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post #31 of 6205
Just a further thought. I understand Dish is quite popular with some people but, one of their weaknesses has always been a lesser 'quality' receiver than Directv. Now, it seems for some unknown reason, Directv has 'joined' Dish in this weakness. As a consumer, this is difficult for me to understand. Enough on this subject.
post #32 of 6205
del;............ I have 1 of my H-20s set with gray bars and 3 x 4 format in digital. And I have another 1 set in stretched and blacks bars. H-20 kind of quirky; play around with settings. reset and begin again; I had to on several things.
post #33 of 6205
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Originally Posted by Steve Richards View Post


The Guide alway starts with a filter option rather than showing the guide. I couldn't figure away to stop that so to get to the guide it's alway two key presses. I hope I've just missed something major here.

If the last thing you did in the guide was select a channel from the guide or you hit "exit" from the guide, then you can hit the "back" key, which will take you directly to the guide.
post #34 of 6205
Pardon me for jumping in but does anyone know if it's possible to use the H20 as an OTA receiver only?
post #35 of 6205
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Originally Posted by richard korsgren View Post

Just a further thought. I understand Dish is quite popular with some people but, one of their weaknesses has always been a lesser 'quality' receiver than Directv. Now, it seems for some unknown reason, Directv has 'joined' Dish in this weakness. As a consumer, this is difficult for me to understand. Enough on this subject.

I think it was Dan Collins who summed it uop by saying- DISH is more profitable then Directv so Directv is stealing some of their methods. Namely the in house box design, and the leasing model. Directv already killed all the independant box suppliers now it looks like 2006 they plan to make a big push towards leasing too.
post #36 of 6205
I have not found out yet how to maintain 'song listing' in Music Choice. It is ok listing first several songs but, then, the screen saver comes on the screen. I would like the choice of screen saver and/or music listings for each song played. Any ideas?
post #37 of 6205
I will say my picture HD and SD off the H20 blow away my old DTC 100. Now to get my old 2020 Replaytv to work with it. I was also hoping to maybe pick up Toledo with my OTA but no luck.
post #38 of 6205
Haven't ordered the H20, but read through the owner's guide and was very surprised and disappointed to notice that the receiver doesn't have a "blaster" that can control a VCR. Yes, a VCR is helpful if you want to archive programming. The guide suggests that you separately program your VCR to start at the same time you've programmed into your H20.

What a step backward from my wonderful Sony H300.

This new technology should make things easier for the consumer, not more difficult.

Gary
post #39 of 6205
I think vcr's are essential dead to the masses but a blaster to control a dvd recorder could sure be useful.

I wonder if maybe there are dvd recorder coming out with usb connections and they could one day enable the usb ports to control them that way? Supposedly directv plans to enable the usb ports for all sorts of features maybe this is something they can throw in? Just a random thought....
post #40 of 6205
Yes, VCRs aren't selling, but there are still an awful lot of them out there, not only mine.

Yes, the omission of a "blaster" does affect the user-friendly recording on DVD. I hope Direct does find a way to control outboard recorders.

Gary
post #41 of 6205
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I hope Direct does find a way to control outboard recorders.

I don't think that'll happen. D* wants you to use their DVR. FWIW, I haven't used the blaster in my old Hughes box for a couple of years.
post #42 of 6205
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Originally Posted by Gary Press View Post

Yes, VCRs aren't selling, but there are still an awful lot of them out there, not only mine.

....

Gary

agreed- i thought baout it after i posted, I should have said- something like 'in the future' since there are so many still floating around.



I think though the point about the dvr is valid- more incentive to have to pay the $6 extra amonth to get a dvr from them. Gives people another reason to 'voluntarilhy; move to the new official box flavors.
post #43 of 6205
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Originally Posted by Geof View Post

Pardon me for jumping in but does anyone know if it's possible to use the H20 as an OTA receiver only?

Yes, but if you're going to do that, definitely wait for the LG version of the H20.
post #44 of 6205
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

Yes, but if you're going to do that, definitely wait for the LG version of the H20.

I've actually found this receiver to be the best yet (for me) for receiving OTA. I can compare to the HR10-250 (Tivo), Zenith HD1080, and Mits Sr-HD5.

Seems to handle the multipath problems quite well and the lower stength Fox station too.
post #45 of 6205
Here is what's funny. We know that DirecTV CSR are clueless, but I was surprised when I was connected to level 2 advanced tech support. I spoke with this guy about the MPEG4 rollout and he was VERY knowledgable. (Almost as if he frequets this forum!) While we were talking, I asked if there was any way to identify the different manufactures of the box because I was waiting for the LG box to come out.

What he said really surprised me. There are ways of telling, first off, the location of manufacuring may be differe, the model # would definately be different (ie. H20-xxxx, H20-yyy etc). Also, he said we will NEVER see the LG box, even though they have started manufacturing them. I do not believe him, but he said that LG has lost the contract, even though it had been announced!

