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post #61 of 585
I finally got the Dell 50" delivered and hooked up Monday. I have it set it up using HDMI from the cable box and the picture is gorgeous on Hd and DVD material(connected with component cables). Regular 4:3 cable looks good but after viewing HD regular cable is not going to compare favorably in my opinion, looks like i will have to watch only HD material My only complaint and it is a small one is that the new Dell's zoom feature stretches the image a bit too much, the Dell's zoom feature fills up the screen but sometimes cuts off TV logos and any captioning at the bottom of the screen. For the others that have this TV are you watching standard 4:3 cable using Standard or Zoom mode? If I use standard mode will the grey bars on the side cause burn it? The black levels seem to be perfect and i would say they are just as good as the Panny from what i saw when i looked at the Panny in the stores.
post #62 of 585
snoop01
I am looking to purchase that 50" dell but will only be using it with ota input. have you had any experience with a ota view?
all other thoughts would be great, since there is no way we could see the TV in person.
post #63 of 585
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Originally Posted by davivers View Post

(Also, if you search the forum gallery under my user name, there should be pics of my projection theater still out there from when I originally built it. It's 4 years old but I still do my serious watching on the big screen.)

I am very happy with the unit so far....


Hey davivers, how does the DELL PDP compare to your front projection images, ie Mitsubishi HC3000 ? The same, except smaller? Or more vibrant?

Also, would burn-in occur if one watches 4:3 sources in non-wide mode (column mode with two black bars on the side)??
post #64 of 585
The Dell PQ is technically better than my projector, deeper blacks, better scaler, etc. but I think that is really because of the 4 years difference in technology. However, that said, there is nothing like watching a great movie on a 10' wide screen with big sound. If considering only DVD and HD the slightly better PQ on the plasma is not so much that it out weighs drama of the big screen. On SD interlaced video my projector's scaler has never been good enough for me to watch, but now with my plasma I find some SD very tolerable.

Also

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Originally Posted by thepolz View Post

have you had any experience with a ota view?

As I think I mentioned earlier, I think the OTA digital turner is excellent. Better PQ than when I tried the OTA tuners on two different Sat Recievers with builtin OTA running through the component inputs. Neither reciever has HDMI so I could not test if that improved things. I think we concluded earlier that anything coming off the Dell's tuners is probably using 8 bit processing, which originally concerned me and thought that might be causing some contouring that I was occasionally seeing. But like I said earlier, I do occasionally run across a program with a perfect picture and without contouring in the blacks so I don't think it is the Dell or the 8 bit processing.
post #65 of 585
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Originally Posted by snoop01 View Post

I finally got the Dell 50" delivered and hooked up Monday. I have it set it up using HDMI from the cable box and the picture is gorgeous on Hd and DVD material(connected with component cables). Regular 4:3 cable looks good but after viewing HD regular cable is not going to compare favorably in my opinion, looks like i will have to watch only HD material

Congrats snoop01 ! I too have found myself stuck in the HD channels only... everything else just seems
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Originally Posted by snoop01 View Post

My only complaint and it is a small one is that the new Dell's zoom feature stretches the image a bit too much, the Dell's zoom feature fills up the screen but sometimes cuts off TV logos and any captioning at the bottom of the screen. For the others that have this TV are you watching standard 4:3 cable using Standard or Zoom mode? If I use standard mode will the grey bars on the side cause burn it?....

I flip back a forth between them. I leave it with the side bars at times and zoom in sometimes cause I don't want to take a chance. Although, the more I watch it, the less paranoid I am about the "burn-in". I would say, break it in as described elsewhere here, and I don't think you will have a problem (but zoom from time to time... just in case )

Oh.. and send us pics !
post #66 of 585
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Originally Posted by RADIatiON View Post

Oh.. and send us pics !


Thanks for the info RADIatiON. Here are some pics of the Dell viewing HD American Choppers, not the best quality but it will give you an idea The TV stand is one from bestbuy

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post #67 of 585
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by snoop01 View Post

Thanks for the info RADIatiON. Here are some pics of the Dell viewing HD American Choppers, not the best quality but it will give you an idea The TV stand is one from bestbuy

Sweet ! I like that stand. Please PM with the link. I'd like to see if I could find one up here in the great white north.

I notice a little Xbox hidden away there but I don't see his older brother Still waiting for mine to show up... but I do have to finish the renovations first (it is taking so damn long) and then I can sit back and enjoy.
post #68 of 585
Curious guys.... What is the width of this TV without the speakers? Dimensions of the tv with the speakers is listed on the Dell site as 54.6" x 31.60" x 10.99"

thanks
GUI
post #69 of 585
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Originally Posted by GUIMAN View Post

Curious guys.... What is the width of this TV without the speakers? Dimensions of the tv with the speakers is listed on the Dell site as 54.6" x 31.60" x 10.99"

thanks
GUI


Here are the approx dimensions.

