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post #61 of 10882
Darrell that is great that everyone that see's this TV is blown away it is making it easier for me to decide on what I want to do.
post #62 of 10882
Aside from the DLP Engine (built by TI - With HP Wobulation Technology) the TV is designed and built by HP. It is uniquely HP with the thumbnail source selection, the front connect panel, the USB firmware update capability and Wobulation.

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Originally Posted by ISO Perfect HDTV View Post

looking at the design i would say it's an LG
post #63 of 10882
Thread Starter 
I updated the first post in this thread with info, open questions, problems, device compatability, etc.

Please help me keep it accurate and updated.

Thanks,
Darrell
post #64 of 10882
Is it a problem that 1080i/p over the component cables are only 24 or 30fps instead of 60? Is the difference noticeable?
post #65 of 10882
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Originally Posted by TheDigger View Post

Is it a problem that 1080i/p over the component cables are only 24 or 30fps instead of 60? Is the difference noticeable?

Another good question that should probably be added to the list.
post #66 of 10882
Hello everyone, I am a new member and was wondering if anyone knows if TVA is going to have a power buy for the HP anytime soon. Thanks and kept up the great posts.
post #67 of 10882
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Originally Posted by Afergy View Post

Not sure if it's appropriate to ask this question, but I'm going to anyway......For those of you who've taken the plunge, what is the price on this beast?

Is discusion of price considered inappropriate in the forum?

I am waiting patiently for my 5580 delivery in the next 2 hours. HPshopping gave me a 10% ($400) discount off the $3999.99 price when I mentioned the J&R price (which was $3599) and asked when a B&M would have a set to see in person. They gave me a coupon code. They also have free delivery and no sales tax. They would not offer a discount on the stand. Did any non Govt discount buyers get offered any discount?

As others have mentioned, FedEx destroyed the stand box in shipping. The box was in 4 pieces and parts fell out as I tried to load it into the car when I picked it up after missing them on the home delivery. I have a very minor scratch on the back, so I consider myself lucky.
post #68 of 10882
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Originally Posted by MrNerdery View Post

Aside from the DLP Engine (built by TI - With HP Wobulation Technology) the TV is designed and built by HP. It is uniquely HP with the thumbnail source selection, the front connect panel, the USB firmware update capability and Wobulation.

These TV's are spec'd by HP but designed and built by Coretronic , one of the largest projector and rear projection TV manufacturers.
post #69 of 10882
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Originally Posted by tg.fla View Post

As others have mentioned, FedEx destroyed the stand box in shipping. The box was in 4 pieces and parts fell out as I tried to load it into the car when I picked it up after missing them on the home delivery. I have a very minor scratch on the back, so I consider myself lucky.

You were lucky. For me, the bottom board of the stand was cracked and not usable, not to mention the other nicks and dings. It looked like someone had taken a sledge to some of the pieces, and the box was ripped open in multiple places. What they should have done was offer white glove delivery of both the stand AND the TV. This is for a $500 stand.

I can't stand FedEx. Their "delivery window" policy is atrocious. It's not that I want them to tell me that they will come deliver my package at exactly 4:37pm. But for God's sake, the best they can do is give me a four-hour window *on a weekday*? And they don't deliver before 8 or after 5, nor on weekends.

If there are any visible marks on the replacement stand, it's going back and I'll get something elsewhere for $200 less.
post #70 of 10882
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Originally Posted by Abdull6 View Post

I plan on ordering the HP 65inch 1080p TV very soon...just waiting to hear a couple more reviews and some confirmation on any video game lag..

my question is...what would be the 'ideal/best' way to hook up all of the following to this new beast... XBOX (soon to be XBOX 360), PS2 (months away will be PS3), SA HD8300 cable pvr (from Time Warner), and a new high end DVD player to be determined.

Right now I have PS2 hooked up with svideo/ xbox with component / and the SA HD8300 component/ I run it thru my Yamaha receiver and then optical to my present TV (phillips 42inch plasma, which is heading to the bedroom soon).

I must admit I love reading all the stuff here but sometimes find myself overwhelmed by the way all of this gets hooked up...

also what would a video scaler do for me and should it be something i consider considering all of the above.

any help or suggestions would be much appreciated

thanks in advance

tom

Abdull,

I plan on having the exact same setup as you will have here is how I am going to set it up.

Cable Box - HDMI optical audio to receiver
XBOX 360- VGA (maybe included component) audio to receiver
Playstation 2 - S Video
High End DVD Player (future PS3 for me) - HDMI

HOWEVER, I will not be getting a high end DVD player to run with my set. I will get by with the XBOX 360 DVD player until the PS3 is released with Blueray, and I will connect it with HDMI. I just see no reason in dropping big cash on a nice DVD player before the next gen players (HD DVD or Blueray depending on how you lean) come out. PS3 has been confirmed for 1080p HDMI output. I also did not include a normal XBOX input connection becasue based on the supply of these HP's I doubt that unless you already have one ordered you will not get it before you get your XBOX 360 when it is released on Nov. 22nd.

