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post #31 of 265
It's all the same screens. The RW line of Samsungs I believe. I feel Samsung LCD's look horrible and washed out with the dynamic contrast.

I have a 32 inch Bravia XBR LCD for my Xbox 360. I can't wait to get playing!
post #32 of 265
I'm am facing the opposite situation; I have a 50" Panasonic plasma, but am trying to decide which next gen console to buy. I have never not bought Nintendo's latest and greatest, and I probably still will this generation. But now that I have a HD display, I feel I also need an HD console to take advantage of it. Since the Revolution won't do HD, I'll need to buy a second gaming machine. I really want to get an XBox 360 simply because of the highly refined online experience it offers, but I am really torn because the PS3 does Blu ray and has HDMI out. Decisions decisions.
post #33 of 265
We just purchased a Samsung LN-R328W and the picture on it seems to be very nice...... According to my research it has a refresh rate of 12ms ..... ive never played games on a LCD i was just curious as to how the 360 will look on it, when playing a fast paced shooter?
post #34 of 265
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Dont get me wrong I will probably get a PS3 as well but do you seriously want to wait ??? amount of time to get one, XBox 360 will be here THIS month with a pretty killer lineup of games. Yes PS3 has HDMI out but are you seriously going to use it for your only Blu-Ray player, I would hope any self respecting person on these forums would have a seperate player when that day comes. You can't beat X-Box live though, back in the day I would have thought that a pay system would loose every day over one that was free but look how it stands now. I dont know what Sony has up their sleave for online with PS3 but it better be huge to top X-Box live!
post #35 of 265
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bxsnypa go down to your local game retailer and check out one of the XBox 360 demos on the samsung displays, I think Call of Duity 2 is the only FPS that they currently have as a playable demo, it looks really sick though
post #36 of 265
My two cents. Bought the Philips 42PF7320A. Started playing gamers on day 1. No burn-in. I put at least 2-3 hours in, with myabe two 15 breaks to watch a little TV. I put in a couple hours everyday with no problems. Once I was playing Brothers in Arms. Afterwards, I did see the compass on the left side of the screen, but it disappeared in no more than 10 miuntes. Plasma works very nicely.
post #37 of 265
My Sharp Aqous (26DA5U) hasnt let me down so far with PC gaming (Quake 4, BF2, etc) either!! I've hooked up my PC using a HDMI-DVI cable and dot-to-dot feature is great for PC resolutions.

SS
post #38 of 265
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Originally Posted by amjustice
bxsnypa go down to your local game retailer and check out one of the XBox 360 demos on the samsung displays, I think Call of Duity 2 is the only FPS that they currently have as a playable demo, it looks really sick though

i'll check it out once i go get my controllers n stuff...... i'llbe hooking up my reg xbox to it this weekend..... and i would have to agree completely with you COD 2 looks incredilble
post #39 of 265
I bought a 23" Samsung LCD for xbox 360. I've been playing vdeogames on a 20" or smaller TV all my life, so 23" doesn't seem too small for me.
post #40 of 265
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Originally Posted by amjustice
why did you choose to go plasma? I have heard some pretty strong arguments for avoiding plasma for gaming. Im intrigued!

One other thing to remember about plasma outside of the burn-in thing is the poor displaying of darker colors. If you sit kind of close you will see a dither/noise pattern in darker colors. It kind of looks like a bunch of moving dots. Try it to see if that will bother you, it is unacceptable for me.
post #41 of 265
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Originally Posted by DaveC19
One other thing to remember about plasma outside of the burn-in thing is the poor displaying of darker colors. If you sit kind of close you will see a dither/noise pattern in darker colors. It kind of looks like a bunch of moving dots. Try it to see if that will bother you, it is unacceptable for me.

ive also noticed that with certain lcd's......they tend to display black not as well
post #42 of 265
I ordered two new TVs two weeks ago when my Hitachi 50" RPTV from 1993 (hand me down) finally started rolling, but still haven't recieved either TV as they're both on backorder. I've been TVless for two+ weeks now and it's killing me! I've been anxious to get my hands on an Xbox 360 for some time now but didn't get my pre-order in on time, so I'm just hoping to get one in stores on the 22nd. I plan on buying the Ultimate bundle with 2 extra wireless controllers and these games: Call of Duty 2, Dead or Alive 4, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, Perfect Dark Zero, Project Gotham Racing 3, and Quake 4. It's definately gonna cost a pretty penny, so I hope it's all worth it!

