Anyone use Audioquest? Not for the "wires makes no difference camp".  

I work at Best buy as a in store tech ( in store tech for displays and electric and just about everything ) We have a magnolia and all of my gear has audioquest everywhere from diamondbacks to jaguars and cv-8 speaker wire with dbs . I believe a cable only gets so good then it just becomes BS , as long as it has decent geometery it will be just as good as any 10,000$ cable. I can see a difference between cheapy componet cables that came with my denon 3910 and the YIQ-5's i have , but i dont see a difference between my YIQ-5's and some acoustic research ones i have lying around. But sence i get a employee discount through the manufact.. i get them for very very cheap , so i just get them to know i have reference cables.

And just where did you hear this?

If you did not hear the exact same setup in the exact same room while blindly switching wires, your claims have no value

Copper is Copper, wire is wire

Did you happen to see the thread title??? Here is the relevant part:

Not for the "wires makes no difference camp".

John

John, someone can't post a thread titled "I bought Bose, congratulate me" and expect that to happen.

Davdev makes a good point - one that many people don't remember or understand. For the record, I believe that wires make a difference. They cost different amounts, and look different.

Not even a close comparison. The OP asked that those in the "wires make no difference camp" avoid crapping on his thread, so why not be considerate enough to honor his plainly stated request? Doesn't seem like that much to ask...

John

Mantis10 - There was an interesting article in S'phile in the last year by Art Dudley about the DBS cables. He didn't feel that there was a diffrence with or without the batteries. Did you compare them both ways?

John

So do you disagree that unless everything else was set up EXACTLY the same way his statements are inconclusive, to say the least?

As for the "relevent" part, I don't care. If someone makes a post claiming that something made a huge difference, he should be prepared to back it up. And again Copper is Copper

And again, I'm just wondering why the OP can't be extended a little common courtesy and have his question answered? Since you state "copper is copper", I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you are in the "wires makes no difference camp". What part of "Not for the wires makes no difference camp" don't you understand?

John

Did that. It was less fun and less satisfying than you might suspect.
http://stereophile.com/cables/804aq/index7.html

Kal

You might find the following articles in Audioholics of some interest.

http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/Audioquest.html

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...quest_DBS.html

Doesn't anyone question this?
Air is a dielectric...how do you prevent it from being charged by all these 'naked' outlets?

Hey Cal, Chu and Tony can't you see the OP only wanted people who would blindly follow his claims. Don't you know it's rude to disagree when he so clearly said that he only wanted people who agree with him to post here :) :) :)

my monster ref 2 interconnects already serviced me for 20+ years and i am not going to switch to audioquest

It is good to be serviced.

Depends on who is doing the servicing :)

just to show op that monster attract more attention than audioquest :-)

I would not pee on someones thread when politely asked not to. It is not polite.

I love AudioQuest, I have been using their cables for years. I am not going to make any wild claims other then I noticed a big difference in my audio and video when I switched from Rat Shack cables to AudioQuest. Can I prove it, no, it's just my opinion, based on my experience with my Home Theater. I wouldn't wire my Projector or Paradigm Reference speakers with anything else.

I have a friend that has an nice two channel setup, that loves the DBS cables and swears by them.

Redhouse

Though I tend to lean to the side that cables do matter, here's a thought for pondering:

If all characteristics of electronics are measurable, like Audioholics claims in their cable testing, then how do you account for widely accepted examples of things like soundstanging and imaging in speakers? I've never seen measurements to determine the existence or non-existance of those, but I've never seen anybody denying the differences in soundstaging and imaging between various speakers.

My intent really isn't to take a side, but I was listening to my Studio 20's tonight, and the question occurred to me. So, any answers?

thats because fr graphs, waterfall charts etc only tell you about macro dynamics while the subtle differences are in micro dynamics

quote from Arthur Salvatore:

"THE PROBLEMS WITH MEASUREMENTS

All audiophiles should at least once bring an accurate sound-level pressure gauge into their listening rooms. This is especially important for those music lovers who listen mainly to acoustical music; classical, jazz, folk etc., like me.

After an evening of listening to different music and observing the meter, most audiophiles are very surprised at how low the dB readings are on the gauge; usually between 60 to 85dB. It will on occasion go lower, and only for extremely brief instances will it ever rise above 90db.

Much more important than the pure numbers are the ultimate implications of all this. What do these surprisingly low dB numbers really mean for the on-going scientific and practical attempts of measuring a component's ability to reproduce music?

They are devastating, and here is why.

Let's start with a speaker of fairly high sensitivity, which is the trend these days and also what I recommend above. Let's say the sensitivity is 90dB/1 watt. This means that at an 80dB loudness level, this speaker is receiving a total of 1/10th of 1 watt of power from the amplifier.

This is the point where most audio magazines stop measuring, but this is the exact point where they really should begin "fine measuring", because the 80dB is only the peak/accumulated loudness at that moment. All the real, fine musical details and information; the harmonics, decays, sense of space, dynamic inflections etc. are still 20 to 30dB (or more) below the 80dB peak.

What does this all mean?

The truly unique and distinguishing musical information is being reproduced with only 1/10,000 of a watt or even less power!

At a softer 60dB loudness level, which is not that unusual, the power level of even 1 Millionth of one watt becomes important!

Which audio "tech/guru" or scientist measures what is happening in an amplifier from 100th to 1,000,000th of one watt?

The Answer: Not even one."



if there is no difference then why not use different cables (be it interconnects or speaker) to hook up your L and R channels and live with this setup for few months?

and how many advocate blind tests actually participated in one and choose their equipment after they have done the blind comparison tests?

That's a logic I've heard before too, but never heard explained quite as well as you did. It's the idea that the human ear is the most sensitive instrument known to man, and can sense and even make important differences beyond any normal attempts at measurement.

So I assume you believe cables do make a difference?