Indigita AVHD IEEE 1394 Hard Disc Drive - Page 6

I reskimmed earlier posts and there was a note about these being for DCR ready sets. For those that had no success hooking straight to the TV, is your set DCR ready? I guess a similar question would go to those with older nonDCR sets ... did it work?

My hitachi predated cablecard by 1 year so my firewire is OTA programs only.

Has any body had any luck with the 2160 and a 45" Sharp? I have the LC45GX6U, and all I get is a no iLink device detected message. Power cycling has not helped.

according to your manual p60:

i. LINK devices that can be connected to this TV.
Only D-VHS decks can be connected to this System.


Now, this get's me back to one of my questions: are there 2 different communication protocols over firewire (dvhs and avhdd)?

My manual for my hitachi 51S700 just references devices with "digital interface capability"

I'm thinking it should work, but then again ......

I may just have to jump in the deep end and check it out.

My Mits 62725 will NOT record to this drive from cable..box recoreds for about 2 seconds then quits. Recording OTA works just fine..

bdfox18doe: quickly take it to someone that has the same hitachi model as I do (*S700) and see if it works

I should e-mail cajun4x4 earlier in the thread and ask him to bring his over to test, as he's also in Houston

to those who bought from hdtoystore, has anyone tried to return an item? I can't find any info on them at all regarding merchant ratings etc. (except for some ebay feedback).

I don't expect a problem ordering an item just returning it if it doesn't work out.

thanks

They use the same AVC (Audio/Video control) protocol. Some devices also may have Havi protocol but it is fully compatible with AVC devices.

It works fine with my Sharp. Try another cable. It could also be that either TV or the drive is defective. Do you have any other firewire devices that work?.

Interesting... I doubt the problem is with the actual control from the TV. I bet it may be because you are getting multiple subchannels over the link rather than a single channel. I wonder if the drive is expecting only one demuxed channel and then applying the 5c decoding. If so, it will trip up if it is getting more than one subchannel as may be the case since the set is not demuxing the subchannel and sending out the whole stream.

MitsuHelp said he would get his drive today and he also has an older Mits. DLP... I wonder how he is doing with it...

Well, good thing the experiment was free. The Firebus application installed without a glitch, but that was the only thing that went well. After install and reboot, I attached to my TV but nothing was detected on the bus. It turns out that the Firebus service, which is set to Automatic, was failing to start, so doing a manual start solved it, and the TV detected it properly as an AVDisk. The app would be ideal, if there were just a work-around to the following:

- BSOD every time the Content Manager app is launched
- PC locking up hard every time you kick off a recording to the Firebus AVDisk
- Inability to record to my TV's integrated AVDisk with the Firebus attached, resulting in an "inoperable" message for the integrated unit
- Inability to now delete the resultant zero-byte file on the integrated AVDisk, even after getting it addressable again by removing the PC from the bus, and cycling the TV.

NOT WELL.Mitsubishi is a real disappointment!

Got the DVR2160, records great from STBjust like my DVHS. Tried to record direct cable through QAM tuner.BAMMits reboots. Obviously the 2160 is just like the DVHS, it does not want all of the additional subchannels. The manual for the 2160 does state that you can only record the subchannel that you are watching. The manual also says to CH+ CH- to choose the subchannel that you want to record. From my understanding, this subchannel selecting was through the 2160 as confirmed by the RCA\\Thompson people during my phone call several days ago. Realitythe CH+ CH- means to channel up and down in the recording menu on the Mits to select the subchannel that you want to record.
THUS BEING THE PROBLEM WITH MY MITSUBISHI.. you CAN NOT select a subchannel to record.you must record all subchannels that are under the major channel. In order to record all of the subchannels, you would need a device that permits such large data rate. How asinine! Who would want to record 5, 10, 20 channels at one time? I just want to record what I want to watch later! If these recording devices could handle the high data rate, I could purchase cases of DVHS tapes to record one show or install a NAS for the DVR to record one show! This is aggravating! I have been fighting this for over a year.and I hate having to rent a cable box to record something..too bad the QAM tuner in the Mits is not as good as the one in my SA3250 (STB)!

Sorry to go on about this but I just don't understand. The SA STB obviously does not push out all of the subchannels. When you watch a TV show through the QAM integrated tuner on the Mits, you do not see 5 different shows at one time..why do I have to find a recording device that will record 5 different shows at one time when I only want to record one?

UMDis your Mits the WD-52725? I downloaded the manual and in the recording menu it shows the channel to record and it shows the major channel - subchannel' whereas my menu will only show the major channel. I was thinking that the newer Mits that show the major channel - subchannel' would allow you to record only the subchannel that you wanted.not every subchannel under the major channel.

Looks like bdfox18doe is in the same boat. According to his manual, like yours UMD, the recording menu shows a subchannel to record (unlike my menu). I would have thought that your newer Mits would work since it looks like the recording menu is showing that it would only be passing the ONE subchannel..guess this is another misleading advertisement from Mitsubishi!

I wonder if there is an external HDTV tuner with QAM that works in this scenarioonly passing the subchannel that you want?

I have the Mits. 52725 and it behaves the same as yours. All channels go out the firewire port regardless of what the menus say. This has been proven... even if you record OTA, you will see the other subchannels that are there like the weather simulcasts and such that some stations put out.

