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post #511 of 635
Yes, it's hard to take CSI Miami seriously. I gave up trying. My wife and I watch it all the time. I try to keep my mouth shut when they do something that is so outrageous you wonder what universe the producers and writers live in. But it's all fun. Where else can you go to see beautiful people show up at crime scenes in high heels and designer clothes. Or DNA evidence analyzed quicker than you can order a burger at the local drive in.

So I use the show to test my ability to turn off my analytical mind and just enjoy the pretty pictures. It's a struggle but I'll keep trying.
post #512 of 635
I watch this show primarily for the eye candy, certainly one of the most colorful shows in HD.
post #513 of 635
I agree Rob, one of the most colorful shows on tv.. a great demo for anyone who is on the fence about getting an HDTV.. notice how all the streets are wet? on all the shows it gives more contrast to the color..
post #514 of 635
Monday's episode appeared to have extra camera filtering. Looked close to 16X9 SD here (NYC's WCBS-DT via TWC to a Panasonic TH-64VX100U 1080p plasma). Hope that's only shooting by one of two camera units and it'll return to crisp, deep-focus HD next week. Otherwise, it's goodbye CSI:Miami here. -- John
post #515 of 635
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Monday's episode appeared to have extra camera filtering. Looked close to 16X9 SD here (NYC's WCBS-DT via TWC to a Panasonic TH-64VX100H 1080p plasma). Hope that's only shooting by one of two camera units and it'll return to crisp, deep-focus HD next week. Otherwise, it's goodbye CSI:Miami here. -- John

I think I read somewhere that this season they're shooting 24p video instead of film. Can anyone confirm this?
post #516 of 635
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I think I read somewhere that this season they're shooting 24p video instead of film. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks for the reminder. Looks like that is the case, according to a Millimeter article last month:
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While producers on some shows contacted by millimeter deny that switching to digital was mandated, they do concede that digital acquisition is being suggested as part of the general cost-cutting discussion. Like Ghost Whisperer, CBS’ original CSI: Crime Scene Investigation and Fox’s 24 recently researched transitioning to digital camera systems for the upcoming season, but eventually opted to return as 35mm-acquired shows. The other two CSI programs (CSI: Miami and CSI: NY), however, have already switched—as have many Fox shows, with more on the way. The vast majority of new shows greenlit for the coming season by major broadcast or cable networks are starting life with digital cameras. A prominent exception, however, is HBO, which continues to prefer film acquisition for its programming.

Puzzling the switch to digital capture, if that's the cause, was that dramatic, though. Theoretically, by eliminating one transfer stage (telecine from film negatives, used for TV productions, to tape/hard drives/chips), the PQ could improve (one less MTF multiplier), even though film still offers superior contrast to digital-cinema and other video cameras. -- John
post #517 of 635
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Puzzling the switch to digital capture, if that's the cause, was that dramatic, though.

I saw the same issues that you mentioned. Like the Millimeter article points out, I know they switched to digital acquisition this season, but that would not seem to be the cause of what we're seeing other. Other shows have also switched and for the most part, the differences are minor. This looks more like they have become extremely aggressive in processing the image to achieve some kind of "look" -- in particular, they are removing all the detail from the faces. Did you take a look at Cheryl Ladd in last night's episode? Her face looked like it had been buffed clean with a belt sander. Same for some of the other characters, though not as severe.

There is some other stuff going on in there that it is difficult to pinpoint -- all I know for sure is, the image quality has gone downhill and there is something about the way it looks that is unsettling.
post #518 of 635
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Did you take a look at Cheryl Ladd in last night's episode? Her face looked like it had been buffed clean with a belt sander. Same for some of the other characters, though not as severe.

LOL. Yes, that's the first image that really caught my attention. Speculated it might have been some protect-the-aging-actress lunacy, but screwing up the PQ of the whole episode--other than stock Miami overflight scenes--is hard to believe. Also doesn't seem reasonable they're just learning the new equipment. -- John
post #519 of 635
I like that new CSI dude.
post #520 of 635
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Originally Posted by John Mason View Post

Speculated it might have been some protect-the-aging-actress lunacy, but screwing up the PQ of the whole episode--other than stock Miami overflight scenes--is hard to believe. Also doesn't seem reasonable they're just learning the new equipment. -- John

Yes, I'm sure this is all intentional. My wife told me she watched CSI:NY last night, and it had the same "problem." It will be interesting to compare this to CSI (the original), as they are sticking with 35mm film according to the Millimeter article.
post #521 of 635
^^^Bailed out of CSI:NY early this week, not wanting to sit through yet another serial-killer program. PQ, generally, didn't seem as bad as CSI: Miami (earlier above) in the part I caught. Planned on comparing the Vegas 35mm shoot with all-digital capture ( CSI NY, Miami), too, but due to conflicts this season I've been viewing CSI:Vegas a few days later on NYC TWC's network-shows HD VOD channel. Likely some PQ reduction there, too, but have only watched a few shows that way so it's not definite. -- John
post #522 of 635
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There is some other stuff going on in there that it is difficult to pinpoint -- all I know for sure is, the image quality has gone downhill and there is something about the way it looks that is unsettling.

