Official Yamaha RX-V1600 & 2600 thread - Page 54

Donald,
I also have the 2600 and have been loving it. I am swithcing between a DVD, a VCR, and 3 Tivos with various mixes of format between them all connected via HDMI to my HP DLP. Due to the amount and complication of my devices, the solution I went with is to get a good universal remote the MX-850. This remote, not only had the codes for my individual devices, but it could learn anything that it didn't know and I could set up macros that did a variety of functions with a signle button press. Another nice thing about the remote is that it has all fo the discrete codes for the Yamaha reciever (as well as my HP TV) so a lot of function can be done in one button press rather than the same button multiple times (like mute, power, and DSP modes). Hope that helps ya, and enjoy.

Sweet T, where are you at? I am in the Tampa, FL area and was told in no uncertain terms by a Sound Advice salesman that HIS RX-V2600 passed HDMI just fine from his 8300. I won't able to check this for about a month, but it sounds like "some" areas of the country have fixed the issue. Anyone from Land O' Lakes on Brighthouse Networks care to confirm this combo working?

I'm in Wilmington, NC.

The 8300's they brought me were straight out of the plastic new, so that may have something to do with the problem being "fixed."

I'll be sure to *demand* a brand new unit (:P) Hopefully the long line behind me will prompt them to just gimme what I ask for.

I'm struggling a bit with the setup for my new 2600 receiver. I'm trying to find a way to set a different default soundfield for each input (e.g., 7ch stereo for CD, THX Ultra2 Cinema for DVD, etc). I can't tell from either the setup menu or the manual if each iniput has the ability to remember its own soundfield settings or not. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thx.

/steve

http://www.audioholics.com/news/pres...00receiver.php

I had the same problem until I went to the audio setup menu on my DVD player and changed it from "PCM" to "Bitstream."

Wow....glad I check this thread everyonce in awhile. Just finished my HT last month. Have been following the problems associated with the 2600 and HDMI switching using cable set top boxes, specifically TWC SA8300HD. Never even tried using HDMI with my box, just immediately hooked it up to the 2600 using component cables because of the problems reported in this thread.

Read this post today and the ones that followed. Thought hmmmm....when I picked up my 8300HD last month from TWC here in Cincinnati, Ohio, mine was "new" in a plastic bag also. Figured I would give it a try. Turned off all power to receiver and SA8300 and hooked it up via HDMI. It works!!!!! No HDCP errors. I switched between my Oppo and SA8300 (both now connected via HDMI) over and over and no problems. Yeehaw!!

So anybody in the Cincinnati area, go back to TWC and request a "new" SA8300HD. They must have updated firmware in these boxes or something.

Does anyone know if there is any way to get the 2600 to show the OSD when using HDMI. I want it to show just like when you use component so that you see the volume and all the other tjings on your tv insted of just on the 2600 -display.

The RX-V2600 do show OSD over HDMI - I use it regulary as my PJ is only connected with a HDMI-cable.

I dont believe that you can, it will remember the last SF used on each source tho.

The way around this is to use a Universal Programmable Remote with the discrete codes - this is what I have done using the macros on my URC MX-850.

Well I can't. But just to clarify: I don't meen the setup menu that show when you press the "GUI TOP" button, I was thinking of that I can see the volume level on my tv when I change it when using component, but not when I connect my DVD or HTPC using HDMI from dvd to 2600.

Thx, djos. Do you (or anyone else?) know of a link to which discrete codes are available? There was one earlier in this thread, but it is broken.

If I try to "learn" from the Yammy remote, I am unable to zero in on THX Cinema, e.g., because the THX button is a toggle.

/steve

If your programmable remote can import .MXD files, pm me your email address and I'll email them to you.

I made someone else the same offer but they never took me up on it?

I just bought the 1600 receiver and am having nothing but problems trying to hook it up to an H20 DirecTV receiver and a 47-inch Westinghouse LCD HDTV. The HDMI output keeps giving me an error message, whether it is with the DirecTV receiver or Xbox 360. No sound at all from either device, and the picture goes out every few minutes. I'm pretty close to returning this thing. I bought it for the HDMI and if I can't get that to work, it's pretty much junk as far as I am concerned. If anyone has any suggested workarounds I'd love to try them, but I have to say I am pretty disappointed in this receiver.

you sure it's not the DirecTV receiver? If you can try connecting a component video cable, instead of HDMI. If you get good video then it's more than likely it's an issue with the DirectTV box (maybe a "repeater" problem, etc.,...).

NO you can't - they aren't allowed (HDMI specs) to touch the signal from a HDMI-input in any way. So they can't add the volumebar to be shown for a HDMI input. (But if you would have any other input, like component, that is upconverted to HDMI output then the volumebar will be shown.)

Haven't you notised what happes when you are using a HDMI input signal and press OSD (GUI) on. The source picture is removed and the OSD comes on Yamahas own background

This is probably a stupid question:

If the 2600 (or 1600) is hooked up to a projector via HDMI only, does it automatically upconvert ALL analog video that's connected to it?

Or, can I bypass the upconversion so that it becomes a switcher only? (in case I want the projector to handle scaling/upconversion).

Since I am having problems with the Xbox 360, which is hooked up via component video, I don't think it's the DirecTV receiver. I think the problem is the Yamaha receiver, specifically the way it handles HDMI out going to the television. In both cases, I will see a picture, but I get no sound and every few minutes, the picture sometimes goes out comes back a few seconds later.

While I know I may be able to get the thing running on component video, I also know I could buy a receiver for hundreds less that could do that. So the question becomes, why not return this thing if it does not work as advertised???

I think the problem is your TV. I have 1600, too. I do not have any problem w/ HDMI- HDMI connection to my panny TV

I may buy turbine engine from Westinghouse -, but not my TV.