What's more important is that I get at least one of the TVs on order before the Xbox 360 gets here though! Can you imagine my frustration if I get the thing and have no TV to play on?! The first to arrive (should hopefully be sometime next week) will be a LG 50PX4DR for the bedroom. The big boy for the living room that has been on backorder since its release is the Mitsu WD-73927 that I can't wait to game on, but I have no idea when to expect its arrival. Saw one at CEDIA (can't remember if it was the 73" or the 62" 927 series) and was blown away. Wanted to take it home with me right there! Anyway, wish me luck on getting a TV before the 360 comes out!
post #43 of 265
I have the Hitachi 55HDT52 on order. And the 360 preordered as well. From the looks of it they will probably get here at the sametime. I am also tv-less now. As I've sold my Mits.
post #44 of 265
Even though the 360 won't support HD-DVD for games, that doesn't mean games won't be available in widescreen right? I mean, widescreen games already exist for original Xbox don't they? So what's the word for HD games on the 360? DVD-9 or -18 based?
post #45 of 265
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Originally Posted by 1920x1080
Even though the 360 won't support HD-DVD for games, that doesn't mean games won't be available in widescreen right? I mean, widescreen games already exist for original Xbox don't they? So what's the word for HD games on the 360? DVD-9 or -18 based?
Not quite sure I fully understand your question, but the Xbox 360 will definately support widescreen high-def games. This is one of the major points Microsoft is trying to drive home, first to market with next-gen high-def gaming (most, if not all, games released along with the system will support 720P). As for HD-DVD, it is possible for the Xbox 360 to support these discs, but it would be in later iterations of the hardware. It will not be able to playback Blu-Ray discs like the PS3 will be able to do. The only reason to support either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD is for movie playback, it *shouldn't* factor into the gaming side of either console anytime soon. DVD-9 or DVD-18? Well I would suspect DVD-9 since double sided discs have started to disappear in favor of multiple DVD-9 discs, but either would work. :-)
post #46 of 265
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Originally Posted by 1920x1080
Even though the 360 won't support HD-DVD for games, that doesn't mean games won't be available in widescreen right? I mean, widescreen games already exist for original Xbox don't they? So what's the word for HD games on the 360? DVD-9 or -18 based?
Just a small addition to the poster above, not only does the X360 support HD and 16:9, all games are REQUIRED to support both 720p and 1080i at 16:9.
post #47 of 265
yeah, thats right.... all minimum 720p widescreen.

in addition, they might offer hd-dvd in a later version, but they have now stated that ALL games will be on the DVD format used at the beginning.

they also have hinted that the 360 can output via hdmi, they would just need to bring out a lead... but that they feel that component is plenty good enough for the moment.

what i dont know is where the digital out audio connection is located. also, the thing im concerned about is the noise that the 360 pumps out. the original xbox is one noisy mofo. its said that the 360 is "kind of" water cooled so should be much quieter. i sure hope so. nobody has really mentioned it explicitly so far.

over here in europe, i recently bought a sony bravia 32inch, the xbr version (called V series here in Europe).

I also updated my projector from a panasonic ae300 to an ae900. theres nothing like a bit of gaming action on a 120 inch screen you know.

i will for sure buy prg3 and probably one other. the release date over here is dec2nd so i will have a little bit of time to process reviews that come out immediately after the USA release.

it might be call of duty 2 if its immersive enough. it might be tiger woods if it looks good enough. it might be one of the basketball games like nba live, just to show off the system!!!

in the future, im looking forward to the next ninja gaiden (not announced yet), splinter cell, and halo 3... though certain games, halo included, always seem to give me motion sickness.


man, im counting the days.
post #48 of 265
Yeah, I'm going to rock the VGA connection until HDMI. 1:1 pixel mapping should be possible.

I'll be getting Ridge Racer and DOA 4 at launch.
post #49 of 265
I already have a Media Center PC that will be using the VGA input on the Mitsu to take advantage of the 1080P input, so hopefully Microsoft either comes out with an HDMI output cable, or even better I hope the component output looks plenty good so as not to warrant the purchase of yet another pricey cable. :) If I do try out the VGA output and it does look significantly better than component (can't imagine a HUGE difference) I suppose I will be investing in a VGA A/B switch! 1:1 pixel mapping would be very nice, but I'm still not entirely certain what 1:1 would be with these tricky new '1080P' DLP displays...
post #50 of 265
I am getting an XBox360 soon as well as my first HDTV. Using this site and others, I think I’ve weeded the choices down to first, 37"->42" panel given my space, and then down to either the Westinghouse LVM-37W1 LCD or the Panasonic TH-37PX50U Plasma.

My impressions so far (I saw them in Best Buy): The LCD was brighter, of course, and looked much sharper/cleaner than all the others on display, but its color seemed to be shifted to blue sometimes more than the other LCDs and plasmas, but still overall the best picture of the displays. The Plasma had the best color representation and was the second sharpest display with whatever signal they were using, but it did have dither noise especially in the dark areas, which was irritating, but all the plasmas did, and it was brighter than most other plasmas.

The specs show that the Westy is 1080p (and cheaper). Will the XBox360 do 1080p? And while I assume most games will only be optimized for 1280x720p, I'm thinking 1080p (or i if it doesn’t do p) will be good for my expectations of the XBox's photo, music and web integration with my PC + internet.

