MASTER BURN-IN/BREAK-IN THREAD: ALL POSTS HERE ONLY! - Page 94  

Originally Posted by ju421019

Thanks - and im giving up on this dvd burn in deal since I think I am getting more paranoid through this process than i should. Now, I am started to think the dvd caused some sort of like horizontal line on the bottom of the screen after i let it run for about 18 hours straight. My wife thinks I am crazy and seeing things that are not there.

Thus, I've decided to give up on the dvd and just enjoy the set with low picture/brightness until 100 hours, at which time I will go by the settings recommended by plasma@@buyinguide.

Originally Posted by ju421019

I just got my Panasonic 42PX600U and first thing I did was try out Xbox 360, I noticed that there was some retention with Fight Night Round 3 game, so I stopped playing.

The retention has gone but I want to limit any further mishaps.

I calibrated using the guide on ******************* - but it seems like ppl are running this DVD during the break in period of 100 hours. After reading multiple threads and somewhat confused if brightness and contrast should be kept low or high during this period. I had it high for 1 hour but changed it to the following:

Picture Mode Standard
Picture -10
Brightness -10
Color -1
Tint -4
Sharpness -14
Color Temperature Warm


Anyone have any recommendations on if i should change this setting. Right now, its 2am EST, so i will let it run till the morning, and also while i go to work. If anyone can provide input if my settings should be changed during this 100 hour, please let me know.

Thanks!

FYI - the aspect I have is the default that came configured.

Originally Posted by Sammy345

hello, i am new to this forum and before i bought my plasma HDTV, i did all the research neccassary and the burn-in precautions i got the most info from was this thread

well here is my troubling story...

so i bought the Samsung 42 inch Plasma (HPS4253X)(at CC) on Feb.19 and this past friday i noticed the ugliest IR but what it was from surprised me, it is from the channel display our digital cable has(its IO digital cable from cablevision). Now this isnt the first IR i have had. On the top left side, i get it from watching soccer games, basically only the white letters stayed this goes away after about three hours of normal viewing however the same channel ,sometimes the channel shows its logo on the right side and i could watch the entire game(45 minutes per half) without any IR leaving behind on the right side

now coming back to the problem, most of the IR from the channel display went away except the area where the diagonal buttons are shown is still there, you could only see it however when bright vivid colors are shown on the display(the diagonal buttons shown is white)

yesturday, i went to CC where i bought it to tell them about my image problem, they were very perplexed about it and told me just to bring it in sense i am still in the 30 day warrenty. i took it back to CC this morning but they didnt have any in stock as they arent carrying it anymore.

i havent called Samsung yet about this problem as the warrenty doesnt cover burn-ins however this is very strange, btw i kept the contrast and brightness at 60 and 50(out of 100) each and use super saving on the energy option.

also, i began to get this IR(on the top left corner) the next day i bought a hometheatre system which was a week after i bought the TV, i tried running the burn-in protection software which is installed with the TV(pixel shift is on and i ran signal shift on for an hour on friday) which worked for the logo when i first noticed it but left a faint image of the channel display(which there is no way of turning it off when changing channels unless you press exit the second the channel is turned). Now one of the CC salesmen told that my speakers might be the problem as i have the left and right speaker right next to the TV and center on top of the panel stand and today i uninstalled the speakers and i am using the TVs speakers for now as i muted them when i bought the sound system, i'll probably install the speakers on my wall

this is giving me a headache as i thought i was doing everything right, can anyone help me with this, i will call samsung about it tomarrow as today is sunday, any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks in advanced

Originally Posted by Arito

Hi,

I got my Pio 427XA yesterday and played a bit of Oblivion on my Xbox 360 with it today. I guess it was about 5 to 6 hours (I now realize that was pretty stupid). I thought I had my settings turned down, but apparently they were only turned down for the regular tv channels and not the alternate input channels (scart, hdmi, component). So, you guessed it, whenever there is no signal on my tv I can see some bars in the lower left corner and something in the bottom of the screen. I am 99% sure this is from the game I played today. I can only see it if I'm right on it, not when I'm a couple of feet away, and also not when there something else playing.

Does any one have enough information to determine if this is IR or burn-in? And either way, is there something I could do about it?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by BTex68

I just got a TH-42px60u and noticed some burn in tonight after playing video games. One screen was left on for 25 minutes when I got a drink and is most visible. The way I noticed it was when I cut the signal to the TV but left the TV on. You could clearly see the writing and read it and see menus.
So i came here and started reading and watched the news at the same time. After 20 minutes of the news I cut the signal to the TV again and saw not only my game menus but just about every menu/banner the news broadcast during that 20 minutes. some only being up 5 minutes. The 'local 6' square in the left corner is clear as day.

I then started changing channels and one channel on my cable system is just gray and I could not see any burn in whatsoever.

I noticed some of the lettering fading already.(15 minutes later)
I can't see burn in when I'm watching something even if it is a very dark scene.

So my question, is cutting the signal to the tv but leaving the tv on a good way to check for burn in? Or is that image I see something else?
I noticed others have said they see burn in when they turn their cable box off, pretty much what I'm doing turning the selector on my receiver. And I was curious if that is actually 'burn in'.

