???

I'm guessing you're sending the audio to your receiver. When you send video to the TV and audio to a receiver, the video takes longer to process (scaling and any image enhancement) than the audio. The receiver processes the audio much quicker, thus they become out of sync. Many receivers have an audio delay feature that will help correct lip sync. Other products like the Felston provide audio delay that is easily configured via a remote as lip sync tends to vary from source to source. If you are using the TV speakers then it would seem that HP didn't delay the audio during its image processing but that would be a fairly major oversight.
post #224 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

I thought the Panorama mode left the middle portion of the picture normal and only stretched out the sides. I liked this aspect for filling the screen better than the Wide option - which does the equalateral stretch you described.

Go to CNN,FOX, or CNBC-anything with a scroll on SD or digital. Panorama supposed to work exactly as you stated but I'm getting clip at top and bottom.
post #225 of 10880
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I'm guessing you're sending the audio to your receiver. When you send video to the TV and audio to a receiver, the video takes longer to process (scaling and any image enhancement) than the audio. The receiver processes the audio much quicker, thus they become out of sync. Many receivers have an audio delay feature that will help correct lip sync. Other products like the Felston provide audio delay that is easily configured via a remote as lip sync tends to vary from source to source. If you are using the TV speakers then it would seem that HP didn't delay the audio during its image processing but that would be a fairly major oversight.

You are correct, I am running the sound through a receiver. Thanks.
post #226 of 10880
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Originally Posted by davenrino View Post

Is the info bar at the bottom of the screen only temporarily on? Thanks.

YES. Or push on, push off. Also when doing manual picture adjustments shows above(good feature).
post #227 of 10880
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

Which of the four picture modes are you running your games in. Studio and movie look quite film like at 1080P.

I set the aspect to PC and ran Quake in full screen.
post #228 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Pngpong View Post

I set the aspect to PC and ran Quake in full screen.

No- I meant the four options for picture(2 up circle from aspect button). Normal, vivid,movie and studio.
post #229 of 10880
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Originally Posted by TheDigger View Post

I just noticed some link sync problems watch a SD program off my dvr. What causes that? Is there anyway to fix it? Could my unit be defective since no one else seems to experience it???

I saw the same thing too. I just got the "Moxi" and watched a pre-recorded program where the lip sync was noticably out. My video and sound are going into the HP through Component 2 input. I was concerned, but I think it is a "cable" problem. When watching SD on my CRT TV it too is slightly out of sync. I think it is worse going through the DVR though. DVD syncs up perfectly.

Anyone else see this?
post #230 of 10880
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

No- I meant the four options for picture(2 up circle from aspect button). Normal, vivid,movie and studio.

Cool, I completely forgot about those options I'm not even sure what it was set at.
post #231 of 10880
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

Go to CNN,FOX, or CNBC-anything with a scroll on SD or digital. Panorama supposed to work exactly as you stated but I'm getting clip at top and bottom.

Same thing here. It clips the scroll completely.
post #232 of 10880
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Originally Posted by avsscientist View Post

It's good to hear all you guys having positive reviews of the new HP DLPs.

Something is bothering me though. There are numerous people here, plus the S&V review saying these DLPs are the "best" so far in terms of feature set and PQ.

But I just finished some Sony threads, filled with posts audaciously claiming that Sony's SXRD and JVC's D-ILAs are the "absolute best" MDTVs in the market right now, and using phrases like "everyone in the business is agreeing" about how good the Sony's and JVC's are, whereas HP and Samsung's DLPs are the "lower second class."

I live in Canada and unfortunately they don't have the HPs for sale yet here. I wish I could see the PQ for myself and dispel some of these damaging rumours about HP TVs.

I have been following all of the Sony SXRD forums from the beginning and there was no noticable criticism toward DLP expecially the HP, most people are just praising how great their sets are..and i saw one today at BB and it is the best RPTV I have seen so far. Of course i have not seen the HP and JVC yet.
The only criticism or put down i read, was from somebody who consider wobbulation (i hope i spelled it right) as a cheap trick to acheive 1080p which for purists is not real 1080p. Which to me is a bogus argument cause if it looks amazing to your eyes and it can display every pixel of it that's good enough to me
post #233 of 10880
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

Well highest end video card already port to DVI's. Next year will include HDMI. We'll see VGA's until this generation of computers replaced 2-4yrs. It's not that I have anything against VGA,,but DVI and now HDMI makes more sense.

of course i agree with HDMI being the future, my point was only that VGA still can display a great computer PQ and if i can use it for my HTPC i still have the 2 superior HDMI free for my Cable and PS3.

So pretty please with sugar on top, if anybody can test and tell me if the VGA port can display full screen 1080p with no overscan, I would appreciate it very much and go haed and order my HP.
post #234 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Sharon's Lee View Post

Can the 1080 be purchased from HP and then extended warranty from TVA, elsewhere?
THANKS!

Yes. It looks like almost every AV dealer on the internet offers the RepairMaster warranty in either the 2 or 4 year version. Most of the RepairMaster bulb policies are only sold by the seller of the HDTV.
post #235 of 10880
I'm looking to purchase the 58" HP and have a few questions.

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Originally Posted by GoobTheNoob View Post

I'm guessing you're sending the audio to your receiver. When you send video to the TV and audio to a receiver, the video takes longer to process (scaling and any image enhancement) than the audio. The receiver processes the audio much quicker, thus they become out of sync. Many receivers have an audio delay feature that will help correct lip sync. Other products like the Felston provide audio delay that is easily configured via a remote as lip sync tends to vary from source to source. If you are using the TV speakers then it would seem that HP didn't delay the audio during its image processing but that would be a fairly major oversight.

