Official Yamaha RX-V1600 & 2600 thread - Page 5

Well, I pulled the trigger on a Harmony 880. Should receive it Monday. Thanks for the feedback.

HDMI is flawless with the Tivo HD.

As regards sound quality, I'd have to say the sound is fantastic. I have Klipsch all around starting with Forte II's in the front to THX side surround, etc etc. It's just freakin' remarkable! I'm not just talking DVD's; I'm talking CSI! It's amazing how much I've been missin' (lol!)

anymouse - I think you'll be happy with the 880. I haven't used mine a whole lot yet but it's damn powerful. I wouldn't believe the 45 minutes setup time. It does take some tweaking to get it just right but when you get there it's fantastic.

Thanks for the SQ review. I really want to get the RX-V2600 soon but I'm shopping around for a good price. Best price I've found is out of stock and they can't confirm when it will be in. Anyone have any hot deals send me a PM. Thanks.

S1DIMMER....I don't have an ideal speaker set-up either....Bose stacked cubes for fronts, Bose VCS-10 center, Bose 21 bookshelfs for rears and a Cambridge Soundworks 8" powered sub....looking to upgrade as soon as I recover from buying the 2600....I have significant hearing loss in my right ear and so dialogue is a problem for me.....the 2600 has made a significant difference in clarity, which has helped with the dialogue.....only had time so far to watch/listen to Eagles Farewell Tour One a couple of times......this receiver is definately overkill for my 14'X14' room with my current speakers.....I'm using digital coax from my DVD and Optical digital from my STB.....I think what I've heard so far sounds great....John

Thanks John - my current receiver can have a tendency to muffle the center channel so dialog isn't alway clear. It's not terrible but could be better. I'm looking forward to getting the Yamaha. I've got a decent price, not the cheapest I've seen online but it's from a good vendor and has a 5 year warranty. I just might go that route.

So does this mean the 1600 is more likely to do a "pass through" on a signal, without trying to upconvert it... then there would be less of a chance that it would have a handshake issue... ?

Just a thought.. any ideas...?

Warp

Can you help me? I want to do this, will it work?

XBOX360 720p -> Components -> rx-v2600 HDMI 720p -> Projector HDMI 720p
DVD 720p/1080i -> HDMI -> rx-v2600 HDMI 720p/1080i -> Projector HDMI 720p/1080i
PS3 1080p -> HDMI -> rx-v2600 HDMI 1080p -> Projector HDMI 1080i
Digital TV 480p -> Components -> rx-v2600 HDMI upscale 720p -> Projector HDMI 720p

Thanks!

Neither the 1600 nor the 2600 do any upconversion when you have HDMI in/HDMI out.

I think that they would probably behave the same in regards to HDMI in/out. Both essentially do a pass through.

Not so sure how the 2600 will handle 1080p from PS3. Everything else looks like it will work.

they aren't even making the PS3 for another year from now....

I personally wouln't rest all my hopes on a year away product....

I think they should work fine. However, I am not sure about the game boxes.

As to upscaling to 720p or 1081, the manual says that the GUI display becomes grayed out when:

1. Conversion is set to off;
2. If the selected HDMI upscaling setting is not supported by the HDMI component connected to the HDMI out of the 2600 (ie an EDTV or an SD TV);
3. If the resolution of the analog video signals being input is either 1080i or 720p;
4. If the selected HDMI upscaling setting is lower than the resolution of the analog video signal being input (ie apparently you can't down res a 720p signal into 480i)

The manual goes on to say that; "Unconventional signals (such as those ouput from a game console etc.) input at the composite video, s-video or component video cannot be converted even if conversion is set to On."

(I have not tried this but I would guess this would mean that it cannot be converted to HDMI and cannot, therefore, be sent out of the 2600 through the HDMI---this is just my guess as I don't have a game console) I would think it would still pass through the signals via component to your projector though

Next week, we'll know if a xbox360 connected to this receiver (component) can be sent out through HDMI to the display.
Does anybody know if the answer is YES?

Hi just got my RXV-2600 home.

As soon as I plugged my HDMI out in to the back of my TV, I get the following message:

HDMI ERROR
HDCP ERROR

As soon as I disconnect, the message goes away. Seems like some handshake problem with my TV.

I have a Panasonic PT-50DL54, 50" DLP Set. When I connected my Pace HD Cable box to the TV's HDMI input, it worked fine.

Anyone else seen this?


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I think I figured this out. I think the reason the handshake failed was because my TV was already on when I plugged in the HDMI cable. Once I powered off the TV and Receiver and powered them both back on... VIOLA! no more error. Whew.

As long as the xbox sends a standard video signal, then it will pass through to HDMI.

If the xbox sends 720p or 1080i, then scaling will be disabled on the 2600 and the signal will convert the signal to HDMI format.

If the xbox sends 480i or 480p, then you will have the option of upscaling to 720p/1080i for HDMI output.

Does anybody use this receiver with the pana ae900 projector (HDMI)? Any problem?
Does anybody use this receiver with the Marantz dv-6600 dvd player (HDMI)? Any problem?