32" High (this includes the stand) x 48" Long (without speakers)
post #70 of 585
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by snoop01 View Post

Here are the approx dimensions.

32" High (this includes the stand) x 48" Long (without speakers)

and the dimensions without the stand are: 28.5" x 47.5"
post #71 of 585
Hey everyone, newbie here. I've enjoyed reading all the posts and have learned a lot. I had been looking at HD TV's for a while and, like everyone else, waiting for the price to come down. Then (darn the luck) my 32" Sony died. Time to pull the trigger.

Initially I was drawn to the 50" Dell because of my good experience with their computers. However, after reading some of the horror stories on the 42" plasma, and the complete lack of a track record on the 50", I ordered the 500U Panasonic from DTVCity instead. They said it would ship in 2 weeks or so, but 10 days go by and I find out they are now backordered until Feb '06. I cancelled that order yesterday.

Back to square one, I'm now reading on this thread that those of you who bought the W5001C are happy with it -- no evidence of any of the problems that beset the early versions of their 42" plasma. I guess no one has any regrets on buying the Dell? Would you recommend it to your friends -- or better yet -- to me?
post #72 of 585
Just got mine today!!! This one's a keeper. I've tried a few others first (LG, Pioneer, etc.) and this one takes the cake. Had a 3 day ship delay from Dell, no reason given probably back-ordered. They used FSPshipping, who I'm not too impressed with. Had a mix up with the address and then they cop an attitude with me for something that's there fault! (Shipped from Tennesse). Anyway, it's here and ALL good!

One thing that really displeased me about the other plasmas, is the speaker sound. This one blows them away! It's not tingy, but has full, deep bass and clear trebles. Very surprised with how well the sound is. Picture is wonderful. Very comparable to the Panny. Does standard definition way better than any other I've seen. And it actually has picture depth. (I was getting a little dizzy when sitting close).

Only complaints are pretty similar to the others here. The remote is weak, need to point directly and not very far away. (But I've got my MX-850 that takes care of that problem!) And the set up of the picture settings was tedious. I didn't care for any of the preset picture settings they had.

Very happy with the purchase. I recommend this to anyone who is on the plasma-goose-chase like I was. And the price is even better now than it was when I got it a week ago!
post #73 of 585
For those that have purchased the W5001C - how reflective is the screen material? I'm considering purchasing one of these to go in the family room of my new house, and it has huge windows. Will the Dell Plasma be viewable under these conditions, or should I be considering FP LCD or LCD/SXRD RPTV?

Thanks!

Sean.
post #74 of 585
It is regular glass, it is not matte. I have it in a room with almost a full wall of south glass, and the clearstory has no shades above 8' so sometimes direct sun can fall on the glass. I had previously a 32" Sony CRT in the room and could not see it at all on a sunny afternoon. The plasma is very watchable on bright sunny days with the bightness set only to 39%. However when the sun actually hits the screen directly it is difficult to see.
post #75 of 585
Happy to see that you also like your new set spascat!!! I ordered mine today and should be here in about 10 days or so Actually the sales guy told me that they're in a 3 day turnaround timeframe for this unit as we speak. Can't wait. This thread was really helpful especially that I could not see it before buying. I made sure to have the 30 day full money back warranty in case I don't like it.......but something tells me I won't have to use it.... Time will tell!

Cheers!
post #76 of 585
greetings, this being my first post I would like to thank all the members for their keen observations. I thought purchasing a new tv would be an easy task.......but no..I had to stumble upon the avs forum. after several visits to the big block stores the only sure thing was that our next tv was to be a 50" plasma. over 100+ hrs digesting the wisdom of this forum, probably another 1/2 of that in the stores, I along wy/ my wife have concluded our search to the dell w5001c. the dell has all the features that we required. only exception that i had was the lack of the cablecard feature however, i have yet to see any positive response about the card only hassles. warranty was my wifes worry......but costco's return policy quickly erased her fear. although it comes with a 2 yr dell warranty, i believe more in costco. also free delv was a plus.............but now costco adds a price drop on the w5001c..............hunting game over........a new dell w5001c on the way................thanks all
post #77 of 585
Does anyone know if the W5001C has 3:2 pulldown? I don't see it listed in any of the specs, but maybe I'm missing something.
post #78 of 585
I believe 3:2 pulldown is part of the DNX by Pixelworks.
post #79 of 585
hardd1

I would be interested your thoughts once you get the tv set up...i'm still in this mind craze of looking for the best 50" for the money.
post #80 of 585
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Originally Posted by RADIatiON View Post

I have some more pics. Sorry they aren't any better. Having a real tough time keeping the camera steady and it's too dark now to take pics without the flash... but some of you might like it.