Let's hope this guy is completely wrong. If anyone in the know (Ken H) has any info, that would be nice.

Jeff
post #46 of 6205
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Originally Posted by scdiver View Post

Here is what's funny. We know that DirecTV CSR are clueless, but I was surprised when I was connected to level 2 advanced tech support. I spoke with this guy about the MPEG4 rollout and he was VERY knowledgable. (Almost as if he frequets this forum!) While we were talking, I asked if there was any way to identify the different manufactures of the box because I was waiting for the LG box to come out.

What he said really surprised me. There are ways of telling, first off, the location of manufacuring may be differe, the model # would definately be different (ie. H20-xxxx, H20-yyy etc). Also, he said we will NEVER see the LG box, even though they have started manufacturing them. I do not believe him, but he said that LG has lost the contract, even though it had been announced!

Let's hope this guy is completely wrong. If anyone in the know (Ken H) has any info, that would be nice.

Jeff


All the xxx numbers are hundreds. I posted a list of what we know so far based upon other posts I have gleaned:

100 is rca/ Thomson
200 is Samsung
300 is Phillips
400 I THINK was the HD Tivo's manufacturer selectron
500 = ???
600 is humax
post #47 of 6205
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Originally Posted by scdiver View Post

Also, he said we will NEVER see the LG box, even though they have started manufacturing them. I do not believe him, but he said that LG has lost the contract, even though it had been announced!

Let's hope this guy is completely wrong. If anyone in the know (Ken H) has any info, that would be nice.

Everything I've been told says this is wrong.
post #48 of 6205
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Originally Posted by michaelk View Post

All the xxx numbers are hundreds. I posted a list of what we know so far based upon other posts I have gleaned:

100 is rca/ Thomson
200 is Samsung
300 is Phillips
400 I THINK was the HD Tivo's manufacturer selectron
500 = ???
600 is humax

It's been speculated by those more knowledgeable than me, that 500 will be LG. So the LG version would have on the unit "DTV PN H20 - 500"
post #49 of 6205
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

Yes, but if you're going to do that, definitely wait for the LG version of the H20.

Yes, exactly Ken. Thanks!
post #50 of 6205
On 2- H-20s I get black and gray sidebars but no dark gray sidebars. How about you?
post #51 of 6205
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Originally Posted by michaelk View Post

All the xxx numbers are hundreds. I posted a list of what we know so far based upon other posts I have gleaned:

100 is rca/ Thomson
200 is Samsung
300 is Phillips
400 I THINK was the HD Tivo's manufacturer selectron
500 = ???
600 is humax

400 is Hughes

I thought 500 is Humax and 600 is LG.

-Robert
post #52 of 6205
Robert: The number on my 2 H-20s is '600' and the OTA section seems very good. It seems to me Humax did manufacture some units before LG. LG seems to be latest manufacturer so, logically '600' is the latest number. But I really do not have any definite info on the matter.
post #53 of 6205
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

400 is Hughes

I thought 500 is Humax and 600 is LG.

-Robert

Hmmmm....

The one I'm looking at is a H20 - 600.
post #54 of 6205
My 5 H20's are all 600.
post #55 of 6205
I just got my H20 today. I bought a H10 yesterday and traded it in after seeing how bad the pq is compared to my antique Hughes (non-HD) in non HiDef channels. First off, the pq on the H20 is a LOT better than the H10 and noticeably better than the Hughes. The HD signal strength is also higher than with the H10 for some reason. The only problems I have are:

1. I miss the Turbo Menu's oh so badly.
2. The guide is ultra slow.
3. Using Channel +/- to page flip in the favorite setup causes a reboot.

I can lie with the lack of Turbo's, but they really need to fix the slow guides. My wife is pissed.
post #56 of 6205
Does the Caller ID show name & number, or just number only?
post #57 of 6205
thehater: I agree; How could Directv get the guide so slow and unfriendly to set and read? And the 'favorites' is a joke! But, happy to relate, the audio and video are both first-rate!
post #58 of 6205
arxaw.........
My H20 Caller ID displays only the incoming number, no other info...
I checked out the H20 Manual.....all it talks about is "numbers"...no names/addresses, etc.
post #59 of 6205
It does display both if you subscribe to both services from your telco.
post #60 of 6205
My telco only sells Caller-ID "name & number". But I have 2 Samsung boxes that only display the tel number. That's why I was asking.

Anyway, it looks like I'll be hanging onto the Sammy boxes. This new H20 sounds like the clunky menu, GUI and painfully slow guides would be hard to live with. It's a shame that inferior equipment and no equipment choice is the new rule with D*. Choice of equipment was one of the reasons I went with D* instead of E* or incompetent cablecos.
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