This is my $0.02.

You may be right. I have heard that the HDMI port on these TVs is problematic, and that people who use HDMI to DVI converters and connect through that port have had better luck.

Unasked it would have been a stupid question


Yes you can - there are two settings to affect.

First you have to enable upconversion - then you can select output resolution.
This way by setting the output resolution the same as input you have what you asked for (I assume)

As I don't know the exact mechanics for upconversion I can't guarantee that scaling doesn't happen at all

Just to report back, I hooked up my receiver to my Westinghouse HDTV with a HDMI to DVI converter and it's working well. It looks like there is indeed a problem with the HDMI port on these Westinghouse TVs.

I am still having some problems with my Xbox 360 hookup though. I can't seem to run that through the receiver with the HDMI out without having video problems. I had to hook it up with component video, which works fine.

AV issues aside, the sound on this receiver is very nice. I am using the B speaker setup to power some speakers in my living and dining room that were already installed when I bought my house, and that works well.

I checked with the manual and I'm still not sure about one thing:

If I only have a HDMI connection to my projector, and with upconversion disabled, will an analog input into the receiver be sent out over HDMI?

Or, do I have to have an analog connection to the projector?

If upconversion is no - then no picture over HDMI cabel, just tested it to be sure.
(digibox - component - RX-V2600 - HDMI - PJ)

Can your PJ then automatically switch between sources, or will you have to change the input with another remote from PJ as well then? (Just a small nuisance, but still a...)

Good. So do you have your cable box (or SAT receiver) HDMI OUT connected to RX-V1600 HDMI INP as well?

Yeah.......you just really never know what you're gonna get until you try it, even though the manual has some specific configuration guidelines on do's and dont's (go through your RX-V1600 manually carefully, you'll see various statements in regards to proper HDMI connection configuration). All this multi-interface stuff (with HDMI) is still very new and there are just too many different combinations of devices out there. For the most part a clean HDMI "hand-shake" (Cable Receiver HDMI OUT->RX-V1600 HDMI INP->RX-V1600 HDMI OUT->HDTV HDMI INP) seems to function properly, and yield good video performance, universally. However, there are exceptions. You're not gonna get any better HDMI video performance with other brand receivers, I think the [new] Yamaha's have some of the best HDMI (v1.1) implementations out there.

I'm still not able to use my HDMI function because I'm experiencing the popular "repeater" problem with my Time Warner SA8300HD cable-box, so I'm stuck with component video (which looks very nice I must say). However, I'm gonna trade my current SA8300HD for a new one in the next few weeks and experiment with HDMI again. I've read a few accounts (on this forum) where some of the newer SA8300HD's issued are working good. We'll see.


Once again, what are you implying here? Are you connecting component video OUT from Xbox to RX-V1600 component video INP? Are you getting clean, functional, video through RX-V1600 HDMI OUT to HDTV DVI INP? or what?


yep! I'm using both RA-V1600 & RX-V2600 receivers, they have excellent audio capability (surround mode & stereo).

Thanks for taking the time to test it out, Jeje2. I guess I'll run a set of component cables to the PJ too.



I'm not sure as I am getting my pj delivered tomorrow.

Thanks, again!

The Xbox 360 can only be connected with component video; it does not have an HDMI port unfortunately.

So yes, I am putting the component video out from the 360 in the 1600, and then trying to use the 1600's HDMI out to connect to my TV.

But when I try to use the 1600's HDMI out to pass through my 360 signal I experience problems. I have gotten around it by connecting the Xbox 360 directly to my television. I am passing digital audio from the 360 to the 1600 with no problems, and it sounds great.

I did get the 360 to work at one point, but then it started acting up. I suspect it can be done, but I have to find a workaround. I think the problem is that the receiver cannot handle two video signals trying to use the HDMI function at the same time. Since the DIRECTV receiver is always on, it causes a problem.

On the HDMI to DVI converter, if you read the manual closely it seems to say that the receiver cannot handle a DVI to HDMI converter, not the other way around. In other words, I think the problem is trying to use a DVI-HDMI converter to connect a devide with a DVI output to the HDMI in ports on the receiver. At least, that's how I read it before buying this cable, and like I said, the cable is working...

Speaking of HDMI connections...
I am curious if anyone has experience connecting a HTPC (non-HDCP compliant running WinXP with a nVidia 5950 card) to a RX-v2600 via a DVI to HDMI cable to the HDMI in on the 2600 and out HDMI to a tv (60" SXRD XBR1 in my case). The 2600 manual states that DVI to HDMI will only pass where HDCP is enabled, but I wonder if this is true of all content (desktop, web etc) or just protected content? Basically will I be able to use my PC via HDMI thru the 2600 or not?

This is what I had been doing somewhat successfully for the past few weeks. My vid card is an onboard ATI Radeon 300, which I had DVI-->HDMI cabled to the 2600 and HDMI cabled to my Sam 5063. I had no problem with any content displaying -- desktop, IE browser, MCE05, live/recorded TV. The problem was every time I shut down or minimized an app with an overlay (MCE, TheaterTek, ZoomPlayer) I would be left with a black screen on the TV (this is if I were using an extended desktop for the TV; cloning the monitor & TV didn't exhibit this behavior).

My workaround would be to toggle inputs on the 2600, perhaps to re-establish the HDMI connection, but I'm not sure. That was irritating enough, but just recently I discovered that if I turned off my entire system using my Harmony remote and the input was on my HTPC, the secondary display (my TV) would become disabled, and I would inevitably have to futz with the settings in the ATI control panel upon re-start to get it up and running again.

Long story short, I've gone back to connecting the HTPC via DVI directly to the Sammy. I don't know if the trouble is with the 2600, HDMI, or my video card, but it all stopped being fun after a while.