The Official HP Pavilion 1080P DLP Owner's Thread - Page 9

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad to hear I should have no overscan issues. What about viewing DVD's through the PC? This too has no issues? Are DVD's played or upscaled or 'whatevered' into 1080p ?

Thanks

You're correct, the Panorama on the MDTV units do not stretch the image horizontally only. There is also a slight stretch vertically. This will be passed along.

The pillar bars are black. I have not come across anyway to change these.

What about the lip-sync matter???


Can someone please chime in on the above? I'd like to order my display

First off there are NO reports that there is an internal delay if the TV is fed and puts out the sound and the picture.

There have been a couple of people with lag where they have sent sound from source to receiver and video to the TV due to slight but noticeable processing differences in the audio and video.

Solutions:
1) Audio delay built in the receiver
2) External audio delayer such as the Felston unit
3) Run audio through TV then to receiver (this is possible on the HP which has multiple sound inputs for every video input, HDMI audio runs in the same cable, and the digital coaxial out) through the TV's digital out.

You do not need mulitple out because you only listen to one sound source at a time, you only need mulitple ins and one digital out which the HP has.

All you have to do now is make sure that HP passes 5.1 through HDMI to the coax audio out, and I do not know for sure what the answer is to that and will leave it to the owners.

Lip sync is a know problem with this technology. It's not exclusive to HP. Samsung has the problem, as do other manufacturers to a lesser degree.

If it's a problem in your situation you buy something to fix it. Felston sells a unit that works, or you buy a receiver with the delay feature built in. If you like the Yamaha RX-V line, I believe lip sync is built into models as far down as the entry level RX-V457 with 0-160 millisecond delay.

Any owners know if 5.1 through HDMI to the coax audio out??? I'm unsure where I saw it, but I believe I read that is does not. Can an owner please confirm?



When you say built in, does that mean theres no on/off option and the delay feature is automated?!?

The lip sync feature is built into the Yamaha receiver. You don't need an external device. The lip sync feature is adjustable from zero to 160 milliseconds on the receiver mentioned.

I have ran through the entire Yamaha RX-V730 manual which can be viewed by clicking HERE and the only reference to delay that I can find is on Page 48("SP Delay Time") and it affects only the center channel. When you have the PDF rxv730 manual open, hit control+f (command+f on mac) and you will be givin a search dialogue box in which you can search for words through the entire PDF. Please let me know how I access this feature on my receiver, as I cannot find it in the manual

/me prays poor documentation for the sake of wallet!

Why would you want gray bars?

The original idea behind having grey bars on sets was to avoid uneven screen wear with RP-CRT technologies (and I guess older plasmas as well). Since DLP-based sets are free from burn-in problems, I don't see a need for gray bars in addition to black ones. If you're going to watch something in 4x3, I would prefer black bars which should blend better with the black bezel and be less distracting to the viewer.

That's because it's an old model

Dana. I would contact Harmony directly. They helped me with some problems I had with my Tosh 34HFX84 input switching. It did have "next input" but I beleive they used something differently.

After reading that, I then commented (assuming that if the RX-V line as far down as the RX-V457 has the 0-160 milisecond delay, than my RX-V730 would also have it) that I could not find the feature listed in the manual. You now tell me I cannot find the feature due to the following...


But I thought that the delay feature was supported as far back as the entry level RX-V457? My RX-V730 should then have this feature, no?

I'm not following you at all. Please clarify

dkOr

First of all, I'm sure we're boring people with this receiver discussion in the HP forum. This is my last post on the subject.

The receiver you own is OLD. It is a discontinued model. It does not have the lip sync feature. The entry level RX-V457 is a newer model than yours. The fact that it is a lower numbered model is irrelevant.

Your model is about four years old. It doesn't matter when you bought it, it's still a four year old model. I'll repeat what I said in the first post to you.

"If it's a problem (lip sync) you buy something to fix it. Felston sells a unit that works, or you buy a receiver with the delay feature built in."