I am surprised no one else has mentioned the Westinghouse yet on this thread, so I’m concerned that the large Westinghouse threads I found earlier were just a fanatic few since it is off brand and cheap. Can that slight blue shift be fixed through adjustment or is that characteristic of the display? I didn't see people mention its existence elsewhere. Anything else wrong with that Plasma other than it being a bit darker + noisy in the darks (but not especially for plasmas), and low res? I have been convinced here that burn in is not an issue anymore. :)

Are there other 37->42 inch panels I should strongly consider for TV and XBox360?

mmm.. hemorrhaging money and loving it.
post #51 of 265
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I am also going to get my first HDTV for the next generation consoles. I will be running the XBox 360 on my crummy old Phillips CRT for a few months until I have the $$ for my LCD.
post #52 of 265
I am wondering about 1 thing. I have a Loewe Aconda, which has been my HDTV warhorse for a number of years. It doesn't support 720p. I have read that most of the games coming out at launch will be 720p. Does anyone know whether the Aconda will upconvert them to 1080i? I would hate to think I'd be playing them at 480p.
post #53 of 265
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The 360 is going to run at 1080i as well as 720p, you will be fine
post #54 of 265
I just ordered SYNTAX LT37HVS Black 37" LCD for Xbox360. Just hope that it looks good since I never used HDTV before and this is my first. Before that I was running Xbox on 27" Trinitron CRT and it looke pretty good.

Do you guys think that image quality will be much better on the LCD TV that I'm getting or on my old 27" flat screen CRT?
post #55 of 265
But will it be able to scale games that are only offered at 720P? The current Xbox will not scale anything. It simply outputs whatever resolution the game has to offer and I wouldn't think the Xbox 360 would be any different as that would take processing power away from the game when nearly every HDTV around these days has a built in scaler. I would suspect that if the game is output as 720P and your CRT doesn't specifically support 720P, that it upscales to 1080i rather than downscaling to 480P. If you currently have an Xbox, Alan_Arkin, you could try any of the current titles that support 720P and see how they look. Otherwise just cross your fingers, but I'd bet you'll be just fine. :)
post #56 of 265
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Originally Posted by Rupt
I think my favorite plasma is the Sony 50inch I saw at Good Guys, but I couldnt bring myself to spend $5k in a store that was about to go out of business. I really really liked the PQ on the Sony Plasma. I wish they wernt discontinuing it.
What Sony plasma were you considering? Was it the KDE 50XS955? I think I was in the same boat at the same time.
post #57 of 265
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Originally Posted by GodAres
But will it be able to scale games that are only offered at 720P? The current Xbox will not scale anything. It simply outputs whatever resolution the game has to offer and I wouldn't think the Xbox 360 would be any different as that would take processing power away from the game when nearly every HDTV around these days has a built in scaler. I would suspect that if the game is output as 720P and your CRT doesn't specifically support 720P, that it upscales to 1080i rather than downscaling to 480P. If you currently have an Xbox, Alan_Arkin, you could try any of the current titles that support 720P and see how they look. Otherwise just cross your fingers, but I'd bet you'll be just fine. :)

You can select what HD resolution you want the X360 to output no matter if the game only does 720p. The system has a scaler.

I'm going to buy a 30HS420 next week(it's a CRT HDTV). It accepts 480p, 720p and 1080i. It displays 48p and 1080i natively but will scale 720p to 1080i.

As for what games I'm going to get...hmmmmm well I was going to get Oblivion but it got pushed to spring 06. Ghost Recon also got pushed(feb.06). So i think I'm going to get CoD2, PDZ and Kameo. I'll need a racing game too but cant decied between PGR3 and NFS:MW.
post #58 of 265
Hi all,
I am in this mess as well, looking for a good LCD to use primarily with the upcoming XBOX 360.
I narrowed my choices to these three, and here's why:
32" Sony (KDL-V32XBR1) - Since I won't have HD service, I want good SD performance, which I heard this has. I also like that it has built in tuners, so I can connect an antenna for OTA HD. This set quickly seemed to become the "leader" in the LCD pack. But is it worth the money over....
32" Samsung (LN-R328W) - I hear this set has great picture quality at an affordable price, and Samsung is the "endorsed" vendor for the 360. The price on this set is what is appealing. However, for more money, I can have the above Sony, which is said to be superior in quality all around, or a larger set, like this...
37" Sharp (LC-37D4U) - Sharp has always received good reviews for there Aquos line. The TV is featured well, and has a nice finish, plus its bigger than the above sets and for less than the Sony!
I hate this, I can't decide for the life of me what to get. And the 360 is around the corner, I want my TV darn it! :) I really like the Sony, but I wonder if my money is better spent on the Sharp, any help?
post #59 of 265
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Originally Posted by Jaded
You can select what HD resolution you want the X360 to output no matter if the game only does 720p. The system has a scaler.
True, I forgot that the Xbox allowed you to select which resolutions your display supports. I don't have any HDTV around to test with, but what does the Xbox output when you tell it your TV supports 1080i but not 720p and play a game that supports 720p and not 1080i? I never tried it and never gave any thought to whether it would scale 720p to 1080i or just output 480p instead. Good catch, Jaded!
post #60 of 265
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I feel ya slick I have started looking at the Sony as well over the samsung or the sharp, those are pretty much the 3 I have been looking at. Luckaly I am not as pressed for time as you. I have always been a firm believer of you get what you paid for, I would go with the sony after reading another guys review of it today it sounds like it would be the best bet for watching a lot of SD.
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