Heya RADIatiON,

I've been meaning (meeeeeening? ) to ask, how did you setup the main Meedio icons you're using? Did you download them from somewhere else? If so, please let me know! I've been using the Hauclo (or whatever they're called) photo icons and want a change.
post #81 of 585
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Originally Posted by thepolz View Post

hardd1

I would be interested your thoughts once you get the tv set up...i'm still in this mind craze of looking for the best 50" for the money.

okie dokie.......i will give my opinion when the unit arrives.................now, another hunt for a stand that meets my wifes picky criteria...oh yeah,...back to the big box stores....yippee
post #82 of 585
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Originally Posted by richlux View Post

I believe 3:2 pulldown is part of the DNX by Pixelworks.


I have seen this term before, what exactly is a 3:2 pulldown?
post #83 of 585
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by snoop01 View Post

I have seen this term before, what exactly is a 3:2 pulldown?

Hey snoop01... here is a really good explination of it. (I actually just googled "what is 3:2 pulldown" and it came up with some great links).

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Originally Posted by E39 View Post

Heya RADIatiON,

I've been meaning (meeeeeening? ) to ask, how did you setup the main Meedio icons you're using? Did you download them from somewhere else? If so, please let me know! I've been using the Hauclo (or whatever they're called) photo icons and want a change.

Those are the "threedee" icons that were referenced within the HDeeTV theme FAQ. You should be able to find them in this thread on the Meedio site.

And to spascat, GUIMAN and hardd1... welcome to the club! Official membership cards and the club "high-sign" to identify members from the regular riff-raft will be sent to you shortly. (ok... before you check your mailboxes... that was a joke... not the "welcome to the club"... that was legit... the other thing... oh never mind).
post #84 of 585
I couldn't resist...

the features and pricepoint on this set made me pull the trigger...Extended warranty courtesy of my gold card, and a business contact at Dell that treats me like a king since I work for a major customer of his...

Even a base Panny 50...8UK was 10% more...and that was without the HDMI inputs (another 10% more) and the other conectivity options....

Compared to consumer offerings the W5001C was 20-30% less with the current promotion Dell Canada is running....huge price drop and free shipping...

For the other Canadians...how long did delivery take for you?? I was told 3-5 business days plus up to another 3 days for the border?
post #85 of 585
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Originally Posted by CPersyn View Post

I couldn't resist...

the features and pricepoint on this set made me pull the trigger...Extended warranty courtesy of my gold card, and a business contact at Dell that treats me like a king since I work for a major customer of his...

Even a base Panny 50...8UK was 10% more...and that was without the HDMI inputs (another 10% more) and the other conectivity options....

Compared to consumer offerings the W5001C was 20-30% less with the current promotion Dell Canada is running....huge price drop and free shipping...

For the other Canadians...how long did delivery take for you?? I was told 3-5 business days plus up to another 3 days for the border?

Features and pricepoint do not add up to PQ.
post #86 of 585
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Originally Posted by CPersyn View Post

For the other Canadians...how long did delivery take for you?? I was told 3-5 business days plus up to another 3 days for the border?

It took just less than two weeks to get to this side of Canada.
post #87 of 585
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr View Post

Features and pricepoint do not add up to PQ.

Can you tell us what problems you had with the picture quality of the fifty inch model?

While you are at it, it would be super if you could tell us the source, connection and video material you were using.
post #88 of 585
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Originally Posted by RADIatiON View Post

Those are the "threedee" icons that were referenced within the HDeeTV theme FAQ. You should be able to find them in this thread on the Meedio site.

Thank you sir!
post #89 of 585
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr View Post

Features and pricepoint do not add up to PQ.

I have seen more people giving subjective positive reviews on the PQ of this set than subjective negative reviews...

come to think of it the only negative views were from people who had never seen this set or provided no information on where their negative comments were based from...

Sorry...that's not entirely true...I did see one person who didn't like the PQ after viewing the set on a couple of sources....but no information given about the setup of the set, if any tweaking was attempted, how long it had been on display and if it had already been monkeyed with etc....

You may also note, that features and pricepoint also don't add up to poor PQ necessarily either...
post #90 of 585
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Originally Posted by CPersyn View Post

I have seen more people giving subjective positive reviews on the PQ of this set than subjective negative reviews...

come to think of it the only negative views were from people who had never seen this set or provided no information on where their negative comments were based from...

Sorry...that's not entirely true...I did see one person who didn't like the PQ after viewing the set on a couple of sources....but no information given about the setup of the set, if any tweaking was attempted, how long it had been on display and if it had already been monkeyed with etc....

You may also note, that features and pricepoint also don't add up to poor PQ necessarily either...

Bottom line here... It does NOT say panasonic on the panel. I mean how can you expect fan boys to actually look at a non-panasonic panel?

On to a more serious matter...my question is anyone who actually owns this panel, please give me your most honest opinion about the PQ. I'm thinking of either getting this plasma or the 65" 1080p HP DLP since they're both in the same price range. TIA
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