I just received my 2600 yesterday. Some observation:

It's the sexyest receiver I've ever seen
Each individual video input requires independent setup, for HDMI, Upscaling, etc.
Once it's set up, it works like a charm.
All HDMI input is only pass through, so if your source is 480p, it's best to import it via component vs HDMI so you can upscale it.
all component input is upscaled per your preference to 720p or 1080i. Or you can leave it 480 if your video scaler does a better job than the yammy.
I don't notice a difference importing 720p via my Samsung DVD upscaling player out to my Optoma H79 vs. 480p output upscaled to 720p by the yammy to the PJ vs. 480p output via the Samsung passed through and upscaled by the optoma H79. They all look pretty good at 110 inches diagonal for 16:9 source material. For simplicity of switching, I'm sending everything into the 2600, upscaling analog component sources to 720p and sending everything out via the one HDMI output. I have my Motorola cable box using the component output to the Yammy, as its HDMI port doesn't play well with repeaters. My OTA tuner is DVI to HDMI into Yammy and my DVD is HDMI to HDMI in to yammy.
480i input to Yammy is soft and fuzzy output to higher def, so a progressive scan player and HD cable box are worth while.
Auto setup with the included microphone is incredible. It determines the wire length to each speaker as well as the physical distance to center point and dB variation for each channel. It takes less than a minute to complete. It sounds great.
Quit reading this review and go order an RX-V2600!

Hey Wood,

Congrats on getting what seem to be an awesome receiver. How is standard def. TV using the Yammi to upscale?? Any improvement over running it straight from your cable box into your H79 or you old receiver depending how you ran it before?? I've heard there is about a 20% to 30% increase in PQ, but that could be subjective. Some say its better to feed your PJ a basic 480 signal and let the onboard scaler do the work. Any thoughts??

Looks as if the set-up procedures and manual are a lot more realistic than the Denon 3806.
Lot's of complaints over on the other thread!

I don't really notice much difference with SD cable directly into the Optoma via HDMI or component, or into the Yamaha first via component. As mentioned, I can't input via HDMI to the 2600 then out to the PJ, a drawback with the Motorola boxes not supporting repeater function. Overall, SD video is not nearly as sharp as DVD or HD content, but there is certainly no PQ penalty incurred by running through the 2600 and upscaling to 720p out to the PJ. I've chosen this route for output simplicity. I have run both HDMI and component cables in wall to the projector, but it's much easier to switch sources on the 2600 and always leave the PJ on the digital input (DVI with an HDMI adapter).

Hope this helps. Again, this is an awesome receiver. Go get one.

I am assuming because the H79 onboard scaler pretty much does the same thing as the 2600. Oh well, this may somewhat negate the advantages of the 2600, but I'm still going to get it.

Thanks

Anyone have a 2600 powering Axiom speakers? I am just wondering if this receiver will power all 7.1 speakers without buying any other amps.

thanks for your thoughts,

Gary

Does adding presence speakers make much of a difference in the sound experience with the 2600? If yes which ones would be good?

If you use a projector, yes it does. It 'lifts' the central channel so that it appears to come from behind the screen.


Just good satellites would do. I have a pair of secondhand JM Lab Sib speakers (the rest is JM Lab Chorus).

Just picked up the audiovox connect and play XM antenna last night. Signed up for a year membership and am enjoying XM radio in the media room. The antenna is sitting on top of my 2600, in my attic media room, with no windows, and I'm getting a very strong antenna signal. I thought I was going to have to run it through the wall to the uninsulated attic space near a vent to get a signal, but not the case.

[quote=jdk123]Does adding presence speakers make much of a difference in the sound experience with the 2600? If yes which ones would be good?


If one has a projector, is it better to have precense or surround back speakers?
(I'm very confused about these presence speakers and the selection between presence and surround back)

You can actually hook up both, but can only use one or the other at a given time. I set mine up with just 7.1 but my front's have directional tweeters that I can direct to my listening position. It seems to do pretty well without the "dialogue lift" feature that the presence speakers would give. If you want to try both, do so before you install your wiring and see which you like best, or wire for both and use them interchangably.

Wood....I found out my 6412 didn't like repeaters when all I got was a flashing green to black to green screen on my Philips plasma.....I'm currently running component from my DVD to theTV, and HDMI from the 6412 to the TV...no video thru the 2600(kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?)....would I be better off to run both DVD and 6412 into 2600 via component, then out thru HDMI to the TV?...that way I could let the 2600 do the switching and upconvert the component to 1080i?.....this makes sense to me and I don't know why I haven't done it before....I guess there's so many options, I haven't thought them all thru...your opinion would be appreciated....John

Does this include OSD of changes made during normal use [not GUI-setup] ?
For example, does it show OSD when I change volume and stuff like that ?

My current reciever will not show this via HDMI to my Z4 PJ, and it's a pain in the a**.

What needs to be understood is that the whole point of HDMI, I mean the reason they invented it was so that you COULDN"T do anything to the signal. This is how they feel they can prevent unauthorized copying. HDMI is only and always pass through when it is two HDMI devices hooked up together. By using component you are allowed to add that OSD you are looking for. Not (alas) through HDMI.

Dos centavos por usted!

Well - my source is not HDMI - only from the receiver to PJ it's HDMI.
So OSD [e.g volume up/down] will be displayed when using RX-V2600,right ?

I have been unable to get volume changes onscreen with any output from the 2600, but I haven't specifically fiddled with it yet to find out why.



John,
I'd try both ways and see which does a better job. Depending on the scaler in your display, the 2600 may look better. Besides, you'll have the convenience of video and audio switching for each source with only one remote command, which makes programming simpler and is likely more reliable. Of course, if the video doesn't look as good, that trumps simple set-up, in my opinion.