I'm sorry for any confusion in my posts. I thought I was pretty clear.

Cheers

I'd say Samsung is probably the worst offender. I have the Samsung 6168 and recently went from pure HTPC (no lip sync issues) to a HD DirecTV DVR only to find lip sync issues. The Samsung has optical audio out but only passes 5.1 if the source is from OTA or CableCard. I went with the Felston and have been very happy with it. Hopefully the HP guys were smarter and pass 5.1 for all inputs.

Congrats on the new sets, it sounds like they are very nice!

Yep. I own a Samsung 6168 as well. If you feed it a good source it really is outstanding. I do still have the option to return the set to Best Buy for a full refund.

The 1080p over HDMI seems to be resolved with this HP, so matching the Samsung's ability over VGA. The 5.1 issue you mention is another feature I'm interested in knowing about with the HP. Anyone??

Darrell:

Thanks for the excellent work on the front end of this thread...very useful!

You might want to separate defects (e.g., Pano cutting off the bottom of the screen and slow channel changes) from enhancements (e.g., add EPG).

Anyway, either add to "like to see fixed" category or put in a "missing/desired features" category:

1. Update the "Info" display so that it displays info on the second window in PIP and split sreen modes - at a minimum identify the source of the secondary window.

2. Update the "Info" function so that it clears any channel commands entered but not executed by the set...e.g., if I am changing channels and hit 55 instead of 57, hitting the "Info" button should cancel the channel command so I can start over and not have the set switch to the wrong channel.

Yeah...I know what you mean. Companies *pay* for this type of information.

Oops...forgot other part about the "Info" display, Darrell.

On number 1, above...the Info display should also report the current Aspect setting (panorama, zoomed, etc.), at a minimum when in full-screen mode.

Thanks for all the replies from everybody. You people have really won me over. I was thinking of buying a big plasma at twice the price of the HP, but now...

Here's another question:

Anyone get a dead or "bum" TV out of the box? I haven't read about any of these problems from anybody. (Of course, there aren't many of these TV out there yet, either.) So far, the the quality control on these TVs seems to be excellent.

AKaSTP Great post this thread is very good right now and hope it stays this way. I think this thread has sold me this TV and now it is just a matter of pulling the trigger which I am getting close to doing. This is a 50th birthady present for me which is still 6 months away so not sure how the wife will react to getting it so quickly need to set the expectations a little more with her but she has greed to a new tv so the hard part is done.

My 5880 arrived this morning. I had to rush immediately off to work, not to mention that you really shouldn't turn it on right after you move it from a cold environment to a warm one (condensation forms, and it needs to sit a while to evaporate), so I couldn't even turn it on. So I'm hoping it works. I'm glad it's finally here but still nervous. And my living room is an absolute dump.

I love the styling on the TV (and the stand, which is undamaged! Things be praised!). The cabling system is also awesome... although, I still have to run power cords out of the back of the stand, but I can hardly hold HP responsible for that. =)

I'll be testing it with...
1) Xbox over Y/Pb/Pr
2) DVD over Y/Pb/Pr
3) PC over DVI-HDMI
4) Laptop/Roland KR-7 over VGA
5) Cox HDTV box - don't know what they're going to give me as far as cabling. I'm hoping they give me a DVI-HDMI cable, but that may be asking for too much. =(

Owners:

I have brought this up once before, but I don't think people had their sets up and running yet. I am phonecall away from ordering the 65". (the discounts are back!) But my viewing distance will only be about 8'-9'. I don't want to ruin the experience by having to view the 65" too close. I would rather have the 58" looking great than the 65" and see pixels and artifacts. But I imagine that 1080p material could be viewed closer than 720p too!

How close are you guys to your sets? What's a min distance from the 65"?

Thanks...


SNAKE

JakeSnake,

I have read that you should be 1 1/2-2ft away per foot of your tv. Example if you have a 60 inch which is 5ft you should be 7 1/2-10ft away.