Prescribing to the same method above (audio to receiver & video to TV) what solutions are possible when my receiver (YAMAHA RX-V730) does not possess an 'audio delay' feature? I'm unsure if lipsync will be a problem, but if it be then what solutions are there? I'm a bit confused on this..
Do you, for example, run the audio from your dvd player through the display and then back to your receiver? And if so, would that not then require a number of audio in/out's on the display for a multitude of different sources?(cablebox/dvr,pc,consoles). That doesn't seem practical. So how does one resolve the prospective lip sync problem?


I intend to use this display as a HTPC, especially for gaming, and am wondering how this display will handle over/under-scan issues?

Also, 1.Are over/under-scan issues just TV dependent? or are they Video Card dependent, or both?
2.What kind of video card are you using? 3.Are you using DVI to HDMI, or straight VGA ? and 4.Would using DVI to HDMI or straight VGA have an affect on over/under-scan issues?

-Thanks
post #236 of 10880
I am primarily a HTPC user. It's the reason I bought this TV. I don't even have cable or a standalone DVD player hooked up right now.

After using the set for the night I must say I'm more than pleased. As a monitor this set will work better than any other on the market right now. It has a built in PC Aspect which gives you no over or underscan AND 1:1 pixel mapping at 1920X1080. It has a built it toggle between Video and PC grayscale levels.

I can't say anything about the VGA port, as I see no reason not to connect my PC (with x800 Pro vid card) through DVI-HDMI. DVDs look superb using Zoomplayer with DScaler and FFDShow (upscaling to 1080p).

Battlefield 2 looks absolutely insane. I can't describe how lush and detailed everything looks, and how the water shimmers as it catches the light just so... The PQ on this set is so good that it makes the Toshiba 62HMX94 I was using last week put on a dunce cap and cry in the corner. I can hardly believe the graphics I'm seeing now are coming from the same source as when I saw them on the Tosh set.

Oh, and I've tested it with Tekken 5 on PS2 and Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube. Zero lag. This set doesn't need a game mode like the Toshibas, it simply doesn't have a latency problem at all with game consoles.

I've seen SXRD at Huppins (online known as Onecall) and I must say I'm impressed. To me this looks just as good though, and with the 1080p over HDMI it definately was the better choice for my needs (HTPC user).

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Originally Posted by dk0r View Post

I intend to use this display as a HTPC, especially for gaming, and am wondering how this display will handle over/under-scan issues?

Also, 1.Are over/under-scan issues just TV dependent? or are they Video Card dependent, or both?
2.What kind of video card are you using? 3.Are you using DVI to HDMI, or straight VGA ? and 4.Would using DVI to HDMI or straight VGA have an affect on over/under-scan issues?

All I know is that if you send this TV a 1920X1080 60 Hz signal from your PC with DVI-HDMI and put the set on PC Aspect Ratio and PC DVI Color, it will correcly give you 1:1 pixel mapping at 1080p with no over/underscan and correct PC level grayscale (1-255). Any newer ATI or NVidia graphics card with the latest drivers will be able to do this, and if you didn't have a newer card you wouldn't be able to run games in 1920X1080 anyways (it's roughtly equivalent to running in the more common 1600X1200 in terms of framerates).

Battlefield 2 looks better on this TV than it does on my 19" Sony LCD monitor. I look forward to years of insane gaming on this set.
post #237 of 10880
I'm still wondering about black & white films on the TV and are people seeing any rainbows at all. Anybody got "Sin City" and could it a try?

Also, I asked about the bars/pillars on the sides of 4:3 films shown in their correct aspect. Are the bars gray or black? Do you have choice?

Thanks for any answers.
post #238 of 10880
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Originally Posted by Franchot View Post

I'm still wondering about black & white films on the TV and are people seeing any rainbows at all. Anybody got "Sin City" and could it a try?

Also, I asked about the bars/pillars on the sides of 4:3 films shown in their correct aspect. Are the bars gray or black? Do you have choice?

Thanks for any answers.

Sin City was one of the first DVDs I watched, and saw zero rainbows...movie looked awesome on the HP set. I had watched a bit of it on my old RP LCD (Panny 60") and on the HP it was an entirely wonderfully better experience...

FYI...I don't normally see rainbows.
post #239 of 10880
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

I for one don't care what "everyone else" in the Sony threads. I've not seen the SXRD but I have seen the Qualia alot. Beautiful set. Not as good as the 1080p HP sets. At least, that is my initial thought on it. I haven't had time to torture this TV yet though.

BTW, don't believe everything you read... there are many who frequently post here at AVS with obvious agendas.

Thanks for dispelling the rumours and the reassurance. I have found the HP crowd to be more logical, objective, and honest, compared to the Sony and Samsung threads actually.

btw, I have seen the SXRD in bestbuy, they look quite stunning, the best compared to all the DLPs in store. I am still looking forward to the HP though, cause it has the winning feature set, and design.
post #240 of 10880
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

I've not seen the SXRD but I have seen the Qualia alot. Beautiful set. Not as good as the 1080p HP sets.


That's a bold statement.. I actually have went to 3 different stores to compare SXRD with DLP, I have to be sure before I buy a set, believe me the salesmen are getting tired of seeing me I think haha.. anyways, I think the SXRD's are the clear winners this season, although I thought the 720 DLP's where much better then Sony's last year, this year is different,

with all of that said, I really really want to see the new HP's, and went around to BB, CC tonight hoping to get lucky and see one, nothing yet, I really like HP's modern approach and PC compatibility is important to me.... I guess ill just keep an eye here to see when they start hitting the stores..
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