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post #211 of 1327
Does anyone have their center channel speaker sitting on top of their 56MX195 display? If so, how did you do it?

I have a Polk CSi5 Center Channel that is 24"W x 14 1/2" D and the top of the set is pretty narrow and the back slopes very steeply. Not that I'm complaining of the relatively narrow depth of the set.

I've briefly looked at center channel shelves but would like to get feedback from actual set owners to see what you used successfully.

Thanks.
post #212 of 1327
read through this thread a bit and am considering buying the 56MX195 (i have the $ and want the 62 but dang, no way i can get that in my apartment haha)

can anyone confirm for sure that these sets do not accept a 1080p signal, i emailed toshiba support a couple weeks ago and was told by the rep that the set did infact support 1080p over hdmi, but the general concensus seems to be that this is not true....
post #213 of 1327
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Originally Posted by Jurai View Post

read through this thread a bit and am considering buying the 56MX195 (i have the $ and want the 62 but dang, no way i can get that in my apartment haha)

can anyone confirm for sure that these sets do not accept a 1080p signal, i emailed toshiba support a couple weeks ago and was told by the rep that the set did infact support 1080p over hdmi, but the general concensus seems to be that this is not true....

The latter is correct.
post #214 of 1327
ok thanks, wish toshiba had given me the right info! still probably goin with this series though
post #215 of 1327
I am considering purchasing either the 62MX195 or the 62HM195, and have (2) questions that I would appreciate information/advice on. 1) The Feb 2006 issue of Home Theater Magazine published a "1080P Face Off" comparing (6) 1080P RPTVs. They claimed that the 62HM195 gave a poor impression out of the box. They said even at the warmest setting, the Toshiba was almost 4200 Kelvin over the 6500 K standard. But after it was calibrated, it tied for 2nd place. In the summary paragraph they said "you really need to include the cost of a calibration". Has this been the experience of the users on this thread?

2) It apprears that the main difference between the MX and HM models is the addition of the "THINC Ethernet Port" and PC Input (15-Pin D-Sub)". I understand the significance of the PC input. Can anyone tell me how the Ethernet Port could be effectively used? When I searched on the web for prices for these two set, I found a significant difference between them. I don't expect to be needing the PC 15 pin input, so I am trying to understand how the Ethernet port could be used.
Thanks,
John
post #216 of 1327
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Originally Posted by John-H View Post

2) It apprears that the main difference between the MX and HM models is the addition of the "THINC Ethernet Port" and PC Input (15-Pin D-Sub)". I understand the significance of the PC input. Can anyone tell me how the Ethernet Port could be effectively used? When I searched on the web for prices for these two set, I found a significant difference between them. I don't expect to be needing the PC 15 pin input, so I am trying to understand how the Ethernet port could be used.
Thanks,
John

According to Toshiba, if used with their DVR (not sure about others) you could remotely via the web set up programs to record. It also can be used to view JPEG's or MP3 audio files from your home PC if connected together.
post #217 of 1327
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Originally Posted by John-H View Post

Can anyone tell me how the Ethernet Port could be effectively used?


I personally have it hooked up to my home network, very easy to do, the TV will pick up any "Shared" folders on the network. Limitations are only being able to see 1000 JPEG's per folder and 200 MP3's. So it would help if you had your pictures and music filed accordingly. The picture viewer is OK, viewing on a PC is obviously better, but it offers a nice browsing of pictures when the family or friends come over. The MP3 player is a bit crude to navigate but it does ok.
post #218 of 1327
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I personally have it hooked up to my home network, very easy to do, the TV will pick up any "Shared" folders on the network. Limitations are only being able to see 1000 JPEG's per folder and 200 MP3's. So it would help if you had your pictures and music filed accordingly. The picture viewer is OK, viewing on a PC is obviously better, but it offers a nice browsing of pictures when the family or friends come over. The MP3 player is a bit crude to navigate but it does ok.

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BigDGold, thanks for your reply. I can see the advantage of browsing any image stored on my PC. Have you tried the built-in CF card reader as an alternate for viewing your images? if so, is there any difference in the quality of the image on the screen. I am assuming that with a 1080x1920 resolution, the jpeg images must be spectacular. Is this accurate? With just over a $1000 net difference in price between the MX and the HM, I'm leaning toward buying the HM.
post #219 of 1327
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Originally Posted by John-H View Post

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BigDGold, thanks for your reply. I can see the advantage of browsing any image stored on my PC. Have you tried the built-in CF card reader as an alternate for viewing your images? if so, is there any difference in the quality of the image on the screen. I am assuming that with a 1080x1920 resolution, the jpeg images must be spectacular. Is this accurate? With just over a $1000 net difference in price between the MX and the HM, I'm leaning toward buying the HM.