Maybe I'll try and call Mitsubishi again as I do still have a case # pending with them about this issue... if nothing, I'll see what they have to say.

Also, what page in the manual are you referring to?

I believe page 55 (record list screen) & page 56 where it shows the recording menu....both show a 'major channel and the subchannel' (from what it looks like from the downloaded pdf and zoomed in....doesn't your record menu show a subchannel?)

Yes....call Mitsubishi... I did again last night. My case has been pending for over a year now and I now have a second repair place working on it (first gave up since Mitsubishi does not pay for all of their time and the repair place has to buy the parts upfront and they say that Mitsubishi is no help!)

I see what you are talking about... it is definitely there in the manual.

My case has also been pending for a year now. I will call and see what they say and keep you informed.

I am using a 4 pin to 6 pin firewire cable. The Sharp has a 4 pin connector. I don't have any other firewire devices to try. What Sharp do you have, and how recent is it?

I forgot to mention one thing. This DVR does work with my Mits great but it works just like my 2000u. The one thing that I can not get it to do (yet) is the timeshifting. In the manual you should be able to get to a menu page to set up timeshifting. I am unable to get to it. Anyone have any ideas?

Mitsubishi customer relation is closed today... I called them, but got the recording...

Anyhow, are you trying to time-shift OTA broadcasts?

From my call to Mitsubishi.... I should be hearing from a higher level person to complain to. Been searching several things on the net and trying to get names & emails for when I finally blow my top!

DVR2160....
According to the manual, if you check the third level of the DTV Link setup:
Select the third level if you want to continuously record (buffer) digital programs and autotune the TV to the DTVLink component by pressing most transport buttons. When the DVR is turned on, it begins recording digital channels. The continuous recording creates a temporary live-TV buffer by continuously recording a digital channel.


Notes from the second selection:
Pressing RECORD while you watch a digital program tunes the DTVLink device and begins recording. This lets you watch the program you're recording and use Instant Replay, Jump Ahead, and time-shifting while still recording the program.

I have not gone back to the setup of the Mits to see if I can change anything there that may allow the Mits to view the device as a different type of device (AVHDD).as opposed to a DVR or visa versa..

Can I just plug in any Firewire Hard Drive to my mits wd52525 and it will act like a dvr? I have read this elsewhere, but have not confirmed it. I don't want to be out a couple hundred bucks if this is not true.
Thanks

I can tell you absolutely positively that when I plugged my couple hundred buck firewire drive into my wd73927, the tv ignored it very thoroughly. On the other hand, when I plugged my $99 firewire DVR2160 drive in, it worked like a charm.

I got a DVR2160 today and connected it to my Mits 55613. It found it right away and I can record and playback. It did cause a TV reboot on the first try recording. The DVR was quite cold at the time and I had a reception glitch a few seconds into the recording. No cable here; the recording was from over the air. Two subsequent recordings went OK from the same channel. John

Mine arrived today: my hitachi integrated set doesn't even see it

I've rebooted and changed plugs around without success.

I'll check if Hitachi has a firmware update, otherwise this is a no go for me.

Anyone in Houston want it at my cost if I have no luck with Hitachi?

where is everyone finding this RCA DVR2160 for $99? The best i found was $129.

I have a mits 52525 with cable card. I just plug this into to the TV and the tv will manage it?

Thanks

Nevermind I just ordered mine from Beach audio for $500 NOT got it from hdstore. $99

I have the Mits 55513 which I think is basically the same as your Mits. My Mits reboots when ever I record OTA or cable through the QAM and the channel I want to record has several other subchannls. Seems from what others have stated is that the Mits pass all of the subchannels for the major channel that you are watching.not just the channel you want to record. We have confirmed this since you can record to a DVHS and upon playback, you can go through the guide on the DVHS and see and even switch to the other subchannels. UMD_Terp and myself have had trouble cases with Mitsubishi (for OVER a YEAR in my case) trying to get this resolved. In my case I have to use a STB to record channels that have multiple subchannels.

If you don't mind.try to confirm the rebooting for me. Try a channel that has only a few subchannels then one that has about 4 subchannels and see if the one with 4 causes the reboot. It could be that the total of the subchannels have a greater data rate than what the recorder will allow.The good thing about the 2160 is that it only records the channel that you want to record therefore saving HD space but you can only record the channels that have limited subchannels.


GTJR92..got my 2160 from hdtoystore.com for $99.try themthey are great! Ordered it on Thursday at about 2pm and got it the next day!

Thanks for the info I ordered mine from HDstore earlier. I will try what you asked once i get mine.
I have time warner cable so they could make a difference as to how they use sub channels.

Got TWC also....they squeeze every little bit into a channel as they can....let us know!

some more info on my Hitachi...

I called Hitachi to ask about a firmware upgrade, as I have version 1.05 for firewire control. They are up to 1.26, so maybe this upgrade will get the set to see the DVR. Hopefully they'll get the MMC upgrade/flash card to me soon.

So can you hook it up to your pc and pull Video files off it?
Thanks

No, u can't, what u see on XP is only1G size, which is some kinda header info of the disk.

If I had 2 rca 2160's could i daisy chain them would i then be able to record 2 shows at once? Or is it already possible to record 2 shows at once with just one 2160?
I just ordered mine and should get it monday so If it works i may get another one.