ALSO, if you really want a 1080p HDMI DVD player before the PS3 then maybe check this one out, as I believe it is the only affordable one currently available. http://www.neuneo.com/body/product/HVD2085/feature.asp Be wary though, even it requires a firmware upgrade to upconvert to 1080p, but it only costs $250 which is MUCH less than others. There just is not a big demand since the HP is currently the only TV that takes 1080p over HDMI!
post #71 of 10882
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Originally Posted by falsedawn View Post

These TV's are spec'd by HP but designed and built by Coretronic , one of the largest projector and rear projection TV manufacturers.


What is important is the specs and the design and of course, an appropriate non disclosure agreement to protect proprietary aspects. Quite a few firms around the world can build almost anything to a set of design specs, including HP, which is one of the world's largest mfgrs of all sorts of things.
post #72 of 10882
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Originally Posted by flashgordon333 View Post

Cable Box - HDMI optical audio to receiver
XBOX 360- VGA (maybe included component) audio to receiver
Playstation 2 - S Video
High End DVD Player (future PS3 for me) - HDMI

Xbox: Component/S-Video (is there a quality difference?)
Roland KR-7: VGA (I have a KVM switch; we'll see how well that works with a TV if I end up using VGA for the XBOX)
HTPC: nVidia 6800 GT DVI->HDMI
Xbox 360 (future): VGA/Component (quality depending)

I don't yet have a fancy pro-scan DVD player. Would I need to get DVDs that specifically take advantage of that?
post #73 of 10882
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Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post

My kids have a PS2. Will that prove anything? I really don't play games very often but my kids do. If this will help, I'll let them connect the PS2 for a few seconds

DarrellH... I'd greatly appreciate hearing any sort of feedback on any sort of sync issues with your new HP set while playing a PS2 game.
post #74 of 10882
Just posted on the 1080P over HDMI forum. Ran FAR CRY, MEDAL of HONOR and BATTLEFIELD II on PC at 1920x1080, 1600x1200, 1600x1024 all ran great. By way this over HDMI. You have add'l PC aspect along with others. Even windows looks great. PIP needs dual tuner.
post #75 of 10882
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Originally Posted by john stephens View Post

What is important is the specs and the design and of course, an appropriate non disclosure agreement to protect proprietary aspects. Quite a few firms around the world can build almost anything to a set of design specs, including HP, which is one of the world's largest mfgrs of all sorts of things.

Sorry, I don't understand your point. I was merely correcting MrNerdery's statement that HP designed and built the sets. I was saying nothing negative about HP; in fact, I own an HP DeskJet printer, Photosmart printer, Omnibook PC and several HP calculators.
post #76 of 10882
Boy and their toys!

I am jealous. I am thinking about 65" but wall to wall is exactly 11'. Throw a couch and the TV in there and you are down to about 8-9' actual viewing distance.

Should I just go with the 58"? For those that have the new 58 or 65: What are your viewing distances? Thanks.


ps DarrellH- you said you were viewing SD in 1080i and it looked great. Do you have an external scaler or is the TV converting the SD to 1080i? Thanks.


Oh yeah, did I mention how much I hate all you "owners"!
post #77 of 10882
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Originally Posted by JakeSnake View Post

Boy and their toys!

I am jealous. I am thinking about 65" but wall to wall is exactly 11'. Throw a couch and the TV in there and you are down to about 8-9' actual viewing distance.

Should I just go with the 58"? For those that have the new 58 or 65: What are your viewing distances? Thanks.


ps DarrellH- you said you were viewing SD in 1080i and it looked great. Do you have an external scaler or is the TV converting the SD to 1080i? Thanks.


Oh yeah, did I mention how much I hate all you "owners"!

Same here, my viewing distance is 8.5 feet, and according to this, we look good at that distance:
http://www.myhometheater.homestead.c...alculator.html

- Sepia
post #78 of 10882
falsedawn,

OK. I guess I misunderstood your point.
post #79 of 10882
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

Just posted on the 1080P over HDMI forum. Ran FAR CRY, MEDAL of HONOR and BATTLEFIELD II on PC at 1920x1080, 1600x1200, 1600x1024 all ran great. By way this over HDMI. You have add'l PC aspect along with others. Even windows looks great. PIP needs dual tuner.