Yes I have used the CF card reader to. Pull it right out of the camera and plug it in the CF slot and the TV's picture viewer automatically comes up. Maybe I wasn't clear on the Viewing Quality, I stated pictures look better on your PC, not the TV. The TV image is OK not great. Depending on the resolution of the picture the TV scales the image to a pre-determined size on the screen. The left 2/3rds has the picture and the right has thumbnails. Then you just scroll thru the list. I have an old Nikon Coolpix 950 that I take my picture at the 1024 X 768 fine resolution setting, my picture files sizes are about 350k. The images are a little grainy around the edges, not sharp like on you P.C.
So no matter what resolution you take the picture, ie: 640 X 480, or 1024 X 768, or 3:2, etc... the image will appear the same size on the pre-determined section on the screen. I'll try to take a picture of this tonight and submit it so you can see.
post #220 of 1327
Well I have narrowed down a problem I've been having with several HD and SD channels displaying corrupted and tiling as if there is a serious decryption problem.

Basically when the problem occurs, it's usually first seen on a higher HD channel (882) where the picture is corrupted and tiled. Then if I go to another channel that was just previously fine, it also shows some corruption, but not as bad as 882. Not all HD channels have this problem, and some SD channels show some level of the problem. I was convinced that the cablecard was getting in a corrupted state and could not decode properly. A simple power reset/reboot of the TV cleared the problem, which occured randonly usually after 3-4 weeks but a few times after only a few days.

Well, it looks like it's not a Cablecard issue, but in the TV. I was away last night and when I got back today my wife tells me that the decoding problem happened again (this time within only a few days of the last incident). The good news is that she left it in that condition so I could troubleshoot a bit more.

So I split the cable and fed analog cable into the ANT 2 port on the TV to bypass the Cablecard and see if the problem existed. I found an HD channel that was corrupting - again not all, but some, which indicates that the problem is in the TV signal processing.

I captured as much info as possible (pics of the channels, checked some of the TV diagnostics which actually showed nothing wrong, etc.) then did a full factory reset which I haven't done before. My theory at this point is that memory or processing software is getting corrupt that affects only some channels. I assumed if there was a tuner problem or hardware, then the problem would be more widespread and could not be reset by a simple power cycle reboot. With the factory reset, I'm hoping it's starting fresh.

I do have the latest 1.2.8 S/W and spoke to Toshiba on Saturday to see if they were aware of any issues, but they offered to send a tech out from the local shop. I don't feel comfortable with someone opening up the unit just yet, so I'll wait and see if it happens again and if it does then I know I'll have to get the TV tech out for a full proctology exam.

John
post #221 of 1327
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Originally Posted by Packer4Fan View Post

Does anyone have their center channel speaker sitting on top of their 56MX195 display? If so, how did you do it?

I've briefly looked at center channel shelves but would like to get feedback from actual set owners to see what you used successfully.

Thanks.

I would also be interested in seeing how others have placed a center channel on this set. I am not satisfied with the imaging I get from having the speaker under the SEt. I have tilted it up but I think the carpet is sucking up some of the sound.

I have seen some home theaters where people mount a shelf to the wall behind the set. I would require quite a wide self. Although the Toshiba is narrow, I have it pulled quite a way from the wall to match up to the existing component cabinets.

a bump for the Packer4Fan
post #222 of 1327
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I do have the latest 1.2.8 S/W and spoke to Toshiba on Saturday to see if they were aware of any issues, but they offered to send a tech out from the local shop. I don't feel comfortable with someone opening up the unit just yet, so I'll wait and see if it happens again and if it does then I know I'll have to get the TV tech out for a full proctology exam.

So,what did Tosh CR say when you told them you weren't comfortable with someone coming out?You just wondered if they were aware of any issues?
post #223 of 1327
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Originally Posted by enmoco View Post

So,what did Tosh CR say when you told them you weren't comfortable with someone coming out?You just wondered if they were aware of any issues?

I don't understand your point.

On Saturday, I called to see if the specific issue I was seeing had been seen by Toshiba. They were not aware of any similar issues. After discussing possible causes we agreed that it could be a number of things and they were willing to authorize a tech to come out. I decided to wait to further troubleshoot (as I did today) before going that route and having someone open up the unit - and unless the problem is actually occuring when they do come out they will likely not find any problem. At that point I was not convinced that it wasn't a CC issue.

I also did a BBB check on the local service shop and it wasn't totally clean either.

The Toshiba rep was actually very good about working the issue.
post #224 of 1327
Grrrrrrr!

