MASTER BURN-IN/BREAK-IN THREAD: ALL POSTS HERE ONLY! - Page 96  

Originally Posted by JonDeutsch

Well, that's a good idea StinDaWg. However, retail prices for the new Panny 58" units are going to be astronomical vs. online. That's the rub.

Otherwise, you're right, the best thing to do is to try it myself to see how really bad it is for my usage. But, I don't think that's going to be practical because retailers have a 15% restocking fee and they're crazy-expensive near me.

For instance, the 58600U is sold retail here for $3900 while I can get it online for $2700. That's quite a difference -- and I want the new 1080p plasmas. Can you imagine how much they'll be retail?

Originally Posted by Cowgirlinthesand

There is a simple answer here that many miss; just buy the set at retail for whatever they charge and use it for 29 days. if you have any problems it goes back. if you DON'T have any problems, it goes back anyway and THEN you buy it from an online retailer at reduced cost. Obviously you need a retailer with no restocking fees and unconditional return policy (like BB or CC).

Originally Posted by terminatorbob

ive had my 42" 9uk model for almost two weeks now. Ive played several games, but no more than an hour at a time, probably more like 30 to 40 minutes. I have been very careful about what is on the screen.

I did however watch de'javu with the black bars on the top and bottom last night. After watching the movie I switched to an unused input. I did still see the black bars. But only for a few seconds. Once I changed to a normal channel for a few minutes they were completely gone.

This did freak me out a little bit though. So I will continue to exercise caution for a few more weeks. I think im only at about 50 hrs right now. I will always stay on the defensive side with the plasma but hopefully after a couple hundred hours I can relax a little bit more.

Originally Posted by bbonds

I've got over 2200 hours on my 600u and we also just watched Deja Vu and the black bars were still noticeable on my set as well. They don't last long but there doesn't seem to be much difference between 50 and 2200 hours...

Originally Posted by bbonds

..."this is why we don't watch black bars"
...and watched a few minutes of full screen material the lines went away.

Originally Posted by bbonds

sorry, my set is wall mounted and I sit about 10-12 feet away from a 50" screen. we watched the movie at night so the room was completely dark. My wife (who is electronically challenged) even noticed what I was explaining "this is why we don't watch black bars". the tv was on the input for the DVD player but I had turned the DVD player off, so it was a blank black screen. you could clearly see the difference in "black" between where the movie had been on the screen and the black bars. after I put the tv back on the stb input and watched a few minutes of full screen material the lines went away.

Originally Posted by Kr8z1

This is what I really don't understand. You (and others) don't want to watch material with black bars around it, even though you know the IR will go away.

Not trying to pick you out (you just happened to be the latest post I've seen here), and you may actually be ok with getting IR knowing it'll go away, but from the way you talk you are scared of IR....and it's not just you that is scared.

It really makes me wonder why people are so scared to watch movies, etc in it's given aspect ratio because they are so scared of getting IR!? Especially when there is an over-abundance of testimony here that it will go away.

Originally Posted by JonDeutsch

OK, I need to dig further. When you say that after a few minutes the lines went away... does that mean that for the first few minutes of watching normal TV that you saw a difference in brightness on the top and bottom of the screen? Or do you meant that if you went back to "black" you'd see them again?

I'm looking to see whether this IR phenomenon is something that is readily seen while watching content, or is it something that is technically there and easily seen but only when there is pure black or pure white being displayed.

Any additional info appreciated.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by tristanh72

This is a tough thread.

I keep leaning towards plasma for the picture quality, but my watching/viewing habits worry me. I'm buying a new TV after June 1st. Luckily, the first part of the thread that really worried me was apparently 4 years ago. :P

I'd like to play video games from time to time, such as Guitar hero, etc.

The NBA finals will be on during the 'break in' period, so I'm paranoid if I watch the whole game in that that period, it'll leave me with IR for quite some time.

Add to that a two year old who basically lives on Noggin and Disney when she watches TV (both have logos in the corner). I'm used to 'letterbox' watching with widescreen movies on my standard TV. Apparently that's an issue as well. (unless, the border is gone on a widescreen tv, I'll admit cluelessness on this)

I'm more than a little worried about it being a pain in the rear to go along with the much better picture.

Am I way off on this?

Originally Posted by jaxpdpguy

guys I just my PDP 5070...planning to watch in zoom mode with he dnice settings.....

also my programming for the time being will be SD from dish(using composite for now)....it might take some days fro HD programming .....

guys please advice....

Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky

Sheesh!!!!!!!!! Reading all these posts make me want to go and return the Panni 58PZ700U I just bought! You guys make it sound like for every hour I watch a TV or DVD movie, I should run the burn-in disc for 2-200 hours??? Just where in that time period do I get to ENJOY using it? So far as I know, there is no talk of breaking in in the manual, or on Panisonic's website (or Plasma Consierge) that I have seen so far.

This has almost become like the age old threads on how to break in a car's engine. In the old days, you HAD to go under a certain speed, and vary your speeds for from 500 - 1000 miles. Then you can drive it how you want. But then, there is the other side that say if you drive it like a granny, it will ALWAYS drive like a granny - but if you drive it like you stole it, you will have one killer of an engine. And of course, there is that brainwashing from Jiffy Lube - you MUST change your oil every 3000 miles - even if you run synthetic that is rated up to 15000 miles???

Well, looks like a call to the Panasonic Plasma Consierge team is in order to get the facts directly from the factory techs what is the scoop on this, or plan on returning it for the LCOS type, cause I don't care for DLP.

Originally Posted by ultrarobotninja

Dont go the LCOs way, been there, didnt like the silk screen effect

Originally Posted by ohwellwhatever

I can give a pretty good description of what you might expect. I work at an image licensing company (sort of like stock photography but we do much more). We have about 20 42" plasma displays, various brands and ages, the latest being Dell, about 6 months old. None have ever displayed the same image for more than a couple of minutes and every single one has burn-in. The three newest had it within 3 days. We have sworn never to buy plasma again and would not even have gotten those had they not been thrown in as a perk by Dell for a large order of servers and desktops. We are absolutely going LCD from here on out.

Originally Posted by Bada Bing

On a more basic note: I've ordered a Pioneer 4270 and want to do right by it. I read the opening page of this thread and the last two months of postings.

I get that I should dial down contrast and brightness and fill the display with various images for some number of hours on up to 1K or so. I don't find an answer to what this "break-in DVD is." Do you dowload it somewhere or buy it at BB?

Originally Posted by jn2006

so if u have a plasma tv, and u can get radio stations via ur hd receiver, shouild u stay away cuz of burn in? i notice that the lettering doesn't change....it's the same text w/ station name, channel, etc.

Originally Posted by samuel_adam

when i play this disc, does it matter if its running through HDMI or Component through my DVD player?

also, do i need to set anything when playing or does this disc loop itself?

i plan on using the DVD version of this

Originally Posted by Bada Bing

Thanks for the break-in tips, Jeff. I don't think my DVD player is set up to play SVCD--I wonder why the creator chose that format? Plus I have an Apple computer, so it looks like I'll need to fuss a bit with formats or look to other routines (unless anyone can't point to a recent post that solves all these challenges).

David

Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky

This has almost become like the age old threads on how to break in a car's engine. In the old days, you HAD to go under a certain speed, and vary your speeds for from 500 - 1000 miles. Then you can drive it how you want. But then, there is the other side that say if you drive it like a granny, it will ALWAYS drive like a granny - but if you drive it like you stole it, you will have one killer of an engine. And of course, there is that brainwashing from Jiffy Lube - you MUST change your oil every 3000 miles - even if you run synthetic that is rated up to 15000 miles???