PS:My Dell lcd computer monitor has burn in of a 'lego star wars screensaver', of all things, that you can see faintly when looking at a dark picture or something dark. It's been there nearly a year since I turned that darn screensaver off. That seems different from the burn in I'm seeing on the panasonic which led me to my above question.

Originally Posted by StinDaWg

Replace every time you said "burn in" with "image retention" and that's a start.

Originally Posted by LithiumKid

Everybody keeps saying that Burn in is not a problem with newer plasma's but I can't seem to get rid of my IR/Burn. I have over 1000 hrs on the set, I have followed breakin settings from day one, watching everything in strech to fill the screen. I watched the NHL all star game about 4 months ago and I now have a TSNHD logo on the bottom right of my screen. Nothing I do seems to help it. People say it will eventually go away, but eventually could be a long time. I can't believe that it's so fragile. It's a Pioneer PDP4270 and nothing I do seems to help it.

Does anyone have any ideas or recomendations on a fix/repair.

Becuase it's a bummer I can't use my set without worry.

Originally Posted by BTex68

I just got a TH-42px60u and noticed some burn in tonight after playing video games. One screen was left on for 25 minutes when I got a drink and is most visible. The way I noticed it was when I cut the signal to the TV but left the TV on. You could clearly see the writing and read it and see menus.
So i came here and started reading and watched the news at the same time. After 20 minutes of the news I cut the signal to the TV again and saw not only my game menus but just about every menu/banner the news broadcast during that 20 minutes. some only being up 5 minutes. The 'local 6' square in the left corner is clear as day.

I then started changing channels and one channel on my cable system is just gray and I could not see any burn in whatsoever.

I noticed some of the lettering fading already.(15 minutes later)
I can't see burn in when I'm watching something even if it is a very dark scene.

So my question, is cutting the signal to the tv but leaving the tv on a good way to check for burn in? Or is that image I see something else?
I noticed others have said they see burn in when they turn their cable box off, pretty much what I'm doing turning the selector on my receiver. And I was curious if that is actually 'burn in'.

PS:My Dell lcd computer monitor has burn in of a 'lego star wars screensaver', of all things, that you can see faintly when looking at a dark picture or something dark. It's been there nearly a year since I turned that darn screensaver off. That seems different from the burn in I'm seeing on the panasonic which led me to my above question.

Originally Posted by nyboy42

I HAVE THE SAME EXACT TV AND AFTER PLAYING UNO ON XBOX 360 for an HOUR, i shut off my xbox and noticed how the UNO screen still remanined on the tv. How can we tell if this is just JUST IR or burn-in. I went to bed and 8 hrs later turned on the tv without a signal and noticed that the UNO image was still there. Should I be concerned that this is burn-in or is it just IR?

Originally Posted by Kr8z1

Play other moving content on your tv and see if it disappears after an hour or two or as long as it takes. It should go away. With the tv off it will not excite the phosphors so any IR will not disappear.

Originally Posted by WilliamR

I have a newer Pioneer too. Didn't follow break in settings to much. No IR/Burn in. I play video games for hours (the same game for hours). No IR/Burn in. We watch movies, some widescreen with bars, we watch 2 hour shows with a logo. No IR/Burn in.

What I am saying this for is that it is a lot harder to get IR on these newer plasma sets. How long did you watch the NHL game? Was it near the beginning of the set when it was new?

Originally Posted by Kr8z1

Amen!

Burn-in potential has been reduced so low by manufacturers that the word "burn-in" should be archived and no longer used. Only thing I can think of that should be able to use the word are companies, corporations, tv stations, airports, etc that keep the same image on the screen forever! People watching tv, playing video games, and using the PC on their tvs are not experiencing burn-in but instead image retention which will go away.

Image Retention - will go away over time
Burn In - will never go away and is very rare - unless you own a tv station or an airport

Originally Posted by LithiumKid

I watched the all star game ( around 3 hours ) but was flipping channels in between breaks, so nothing was on there for a really long period. I was following break in settings.

I don't get it. I'm really dissipointed. I have had iceage playing for 15hrs straight and no change.

Originally Posted by LithiumKid

I watched the all star game ( around 3 hours ) but was flipping channels in between breaks, so nothing was on there for a really long period. I was following break in settings.

I don't get it. I'm really dissipointed. I have had iceage playing for 15hrs straight and no change.

Originally Posted by WilliamR

3 Hours straight of one, bright image, on a non-broke in Plasma is probably what did it. Flipping the channel on commercials didn't help. Those cells where charged with that color for a long time, it would take at least that amount of time or more on a different channel to counter the effects. Going to another channel on commercial didn't help or didn't give those cells enough time to change. If the set was broke in for awhile, 3 hours wouldn't be a problem, but if this was in the beginning that is what did it.

Originally Posted by LithiumKid

I can't believe that the TV would respond like that. All the settings were at break in levels and nothing else was changed. So is their any way of reparing it. I have heard many people place a static white image on the screen made in photoshop or a draw program and burn that image into the display.
I really don't want to do that But if that is what I have to do to remove the TSNHD image from my screen, then I will do so.

Any recomendations???