I have had the 56MX195 since the end of October.. No complaints regarding the TV. Although 20 minutes ago the bulp blew up, so no tv for me for a while. This is not good after 3 months the TV is dead... If the bulp is gonna blow up every 3 months its not what i paid money for...

What are my options? Other then having them send another lamp.. This is the second time it will be serviced first problem with jacks on back of tv getting lose and now the stupid bulp...Any chance Toshiba will take their crap back and give me a check?

I gotta headache just thinking when they will have a new bulp in stock so i may install it
post #225 of 1327
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Originally Posted by John-H View Post

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BigDGold, thanks for your reply. I can see the advantage of browsing any image stored on my PC. Have you tried the built-in CF card reader as an alternate for viewing your images? if so, is there any difference in the quality of the image on the screen. I am assuming that with a 1080x1920 resolution, the jpeg images must be spectacular. Is this accurate? With just over a $1000 net difference in price between the MX and the HM, I'm leaning toward buying the HM.

I have mine hooked up to my network and I have setup a special shared network folder just for pics/mp3s that I want to hear/view on the tv. For the pics, if you scale/trim them to 1920x1080 and view them in slideshow mode (full screen), they look pretty good! Also, I have the Toshiba Symbio but have not gotten the email feature to work (yet). But, the idea is that you can email your tv to schedule recordings.
post #226 of 1327
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Originally Posted by Packer4Fan
Does anyone have their center channel speaker sitting on top of their 56MX195 display? If so, how did you do it?

I got my 56MX195 two weeks ago, and I am building my own shelving unit furniture for it. It's just wide enough for the TV (54") & 6ft tall, with shelves below and above the TV for audio equipment, center channel, etc. I have no use for the little TV stands that they usually sell with the TV. I have too much audio equipment.

Unfortunately, i've never seen anything like what i am building. Most entertainment centers for widescreens are HUGE. I have large speakers on each side of the TV, and limited wallspace, so i needed a shelving unit that was just as wide as the TV. Good thing i like to build stuff...........

....Mirolab.
post #227 of 1327
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Originally Posted by ongowa View Post

I have mine hooked up to my network and I have setup a special shared network folder just for pics/mp3s that I want to hear/view on the tv. For the pics, if you scale/trim them to 1920x1080 and view them in slideshow mode (full screen), they look pretty good! Also, I have the Toshiba Symbio but have not gotten the email feature to work (yet). But, the idea is that you can email your tv to schedule recordings.

I too am trying to get the Symbio/email thing to work, but I havent been able to. I opened up a new thread just for that here .
post #228 of 1327
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Originally Posted by magredc5 View Post

Well I have narrowed down a problem I've been having with several HD and SD channels displaying corrupted and tiling as if there is a serious decryption problem.

Basically when the problem occurs, it's usually first seen on a higher HD channel (882) where the picture is corrupted and tiled. Then if I go to another channel that was just previously fine, it also shows some corruption, but not as bad as 882. Not all HD channels have this problem, and some SD channels show some level of the problem. I was convinced that the cablecard was getting in a corrupted state and could not decode properly. A simple power reset/reboot of the TV cleared the problem, which occured randonly usually after 3-4 weeks but a few times after only a few days.

Well, it looks like it's not a Cablecard issue, but in the TV. I was away last night and when I got back today my wife tells me that the decoding problem happened again (this time within only a few days of the last incident). The good news is that she left it in that condition so I could troubleshoot a bit more.

So I split the cable and fed analog cable into the ANT 2 port on the TV to bypass the Cablecard and see if the problem existed. I found an HD channel that was corrupting - again not all, but some, which indicates that the problem is in the TV signal processing.

I captured as much info as possible (pics of the channels, checked some of the TV diagnostics which actually showed nothing wrong, etc.) then did a full factory reset which I haven't done before. My theory at this point is that memory or processing software is getting corrupt that affects only some channels. I assumed if there was a tuner problem or hardware, then the problem would be more widespread and could not be reset by a simple power cycle reboot. With the factory reset, I'm hoping it's starting fresh.

I do have the latest 1.2.8 S/W and spoke to Toshiba on Saturday to see if they were aware of any issues, but they offered to send a tech out from the local shop. I don't feel comfortable with someone opening up the unit just yet, so I'll wait and see if it happens again and if it does then I know I'll have to get the TV tech out for a full proctology exam.