Can you Elaborate on what you tested. This was HDMI, right? Were you able to actually do 1920x1080 at 60FPS? How were you able to confirm it was 60FPS if that was the case? Were you able to eliminate the overscan? Is there any overscan on this set? Did you try the other inputs? Did 1080p look significantly better than 1080i or 720p?
post #80 of 10882
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd View Post

Can you Elaborate on what you tested. This was HDMI, right? Were you able to actually do 1920x1080 at 60FPS? How were you able to confirm it was 60FPS if that was the case? Were you able to eliminate the overscan? Is there any overscan on this set? Did you try the other inputs? Did 1080p look significantly better than 1080i or 720p?

Let me make a suggestion. Some of the information that is being asked for is not that easy to extract from windows. I'll give some pointers but I believe some of the answers to these questions will require external software (i.e. powerstrip, etc). So, if you ask someone to check out something, try to explain to them how to do so. Does that make sense?

Anyway, if you go into Display Properties->Advanced->Monitor, uncheck the box that says "Hide Unsupported Modes". WARNING: remember to go back in and change it before reconnecting your computer monitor so that you don't run it out of spec. Next, go to Display Properties->Advanced->Adapter and click the box that says "list all modes". In there, you should be able to see whether the resolution is progressive (99% are), or interlaced. I'm doing this from memory but, I beleive it will say something like "1920x1080, true color (interlaced)". That is, look for the word interlaced in the mode description.

Thanks.

PS. I'm swamped at work right now but I'll try to go back and answer any questions I missed later tonight. I'll also update the first post.


PSS. AVIDAV, which video card are you using. I will add it to the first post under a new compatability section. Thanks.
post #81 of 10882
Thread Starter 
First post updated with some device compatability over HDMI answers.
post #82 of 10882
Darrell,

Can you add my question to the first page? It's: "Is it a problem that 1080i/p over the component cables are only 24 or 30fps instead of 60? Is the difference noticeable?

Thanks.
post #83 of 10882
Thread Starter 
Can owners please comment on how loud their fans are? Mine seems silent...

Let me rephrase... if you don't consider your fan silent/unnoticeable, please post or let me know. Thanks.
post #84 of 10882
Could one owner of the 65" check the dimensions of the shipping box ? I'd really appreciate.
post #85 of 10882
I was wondering about warranty also - does HP provide an extended warranty or does this have to be purchased through a 3rd party?
post #86 of 10882
Is 65 as big as these are scheduled to go? Just wondering if they were going to introduce a 70+ size set.
post #87 of 10882
Anyone who has hooked up to their computers yet, would you please post your resolution's settings and timings? Particularily Nvidia users with 6600 or 6800. Please post powerstrip timings as well if used.

Also, has anyone done any calibrations with the TV itself? Please post your adjustments.

Finally, does anyone know how to get to the service menu? Just curious. Thanks

My set is scheduled to arrive Friday and I hope to have a full report for HTPC hookup that evening.
post #88 of 10882
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Originally Posted by AVIDAV View Post

Just posted on the 1080P over HDMI forum. Ran FAR CRY, MEDAL of HONOR and BATTLEFIELD II on PC at 1920x1080, 1600x1200, 1600x1024 all ran great. By way this over HDMI. You have add'l PC aspect along with others. Even windows looks great. PIP needs dual tuner.

some other 1080p RPTVs have been able to display excellent 1920x1080 over HDMI with some overscan, but none of them over VGA.
Did you try the VGA port at all? Did the HDMI had any overscan? How did 1600x1200 was even able to be displayed?
Damn your statement raise so many questions
post #89 of 10882
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd View Post

Can you Elaborate on what you tested. This was HDMI, right? Were you able to actually do 1920x1080 at 60FPS? How were you able to confirm it was 60FPS if that was the case? Were you able to eliminate the overscan? Is there any overscan on this set? Did you try the other inputs? Did 1080p look significantly better than 1080i or 720p?

Please see post on HP DLP 1080P over HDMI AVS thread. Will answer most of your questions. 26th page by the way. Also I think you'll find 1080i(other than PC) is going to look best from all sources due to less processing. Split screen does't work like other DLP's. What was HP thinking?
post #90 of 10882
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Originally Posted by ISO Perfect HDTV View Post

some other 1080p RPTVs have been able to display excellent 1920x1080 over HDMI with some overscan, but none of them over VGA.
Did you try the VGA port at all? Did the HDMI had any overscan? How did 1600x1200 was even able to be displayed?
Damn your statement raise so many questions

See above. Additionally, when inputting PC you get four aspects to use. Wide, zoom, studio, and pc. PC fills 80% of screen, studio best with 5% overscan(but interestingly moves screen up and down w/mouse scroll?! VGA no good because not digital to digital. Waste even having these ports w/modern graphics card.
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