I actually noticed this this weekend since we watched all 3 back to back. Miami was definitely the worst. However I did wish my grass looked that GREEN!
post #523 of 635
From Monday's (10/12) CSI:Miami it looked like they're not applying extreme filtering to all shows now that they're using digital-cinema cameras this season. Perhaps, as I speculated earlier above, this was just the alternate cinematography unit's approach. Faces, especially the CSI lab techs, now seem moderately fuzzed, but nothing like last week. -- John
post #524 of 635
Unlike an earlier over-blurred episode of CSI;Miami discussed above, CSI:NY last night (10/14) looked pretty good--relative to other HD shows at least. A September article in Millenium (link above) indicated both CSI:Miami and NY have switched to digital-camera capture while CSI:Vegas retains film capture. CSI:NY Wednesday seemed a little too dark for the frequent interior shots so I bumped the gamma setting on my plasma from 2.2 to 2.5, which helped. [Edit: Later, found that 2.0 seems best to lighten CSI NY's too dark scenes.] Now I've got separate cinema-mode memory settings for CSI Miami and the seemingly darker CSI:NY. -- John
post #525 of 635
nice sharp eppy last nite.. was the development at the end planned or did it surprise everyone else? PM me with your thoughts..
post #526 of 635
So the guy was trying to make it so when you pooped corn didn't come out like it currently does?
post #527 of 635
Yup, that was my understanding. I could be wrong.
post #528 of 635
The video is not as clean, smooth, sharp, and fluid as it was last year. The biggest negative I see is the large amount of Video Noise. It's very distracting!

The Video Noise looks like film grain with "Rabbies"!
post #529 of 635
Nobody posting reaction about Eric?
post #530 of 635
He'll be back.
post #531 of 635
Got to love some of these story plot lines. Almost get sillier every episode
Last night's episode:
Employee's life insurance policies listed the employer's company as the beneficiary, then the CEO and CFO murdered their employees to collect their life insurance policy money.
Ha. Maybe that has happened in real life.
post #532 of 635
Yes, it's not unusual for large companies to buy life insurance for critical employees.
post #533 of 635
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Yes, it's not unusual for large companies to buy life insurance for critical employees.

It might be unusual to kill them to get money from it.
post #534 of 635
Last night's episode, about a murdered census taker, seems a new low in fuzzy images. Remarkably soft pictures. Everything lacks HD detail, so that was my last episode after watching CSI:Miami from the beginning. It's a shame, after switching from 35mm to Red One digital-camera capture, they had to bring in so much filtering. -- John
post #535 of 635
2010 bump.
Tonight's episode. Hmm Calleigh Duquesne and Eric Delko in bed together
post #536 of 635
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2010 bump.
Tonight's episode. Hmm Calleigh Duquesne and Eric Delko in bed together

Yea, they have been hinting at this for a while now. I guess it was time to eliminate any doubts. Where do they go from here?

It was good to see Anthony Michael Hall as the bad guy. I hadn't seen him since he was in the "Dead Zone". Good actor.
post #537 of 635
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It was good to see Anthony Michael Hall as the bad guy. I hadn't seen him since he was in the "Dead Zone". Good actor.

Since others in this thread have pointed out the "deficiencies" of several actresses in the series, I thought I'd throw out how badly AMH has aged.

Art
post #538 of 635
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Since others in this thread have pointed out the "deficiencies" of several actresses in the series, I thought I'd throw out how badly AMH has aged.

Art

Yes, I guess its hard to avoid that slightly bloated look when you age. I know a little about that. I had been slim all my life. But once I hit 50, bam! Suddenly I have to hit the gym on a semi-regular basis just to maintain some semblance of my old self. I guess actors are too busy to devote that much time to the gym. That's when they decide to go into their next phase as "character" actors.
post #539 of 635
Good episode last night.
The 'subject matter' was all new it seemed like.
post #540 of 635
CBS moves "CSI: Miami" to Sundays at 10PM next season; the new "Hawaii 5-0" remake takes over Mondays at 10: http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/cbs-...0-11-schedule/
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