John

I have long believed that some of the problems I have had with two different Toshibas were memory related or buggy software. Just a hunch I have but can't prove.
post #229 of 1327
I just read this on another forum and I'm hoping one of you 195 owners can validate if the instructions work for viewing lamp hours. See below:

With TV turned on:

1. Press "mute" on the remote - 1/2 mute appears on the screen
2. Press "mute" on the remote again - mute appears on the screen
3. Press "mute" on the remote and hold the mute button -
4. Press the "Menu" button on the TV's front panel. "S" will appear in the upper right corner of the screen.
5. Press the "Menu" button on the remote and the "S" will disappear. On the left side of the screen you will see "RCUT" followed by RCUT
ADDR DATA BINARY
224DH 00H 00000000B.
You are now in the service mode.
6. Press 7 and then "9" on the remote and you will access the diagnostics page. In the right hand corner is the lamp time in hours.
7. Press "power" button on remote to exit the menu and power off the TV.

CAUTION: Do not use the up and down volume keys on the remote in this menu as it can alter the data and can be dangerous.
post #230 of 1327
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Originally Posted by kdog044 View Post

I just read this on another forum and I'm hoping one of you 195 owners can validate if the instructions work for viewing lamp hours. See below:

With TV turned on:

1. Press "mute" on the remote - 1/2 mute appears on the screen
2. Press "mute" on the remote again - mute appears on the screen
3. Press "mute" on the remote and hold the mute button -
4. Press the "Menu" button on the TV's front panel. "S" will appear in the upper right corner of the screen.
5. Press the "Menu" button on the remote and the "S" will disappear. On the left side of the screen you will see "RCUT" followed by RCUT
ADDR DATA BINARY
224DH 00H 00000000B.
You are now in the service mode.
6. Press 7 and then "9" on the remote and you will access the diagnostics page. In the right hand corner is the lamp time in hours.
7. Press "power" button on remote to exit the menu and power off the TV.

CAUTION: Do not use the up and down volume keys on the remote in this menu as it can alter the data and can be dangerous.

I still just get "NO DISPLAY".Thanks for your effort though.I assume this is the post from HIDEF Forum you were talking about. I can access 27 different settings in the service menu by using CH. UP/DOWN. BUT,,CAN NOT ACCESS NEXT STEP,HOUR DISPLAY.
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Originally Posted by Mickey
SERVICE MODE:
I asked him about a counter for lamp hrs and he said yes but was hidden in the service mode. I told him I already knew how to get into the service mode but when I pressed the "9" key on the remote I didn't see anything. He went to show me the hrs but didn't have any success getting into the service more (he said he works on 15 different brands and has a tough time remembering all the key strokes). I took over the remote and quickly got into the service mode. Seeing I knew how to get into the service mode he became a little more open on the subject and step through all the adjmts. As it turns out the info on this forum is incorrect or at least for these sets. Once into the service mode you need to press the 7 then 9 keys then you'll get a screen that shows the lamp time in addition to other things including status of various ports. Oh, also the instruction posted on this forum say to press the "menu" button on the set after you're in the service mode but actually you need to press the "menu" key on the remote.

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Thanks for the info, I will update my information. I knew about the change to pressing the "menu" on the remote but the 7 and 9 keys is new for the 195's. Do you press them simultaneously or in sequence?
post #231 of 1327
Thread Starter 
Just wondering if anyone has used Spyder TV and if it's worth it? Thanks
post #232 of 1327
Would anyone mind sharing what settings they will use for the Superbowl? I know its hard to say without seeing the game on but am just curious. I tried using DVE but still have a lot to learn. I am interested in whether you will use your Preference setting or one of the pre-defined settings. If using preference, what are your settings? Also, will you turn the bulb up to high for the game?
post #233 of 1327
Did anyone watch the Grammy's last night, and in particular when U2 performed with the strobe lights going on...
The picture went to absolute crap while the strobes were going, it was very odd, and when the strobes stopped the picture was sharp and good as usually.
When I say the picture turned to crap it looked very pixalated, (if there is such a word).

any feedback
post #234 of 1327
I called TCS and,just as reported on other threads earlier,they have in fact an "all new and improved" bulb for the 195 series displays.I gave the rep. my phone # and she looked up my file(new LE first week).I told her I had no problems with the bulb right now,just concerned.She said the supplier of old bulbs was in Japan was the reason for backorder problems. Phone rang and I didn't get a chance to ask where the new ones come from.
post #235 of 1327
bump
post #236 of 1327
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Originally Posted by domingos1965 View Post

bump

What does this mean?
post #237 of 1327
Anyone with a 56hm195 using the cablecard? Other than the fact that you lose the capability of video on demand features, are there any other drawbacks? I really don't want to use the set top box and don't need another remote to deal with.

I know people's experience with Cablecards vary by provider, but in general is it worth the effort? Also, what are the hookups required to use the cablecard?
post #238 of 1327
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Originally Posted by enmoco View Post

What does this mean?

