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post #1 of 90
Thread Starter 
The subject of recording directly 'from the TV' on a Mits 1080 DLP came up and it was mentioned by someone from Mits to get a external HDD with a 1394 input to do so. Mind you, I'm NOT talking about a computer, just a separate stand along drive w/ 1394 in and a PS.
Other than D-VHS recorders (JVC & Mits) that will work, can/could a external 1394 drive work here?

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post #2 of 90
Nope that will not work

the external device needs the HAVI communication protocol to work with the Mits

RCA made some external hard drive units that serve this purpose, these units are known as a AVDisc, Mits also made some I think

check ebay

-Gary
post #3 of 90
Thread Starter 
Quote:
HAVI communication protocol
You mean this;
http://www.hssworld.com/hss_mindsyst...appliances.htm
Quote:
RCA made some external hard drive units that serve this purpose, these units are known as a AVDisc, Mits also made some I think
Neither make them anymore?
post #4 of 90
Yes HAvi is integrated into Net Command

They are on ebay Bruce, I seen them on there just a few days back, speaking of the RCA ones

-Gary
post #5 of 90
Thread Starter 
I searched under "AVDisc", "external HAVI drives" & "RCA" and nothing showed.
How about new?
post #6 of 90
heres one:

http://cgi.*********/NEW-RCA-DVR10-H...QQcmdZViewItem

item # 5796252084

hope you can sub in the correct letters :)

RCA made many different models with different hard drive sizes

Do not pay 350$ for this item, I have seen them go for less than 100$ many times on ebay

-Gary
post #7 of 90
Thread Starter 
Ok, what are the "correct letters"? :confused:
How about just a link?
post #8 of 90
The link is from E-B-A-Y, if I put any link with that in it you are still gonna have to fill in letters, there is nothing more I can do

-Gary
post #9 of 90
just get a G4 mac with a 400GB hd in it, then Use Virtual DVHS
post #10 of 90
search for RCA DVR10
...$89 on ebay.
works fairly well with my mitsu. ws65511. not great but does the job for time shifting hd content. recordings are set up thru the tv. no timer/remote or any controls for the device itself.
post #11 of 90
Thread Starter 
It's not made anymore?
post #12 of 90
Thread Starter 
butlermd; any problem recording SD?
Found two reviews that were very negitive;

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...501612-9764710
post #13 of 90
i've only used it for time shifting hd content. payed about $300 a couple years ago. don't think you can go wrong for $89. I primarily use replaytv's for recording non-HD content.
post #14 of 90
Thread Starter 
Didn't they sell? $90 is a nice price, too bad the HDD is that small and I did see the thread regarding swaping out a larger HDD, but didn't want to do all of that to get it to work (maybe).
post #15 of 90
do a search for the RCA DVR 2160 on Amazon
post #16 of 90
They have the DVR2160 on Amazon (beachaudio.com) for $125 shipped. But I can't see anywhere that it says it supports HAVi. It just says it has IEEE1394 DTVLink compatible port. Can anyone confirm that this will work with Mitsubishi HAVi set? How about the Sony Qualia with i.Link?
post #17 of 90
I also saw the RCA DVR2160 Amazon listing. I have a Sharp LC-45GX6U that supports I.LINK. However, the Sharp manual says, "Only D-VHS decks can be connected to this System." Has anyone tried connecting a DVR2080/DVR2160 to a Sharp?
post #18 of 90
Bought an RCA DVR10..anyone familiar with what hard drive is used in these, and can it be swapped for a larger one..(after voiding the warranty of course).. If there is one at all..
post #19 of 90
I can confirm that the RCA Scenium dvr2160 works well with the Mitsubshi WD-52525. Now if I can figure out a way to access it with the computer to archive the recordings. I have a computer hooked up to this TV via firewire, the dvr2160 shows in device manager but has no driver loaded. Does anyone have any idea where a driver can be found, or any other way to access the hard drive? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
post #20 of 90
Vividlogic has FW software that can be installed on a WinXP PC or notebook. According to Vividlogic, this software turns your PC/notebook into a DVR. You can both record and play via the Mitsu FW connection. You may also connect your Cable box dvr to this PC. My new Mitsu TV (62628) had a $100 coupon (included with the TV manual) for this software. It brings the price down to $99. They allow a 30 day trial download. I just got my TV and have not had time to try this software yet. When I try I will report here.
post #21 of 90
Does the dvr2160 allow you to copy from the cablecard/QAM tuner, or only the ATSC tuner? Mitsubishi DLP does not demux the channel from the stream and sends out the whole stream over the firewire link. Thus, a DVCR will not work if your cable system multiplexes channels on a single stream. I am hoping a disk based DVR would be able to capture the whole stream...
post #22 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by firmtech
I can confirm that the RCA Scenium dvr2160 works well with the Mitsubshi WD-52525. Now if I can figure out a way to access it with the computer to archive the recordings. I have a computer hooked up to this TV via firewire, the dvr2160 shows in device manager but has no driver loaded. Does anyone have any idea where a driver can be found, or any other way to access the hard drive? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
UMDTerp.. When you say it works well with your 52525, are you able to time shift and record one program while watching previously recorded program? Or just record and watch later?
post #23 of 90
I believe you are referring to firmtech?
post #24 of 90
Apparantly I need to be more awake when I post:). Yes, your are correct. Firmtech please see post above:)
post #25 of 90
Right now, one of the only AVHDD's on the market is this bad boy.

Don't worry about all the stuff about OEMs, they're trying that sales channel but that page also links to an order form where you can use your credit card.

I haven't used it, haven't heard of anyone who has, and can't offer any kind of endorsement. But I am expecting some Christmas cash pretty soon . . . :)
post #26 of 90
Thread Starter 
That RCA seems to be the same disaster as the LG 3410a............
post #27 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by firmtech
I can confirm that the RCA Scenium dvr2160 works well with the Mitsubshi WD-52525. Now if I can figure out a way to access it with the computer to archive the recordings. I have a computer hooked up to this TV via firewire, the dvr2160 shows in device manager but has no driver loaded. Does anyone have any idea where a driver can be found, or any other way to access the hard drive? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
That's a pretty bold statement in the scheme of what I'm able to do with mine. All I can do with mine is record from ANT1 (OTA) for timeshifting. I can't change inputs while recording is going on and I can't enable any of the "live-TV" options because I can't get to the menu on the RCA that allows us to change to "Option 3" for usability.

Please tell me what I've missed. This unit is WORTHLESS with my Mits in its current operational mode.

Thanks.
post #28 of 90
For what it's worth, I've been dubbing from my Moto DCT-6412 to a DVR2160 via my Mits WD-52628's firewire port (and integrated tuner) for a couple of months now. No problems.
post #29 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan_R
For what it's worth, I've been dubbing from my Moto DCT-6412 to a DVR2160 via my Mits WD-52628's firewire port (and integrated tuner) for a couple of months now. No problems.
Can you use it with its live TV functionality? If so, how?

In my original quote I interpret "very well" to mean fully functional as said device was intended to be used. To be able to use the DRV only to record is hardly fully functional. To add insult to injury, the TV remains locked to that input while any recording is going on if you're using ANT1 or ANT2 as the feed for recording. Pretty much makes the RCA a worthless POS. :(

Thanks.
post #30 of 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson-Flyer
Pretty much makes the RCA a worthless POS. :(

Thanks.
I think your are misplacing the blame. It is doing what it was designed to do, be an AV Disc. The lousy AV Disc implementation lies at Mitsubishi's doorstep.
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