Attn Newbies: You Cannot Record in Hi-Def Resolution on Current DVD Recorders - Page 3

Thanx aprest.

somebody just hack the dtv dvr and enable the usb ports... usb 1.0 puts out 5mb a second right? go usb to firewire.
Rob

I believe you mean USB 1.1 and I believe you mean 12Mb/s.

1.1? Ok- not 2.0. WHatever.
Did you see a question mark at the end? I was told once it was 5mb.
Back when i bought the AVS mpeg2 capture device yrs ago.

Can you hack the dvr?
Rob

If you mean USB 2.0, then the bitrate is 480Mb/s.

First you were telling people to hack it, now you're asking if it can be done? Maybe you should have asked first.

This discussion is getting off topic. Nikknight, if you want info on hacking DVR's, please search or post in a forum where the DVR experts are located. Meanwhile, this thread is about what happens when HD sources are recorded on current SD DVD recorders.

Yes it is getting off topic. However, We also talked about using the svid/component outputs to try and find a way to get the DTV DVR to flag the 16x9 video. If you don't have one, Another output on the Hughes HD DVR box is USB but the USB ports aren't active for use. Hence the 'hack it' comment.
and you can call me Rob.

What does 'small tank' in reference to the GX300 mean?

While a HD picture recorded onto a DVD recorder pales in comparision to the original source, a down converted HD source viewed through the recorder input looks very much the same when dubbed on LP or better. If one accepts this there will be few disappointments. I record from the HD stations for widescreen versions of films only seen in pan and scan on digital.

I also use the "zoom" on my Sony XBR960 to view 16x9 or letterboxed material. My first recorder, the Toshiba DR4 (returned because copy protection suddenly kicked in) had a 16x9 aspect ratio for recording; maybe had the output of my cable box been set to 480i those dubs could have been viewed using the "full" mode. Irrelevant now since I replaced it with the Panasonic ES20.

Try reading the thread with "16:9 picture" in it, since I had a related question.

It seems to boil down to the capabilities of the digital tuner / STB that supplies the signal to the DVD Recorder which is usually sent over S-Video. If that can't send down squeezed 16:9 in a 4:3 box or can't pass 16:9 as letterboxed 4:3 (with a flag) then you may be out of luck.

Peter

There are limitations to this however - quoting from page 48

* It only works with DVD-R and DVD-RW (Video), not DVD+RW not DVD+R (where the screen size is set at 4:3)

* It only works when recording mode is set to HQ, HSP or SP - so a max of 2 hours.

* With DVD-RW (VR mode) the actual picture size is recorded regardless of this setting - if you don't mind this mode, this seem to be the best choice. The manual doesn't state with recording modes can be used.

peter

I don't have one, but that comment relates to the GX300 being a heavy, ruggedly built unit, unlike some of the newer generation Sony's.

It only takes a few gallons before it needs a refill to keep it powered :-)

peter

Can somone post the part # for the GX300 remote?
IS it rmt-d205a ?

Yes: RMT-D205A

So, according to what this thread is posting Nero's 7 Ultra Edition is Bunk? Or are you just saying that if your recording from a hd reciver to a dvd recorder and not an HTPC the likelyhood resulting format would not exceed 480i.

http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_7..._Features.html

Sorry, but I've gone to that link and don't see anything the contradicts this thread. Today's DVD recorders only record standard definition video which is 480i. None of these recorders downsample HD video sources. Depending on your hardware you might be able to get 16:9 SD video but most likely you'll get 4:3 letterbox when recording from an HDTV channel to a standalone DVD recorder.

It specifically states "Capture, edit and export High-Definition (HD) video files. "

But what does that have to do with standalone DVD recorders? I can capture, edit and export HD sources with my Mac with mostly free software but there's no way to get those into my DVD recorder or player unless they get converted to SD 480i.

Thank you for answering my question.

The key is that there is no DVD Standard yet for anything beyond 480i. So DVDs as they are today (notwithstanding HD-DVD and Blu-Ray) simply cannot hold HD content and still comply with the DVD Standard. 720x480 is the maximum resolution allowed by the DVD Standard.

Why Is This Thread Stuck On Top?

To reduce the number of posts asking how to record high definition TV on DVD recorders.

The forum administrator places the "Sticky" attribute when he decides the subject should not be "pushed back" as time goes by and no one responds to keep it up front. It is something important for everyone in that thread to at least see, if not read. The adm. can do this on his own, or at the request of a poster, as in the case of the High-Def. subject.

Hi, heres a real "newb" question. I am getting a DVD recorder soon (to be named later) to copy a bunch of programs from my Motorola 6412. My question is in regards to the hook-ups. Can I output the DVR to the DVD recorder AND the TV at the same time. Obviously, I want to keep the HD signal to the TV but will the PVR output to both locations at once? Do I have to do some rewiring?
thanks so much, this forum and you guys are awesome!

Hopefully the manual for your STB answers that question. But you may have to experiment. Or call customer support. Another way would be for someone with the same model of STB, that has already gotten the answer, to report it here.

I see that model mentioned a lot around here, maybe a search would reveal some discussion that helps you.

Yes, you can connect the DVR to the DVD recorder via S-video and still retain the HD connection to your TV. It's no different from using a VCR to record from the DVR.

How about just using (oh the horror of being OT) D-VHS? It is about the same cost as some of these dvd recorder others are mentioning.

I'm considering just that since I recently switched my HD STB for one with FireWire output. Unfortunately without that a D-VHS deck will do little good to record HD material. Unless you know of one that can take its HD input on Component Video?

W-VHS does just that in an analog format, but its mucho dinero and those that want one usually just go the D-VHS route. Since you state you have a box with firewire, and I know that ebay has many decks up there. You just need to decide whether you want to watch hollywood pre-recorded movies on your box or not. PM me and I can give you more info that if I would to post here would bring this thread really off topic.

Let me ask you ,when you record HD programing in your SD DVD Recorder do you get full wide screen??? and how is the picture quality??? The reason why I ask, with the soccer world cup being broadcast in HD beginning in June, (60 games=120 hours) I can't put them all in my HD-DVR so I like to start a little collection of World Cup games since there isn't a HD DVD Recorder out there......and also what brand do you recommend to get.