"bump" means that the poster is "bumping" up the thread to the first page in hopes that people will start posting on it again. See, it worked.
post #239 of 1327
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Originally Posted by magredc5 View Post

Well I have narrowed down a problem I've been having with several HD and SD channels displaying corrupted and tiling as if there is a serious decryption problem.

Basically when the problem occurs, it's usually first seen on a higher HD channel (882) where the picture is corrupted and tiled. Then if I go to another channel that was just previously fine, it also shows some corruption, but not as bad as 882. Not all HD channels have this problem, and some SD channels show some level of the problem. I was convinced that the cablecard was getting in a corrupted state and could not decode properly. A simple power reset/reboot of the TV cleared the problem, which occured randonly usually after 3-4 weeks but a few times after only a few days.

Well, it looks like it's not a Cablecard issue, but in the TV. I was away last night and when I got back today my wife tells me that the decoding problem happened again (this time within only a few days of the last incident). The good news is that she left it in that condition so I could troubleshoot a bit more.

So I split the cable and fed analog cable into the ANT 2 port on the TV to bypass the Cablecard and see if the problem existed. I found an HD channel that was corrupting - again not all, but some, which indicates that the problem is in the TV signal processing.

I captured as much info as possible (pics of the channels, checked some of the TV diagnostics which actually showed nothing wrong, etc.) then did a full factory reset which I haven't done before. My theory at this point is that memory or processing software is getting corrupt that affects only some channels. I assumed if there was a tuner problem or hardware, then the problem would be more widespread and could not be reset by a simple power cycle reboot. With the factory reset, I'm hoping it's starting fresh.

I do have the latest 1.2.8 S/W and spoke to Toshiba on Saturday to see if they were aware of any issues, but they offered to send a tech out from the local shop. I don't feel comfortable with someone opening up the unit just yet, so I'll wait and see if it happens again and if it does then I know I'll have to get the TV tech out for a full proctology exam.

John


I've noticed the same thing on my 56mx195. I had never noticed this tiling effect before until one day I was watching a basketball game on INHD (comcast) and suddenly the picture became completely tiled and blurry. REALLY bad. I had never seen anything like it. Cable guy came out and said he'd seen the same effect on the same channnel on his CRT high def TV. I was thinking this was a signal problem on this channel only, but the problem faded and became spotty on INHD, and now i'm noticing it on many other HD programs (the olympics, for example). Unlike the first time I noticed this tiling effect, now it seems to occur only when there is fast motion across the screen, like on a fast break in basketball. It is really starting to bother me. There's been some other problems too. Herky jerky movement during one b-ball game. Big, blocky digital artifacts that behave like tracers following motion across the screen. It seems to be getting worse. Haven't received any updates from Toshiba, but i think i'll need to. Something screwy is going on inside my set. I'll try the power reset to see if it has any effect.
post #240 of 1327
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Originally Posted by kullberg7 View Post

I've noticed the same thing on my 56mx195. I had never noticed this tiling effect before until one day I was watching a basketball game on INHD (comcast) and suddenly the picture became completely tiled and blurry. REALLY bad. I had never seen anything like it. Cable guy came out and said he'd seen the same effect on the same channnel on his CRT high def TV. I was thinking this was a signal problem on this channel only, but the problem faded and became spotty on INHD, and now i'm noticing it on many other HD programs (the olympics, for example). Unlike the first time I noticed this tiling effect, now it seems to occur only when there is fast motion across the screen, like on a fast break in basketball. It is really starting to bother me. There's been some other problems too. Herky jerky movement during one b-ball game. Big, blocky digital artifacts that behave like tracers following motion across the screen. It seems to be getting worse. Haven't received any updates from Toshiba, but i think i'll need to. Something screwy is going on inside my set. I'll try the power reset to see if it has any effect.

You are having poor signal artifacts.Not the display.If the cable guy didn't checked the high and low end signal outside where your cable comes into your house(not at the cluster box) he needs to come back.Sounds as if signal is too high or too low.Do you have cable internet? How many cable outlets do you have.More than 5? How many splitters?3 way splitter takes 10db.2 of them 20bd.Pixelation,tiling,"herky jerky movement" are classic digital compressed cable problems.Been there with Comcast here in Dallas.Talk to a supervisor and ask for a "line "tech. to test that end before it gets to your cluster box (usually in ally).Than do a test from the outside box to the house.Than a test at your Digital STB or CC equipped HD display and see that you're getting a minimum of 2/3 db at that location.Power amp inside house is an option IF NEEDED.BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A CABLE PROBLEM!!
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