MASTER BURN-IN/BREAK-IN THREAD: ALL POSTS HERE ONLY! - Page 8  

You should have your set calibrated, not for just for burn-in, but so that you have the proper colors displayed.

Burn-in is a little overexaggerated. Here are the rules:

1.) Be careful during your first few hundred hours. Just like when you buy a new vehicle, the set needs to be run a little. It is most susceptible damage during it's initial few hours. So no static image and lots of varied viewing material.

2.) Avoid static images. This is true for most displays. It doesn't mean you can't pause a movie...it means don't abuse your set with hours and hours and hours of the same image. Common sense, if there is such a thing, should be applied.

3.) Vary your viewing material. Don't watch 2:35:1 DVDs or CNN for 100 hours straight. Run some DVD, some TV, some X-box, or whatever. Also, try to use the whole screen when watching TV.

4.) Don't panic if you see image retention. You can run an all white screen or simply changing your viewing material should clean it up. Image retention is temporary but is an indication that you aren't using your set properly.

5.) Get your set calibrated. High brightness and contrast settings not only cause image retention, it produces inaccurate colors.

No problem.

But try to watch a full screen as much as you can on the first couple hundred hours.


EDIT: Thanks agogley.

picture = white level
brightness = black level

My mistake obviously meant "contrast" Someone told me picture was this in another post. If its not contrast, does picture need to be turned down? Or would u only turn down the brightness.

turn down both. If you don't have yet something to proper calibrate(DVE or Avia disks), then put everything at "zero" until you proper calibrate it.

Does anyone know of any way to eliminate burn-in once it has occured or a way to perhaps balance out the rest of the phosphers so they are at the same level as the burn-in ones?

Also, does anyone have any recommendations for preventing future burn-in given my specific situation - which is that i am displaying a video that incorporates a still image for 7 hours a day, 6 days a week. i know that's a big no-no, but i have to do it.

Hi Michael,

Welcome to the forum. Please see the thread at the top of the page; the moderators want all burn-in stuff to go in that thread. Lots of answers in those posts!

Robin

I have a brand new Pioneer 5040 just installed today. We had an open house and were displaying a THX demo disc that was supposed to keep looping through material. Either my builder or wife (or someone at the open house) stopped the disc and a bright red image in the shape of a box with white letters stayed on the screen for possibly up to 6 hours. When I came home to play with it I put in a movie and in dark sequences I see this box with the writing. In your professional opinions is this permanent or will it go away. I swithched it from Dynamic to Standard which reduced the brightness and will change more settings tomorrow. Please help! I hope they didn't screw up a $7000 tv!

It should go away with more useage...6 hours is not a lot of time.

Went to CompUSA for some window shopping today and saw the Panasonic 42 HD consumer plasma model on display. First I noted that the color was way superior to all other plasma/LCD models. The Lion King DVD was on the menu section and when I pushed play, I noted that the menu images were burned in impressively.

Asked the staff people and they said that they have had the Lion King DVD in the player/TV for the last two to three weeks (I asked, not longer than that). They too noticed the burn in and did not seem to concerned about it.

And the people at CompUSA abusing a plasma relates to us how.....?

You'll get burn-in on any display type if you leave the same DVD menu on the screen for weeks at a time...

If you are planning on doing that, yes, I would steer clear of plasma. You can damage other display devices that way for far less money.

This does not relate to you or other members who do not "abuse" their plasmas. I just wanted to relate the impressive nature of the burn in. The menu was almost "etched" in to the screen......

I heard that if you turn it upside down and shake, it the screen will be cleared for more enjoyment.

Only if you have the model with the two knobs in the right and left lower corners.

Kal

Kal
I believe you can find plenty of knobs at CompUSA.

BruZZi
50" 7UY? Totally awesome!!!

Hey JMJ, long time no see.

It was about time to get the 50" .

I moved to another state at the end of July and the computer was not set up until today. Actually, I got a new computer in August and today it finally came out of the box! Sadly, it's not a dual-processor G5 Mac -- just another POS PC (but a little newer and a lot faster than the old POS).

I've been having a lot more sex lately, so maybe the damn computer needs to go back in the box.

I noticed a similar example of horrific burn-in in London at Paddington Station - they had plasmas for the train departure times and they didn't seem to have taken burn-in into consideration in the design of the software driving the displays. Yuck!

You can leave a static image on an LCD display until the bulb burns out, and when you still won't have any burn-in. You just have to deal with the higher cost, motion blur, and poorer brightness. There are trade-offs for all monitor types.

You can leave a static image on an LCD display until the bulb burns out, and when you still won't have any burn-in.

I've seen burn in on lcd computer monitors where I work.

What you probably have seen is image persistance/retention, rather than burn-in. This happens when an LCD is held in the same state for an extended period of time. However, unlike burn-in, where the phosphors have lost their phosphorescence and it's irreversible, 'exercising' the pixels on an LCD with dynamic images will eliminate the problem.

We had burn-in on our command center CRT monitors after only a few weeks. After a few months, it was to the point where the screens were unreadable at any resolution. We have since replaced them with LCD's, and after several months, we have no burn-in issues and can continue to display them at high resolution.

There have been a few reports about burn-in on LCD's by more than one person.

MarkRubin has/had it.
JuiceRocket has/had it.

I am curious though if the PDP at CompUSA was in "torch" mode as, in my experience, most of the B&M stores (CC, BB, Compusa, etc.) leave these units in torch mode so that they look bright on the sales floor.

FWIW, I have had my set for over 15 months and have played x-box halo on it for 5+ hours at a time...straight. I have not experienced any burn-in nor image retention. Then again I had my display pro calibrated and, IMHO, it was worth it.

YMMV.

Just my .02

That's possible. This display has been on 24/7 for probably 3 years. As it was rebooting the screen turned medium blue, the "burn in" was black underneath where the image was soon to appear (a 3"x4"box, only parts of the box showed this effect).

Interesting that Panasonic has a warning about watching in 4:3 mode for an extended period of time in SIX different places in their plasma manual. But it only takes a little common sense to prevent burn-in and make it a non issue.
Check out the Master Burn In Thread.

we at compusa got a memo about 8 months ago about turning down our tv's to appropriate ISF settings. i was shocked to see it but it mentioned something ab out ISF. anyway i already turned down my tv's to where they should be but i wouldn't be suprised if at other stores they didn't do the same.

I've had a rear projection HD CRT for 5 years. About 50% of time was used with Xbox and PS2. I've been fairly careful and had no burn in problems.

Can anyone shed some light on plasma burn in risk vs. CRT? Yesterday, I had the good fortune of getting to play a preview build of Halo 2 on a plasma which looked just awesome. yesterday and I'm struggling with the LCD vs. Plasma question for a 2nd TV that will be used extensively for gaming.

I own a Panasonic 50" 6UY and prefer plasma's picture to LCD. That said, if you can put up with the motion lag via LCD, I'd suggest going this route over plasma if you're going to use the display extensively for gaming or computing.

But can anyone give me a sense of relative burn in risk CRT vs. Plasma? Are plasmas more likely to burn-in than CRT?

Yes, but not by much (I'd estimate about a 10% - 15% greater risk).

However, take a look at one of the latest Panasonic 7UY threads. It seems that Panasonic has found a way to decrease the risk of burn-in to below that of a CRT display. That said, I'd still go LCD for extensive gaming or computer use with a display.